Posted on 08/22/2012 3:20:19 PM PDT by shhrubbery!
Answer me this: When are they human? Is it at the moment the sperm dives into the ovum? Or is it some time later? If later, how much later?
By the way, I'm OK with repealing Roe v. Wade and letting the states deal with it, if that helps.
The unreasoned short answer to your question as stated, unfortunately, is "yes."
I consider myself pro-family, but I think the family starts about mid-term.
For you to find reason to giggle on this thread, especially considering the reaction you are getting from intelligent posters, labels you quite unaware. And that is being kind. Not to mention you finding humour in disrespect though you lament those being disrespectful to Akin. Maybe take a deep breath and read the replies to you.
Another key being that Akin was differentiating from statutory rape as the Doctor who advanced the theory in the first place did in his article. “Legitimate” was being used to mean a forcible rape, not a statutory one where Akin was making no such claim that a pregnancy would be less likely.
>present these facts to the American people next week at the Convention.
akin was uninvited to the convention. akin is a democrat plant and out to harm Republicans. Just like the sleepers trying to imply Republicans would force a rape victim or dying mother to carry to term.
Akin’s comments hurt the pro-Life cause ... immeasurably.
"Legitimate rape" = rape as defined by the law.
The words "law" and "legitimate" I believe both come from the same root (law from Old Norse "lagu," similar to Latin "leg-").
What is offensive about that?
Your hero Akin will make it harder for sidewalk abortion counselors to discuss choosing life with rape victims.
The reality is that a woman who may have chosen life... will instead keep her head down and walk into the abortion mill this weekend, because she doesn’t want to have to defend herself and try to explained she was ‘legitimately raped.’
Hells bells! Akin himself said that Ryan has called him and asked him to drop out. I’d say that’s a rebuke of the tallest order.
Huh?
The 16/17 year old with the 18/19 year old girlfriend/boyfriend, or the couple right in the middle of sex when the woman up and changes her mind?
How ironic. LOL.
And there we have the real reason for dumping Akin and demonizing him. It's not because he said something "insensitive," "repugnant" or "unscientific." It's because "a certain amount of abortion is OK and we don't want anyone rejecting the GOP because of these "extremists.""
I heard Akin’s idiot statement BEFORE the idiot Romney uttered one word, which I have yet to hear, since I don’t follow that slimebag.
Akin is finished. He will eventually drop out, so the sooner the better.
Well, why not? The GOP is already slobbering over homosexuals, having the Log Cabin Repubs be their "educators" on such issues and affirming "dignity and respect" for sodomites. Might as well jump on the abortion train, too, if it can get us a few votes. /s
*Precisely*
And btw, I did not say Akin was "my hero."
But definitely Ann Coulter, Sarah Palin, and Michelle Malkin are no longer my heroes.
Are you kidding me? In case you aren't, it's midterm--halfway between conception and birth. Maybe it should be 4 months, I'm open to convincing. Maybe it should be 5, based on outside the womb viability with support. But, when abortion is deemed necessary, especially when there's been rape (or incest) it should be early.
You do notice I refrained from using the terms insipid and vapid? I showed great restraint in honour of onyx. She leads by example always.
I actually posted this in another thread first. This is why:
This is the really real world. Its not all happy endings and sunshine when a rape victim carries a baby to term. A fragile psyche cant always withstand another 9 months of assault. People break. Also, please dont hand me a line that watching the product of violence grow inside of her isnt assault. Maybe some women will be able to compartmentalize the rape and separate it from the pregnancy, but everyone with a room temperature IQ knows that not every woman will be able to do so.
A marriage cant always survive a husband watching another mans baby grow in his wifes womb, even when it was forced upon her. In the same fashion, perhaps some men can, but we know for certain that not all men are capable.
A thirteen year olds life is no less at risk being impregnated so soon after becoming fertile because she didnt consent. Its just a fact of life that young girls become fertile before their bodies are fully developed. Immature skeletons with narrow pelvises, inabilities to create to enough red blood cells to handle the increased blood volume, inability of the immature venous system to handle increased flow creates PIH, etc etc.
No, as I told another poster. Well be keeping those exceptions to the pro-life platform for some time to come. Bear in mind that you really dont want those who are pro-life in the Reagan sense to be forced to choose between two extremes. Youll lose.
I don’t know why he would. He just did.
It is true that it is nowhere near the discussion they were having ... which makes the statement all the more stupid. He answered a question he wasn’t even asked.
SnakeDoc
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