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Huckabee digs in behind Akin
Politico ^ | // | Alexander Burns

Posted on 08/23/2012 11:55:47 AM PDT by TonyInOhio

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To: Just mythoughts

I acknowledge your perfection and you take it as an insult?

OK, you are better than perfect.

How’s that?


281 posted on 08/24/2012 5:13:18 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe; Sola Veritas; xzins; trisham
He has made me re-evaluate my lukewarm position on abortion in the case of rape. I have given lip service to the idea of prohibiting abortion in the case of rape, but the attack on Akin has caused me to seriously consider the issue and I am now firmly in the "no exceptions" camp on abortion.

Great post.

Years ago I was willing to go along with the rape exception, but the more I thought about it the more I realized that it was a completely unjustifiable position.

The children of criminals, no matter how they were conceived, are not criminals themselves. We consider barbaric those societies which both today and historically have punished entire families for the crime of one person.

282 posted on 08/24/2012 5:24:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wolfman23601

(Why? We are stuck with Akin so might as well try to win. If Romney and the other establishment types would learn to STFU, it would have been much easier to win and all this would have been forgotten by the time the hurricane is a few days out. It wasn’t the dems that turned this into a national circus.)

A good point indeed. Akin is a true conservative and has proven reliable but so many liberals rinos eat their own and throw conservatives under the bus whenever they can. It is why I lest the other liberal party to become an independent conservative.


283 posted on 08/24/2012 5:45:23 AM PDT by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God and Messiah of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: P-Marlowe

You seem entirely incapable of understanding how the political blunders this man has made will have reverberations.

I am not on television making stupid comments that
affect whether or not the prolife party wins the seat.
You can be very smug about how you have now seen the (obvious) philosophical incoherence of “rape” and “incest” allowing for abortion. That has been clear to me for 40 years. There is the little matter of persuding the many, who think very shallowly about these things to move in the direction of the truth, reducing as many abortions as possible, until, the whole reality of abortion is seen for what it is.
Now, however, the left has been handed a gift by the clod from Missouri who will stay in and lose. Oh, well, at least you have finally figured out that a child killed for the reason of “rape” is just as much a child as one killed for any other reason.


284 posted on 08/24/2012 6:40:29 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: TonyInOhio
I'm not a Huckabee fan but he is right and I will add to what he's said. The only reason the RNC and the rest of the establishment republicans (romney, palin, hannity, limbaugh, etc.) have called for Akin to step down is because they are freaking out. They are scared to death that real "Conservatives" like Akin, Cruz and others will actually succeed in winning enough seats in both houses to stop the hemorrhaging caused by morally deficient, anti-American, pro-globalist presidents like Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and now the enemy combatant from Kenya, Barack Hussein obama.
The policies of obama are, in many cases, no different than those romney has supported in the past. Oh... I know. romney is espousing different policies than his record actually shows he's supported in the past but the fact remains that romney's agenda is no different than obama's. (Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. I'm not fooled.)
The only way we can stop our nation from becoming a footnote in history books is if we can elect good, moral, principled Christian men and women to serve in both the House and Senate. Candidates like Akin, Cruz and others will turn romney's agenda on its head and make him a lamb duck or... if there are enough of them, force him to do the right thing.

My prayers, encouragement and support have been and will continue to be heading in Akin's way.
I would much rather have a Senator that occasionally misspeaks then repents and apologizes than have a bumbling fool for vice president that blurts out one asinine gaff after another and is too stupid to even know he is chewing on his own foot.

JMHO

285 posted on 08/24/2012 6:54:02 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Paul R.

Thanks. We will just agree to disagree. Akin can and will strike back. The GOP should stop attacking him and provide him the financial support he needs to fight back. He can still win this race. Romney and Ryan should have stayed out it, but their condemnation of Akin makes it just that more difficult to go forward. The Reps have just formed a circular firing squad and are only doing damage to themselves, not just Akin. It is any wonder the GOP is called the Stupid Party?


286 posted on 08/24/2012 7:03:21 AM PDT by kabar
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To: penelopesire
"Huckster is probably getting a payload of cash from Soros Inc. to fuel Akin’s delusions."

WTF? We're now evoking the name of soros? Why don't you call Akin Hitler or racist or..... Sheeeesh. There is almost no discernible difference between the rinos that are infesting this forum and the liberal assclowns in the 'mainstream' media.

Akin is a good, honorable, Christian, Conservative man. The only thing anyone has found to criticize him on is one little word in one little sentence and now you all are going to throw him out the window with the bath water?

Keep this stupid s*** up and obama will win again.

Anyone that loves Missouri and America will vote for him in November. PERIOD!

287 posted on 08/24/2012 7:07:24 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: Road Glide

Agreed. I'm anxious to see the next national poll, but only because I'm pretty confident I know what it will reflect. There's a lot of local reporting going on in Missouri not echoed on the national scene. Locally it appears Akin has kept the support of a number of grass roots organizations and local leaders. The time to forget about this and focus back on November rapidly approaches. Finally we have a conservative Republican in the race capable of taking a couple slings and arrows and show the rest what a spine looks like. I am impressed. I wish Herman Cain had emulated Todd Akin during the primary season.


288 posted on 08/24/2012 7:09:24 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
Candidates like Akin, Cruz and others will turn romney's agenda on its head and make him a lamb duck or... if there are enough of them, force him to do the right thing.

You do know that Huckabee endorsed Dewhurst in the Texas primary, not Ted Cruz, right?

In what way is a member of Congress like Akin,who served six terms and had the backing of the Missouri GOP for the Senate, not a part of the "GOP Establishment"?

Oh, and by the way, Akin is having a positive effect:

Rasmussen: Missouri - Obama 47 Romney 46

for Claire McCaskill and Barry Obama.

Akin is so caught up in his own "mission", encouraged by the Hucjabee and his followers, that he may wind up putting Obama back in the White House. That'll show the GOP Establishment, eh?

289 posted on 08/24/2012 7:13:26 AM PDT by TonyInOhio (Send Sherrod Brown packing - www.JoshMandel.com)
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To: Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
"Anyone that loves Missouri and America will vote for him in November."

That last sentence is supposed to read, "Anyone that loves Missouri and America will vote for Akin in November."

290 posted on 08/24/2012 7:13:36 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: P-Marlowe

Thank you Todd Akin for accidentally drawing so much attention to this issue. You may have screwed up, but God will use it for good. In my life I know he has.

In all the hub-bub going on defending Akin, I confess I did not consider how God might be using this unfortunate situation to educate us all. Yours is an insightful perspective. Thank you for sharing it.


291 posted on 08/24/2012 7:19:40 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: TonyInOhio
WWWTT - Candidates like Akin, Cruz and others will turn romney's agenda on its head and make him a lamb duck or... if there are enough of them, force him to do the right thing.

tonyinohio - You do know that Huckabee endorsed Dewhurst in the Texas primary, not Ted Cruz, right?

WWWTT - I do and if you read and understood my post you would know that I am not a Huckabee fan but that does not preclude him from being right from time to time.

tonyinohio - In what way is a member of Congress like Akin,who served six terms and had the backing of the Missouri GOP for the Senate, not a part of the "GOP Establishment"?

WWWTT - Romney is "GOP Establishment". He is pro-death, pro-obombacare (he authored it for crying out loud), pro-bigger government, etc. Akin is not and his "six terms" in the House supports this conclusion. If it didn't you would be attacking his record and not just one little word in one little sentence from one, not so well thought out, interview on some obscure little, dying cable network.

tonyinohio - Oh, and by the way, Akin is having a positive effect:

Rasmussen: Missouri - Obama 47 Romney 46

for Claire McCaskill and Barry Obama.

WWWTT - Of course the polls are reading this way. They don't want to be sued by obama's DOJ the way Gallop is being sued for not carrying the administration's water.
Is that why you are posting the poll results tonyinohio? Because you want to carry obama's water?

It's tough knowing what a real conservative is isn't it tony? You are surrounded by liberals up there and well.... being lukewarm is just easier eh?
Me... Well I'm of the mindset, like Akin is, that there is NO REASON to EVER murder a child and I too, like Akin, am tired of rino and liberal asshats throwing all their red herrings into the discussion (i.e. no abortions 'except' in the cases of rape, incest, life of the mother, etc.....)
It's all bullcrap and I, like Akin and other pro-lifers are sick of it. You want to endorse pro-deathers? That is your prerogative but don't drag us down with you.

tonyinohio - Akin is so caught up in his own "mission", encouraged by the Hucjabee and his followers, that he may wind up putting Obama back in the White House.

WWWTT - That's it tonyinohio... Live the coward's life. Be afraid of what a few little loudmouthed occupiers will say about you huh?
Shame on you. If Akin doesn't win it will be because people like you are so petty that you won't do the right thing and vote for the best person for the job. You would rather have someone that has a closet full of dead men's bones hidden from everyone's sight than a good, honorable man, whose entire life and his mistake are out in the open for the whole world to see. Why is that tonyinohio? Do you get a thrill from the hope that the clowns you support won't get caught?
Akin is a good, decent, principled man with a good conservative record.

tonyinohio - That'll show the GOP Establishment, eh?

WWWTT - The only way Akin will lose is if people like you don't grow a spine, learn to forgive and forget and end up casting your vote for a liberal.

If you lived in Missouri I'd ask you "what you are going to do" but since you don't I will simply laugh at you k? HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA H.....

292 posted on 08/24/2012 7:48:48 AM PDT by Whats-wrong-with-the-truth
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To: xzins; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; Finny; greyfoxx39; ...

Huckabee is not usually someone I support or Champion because of his lack of honesty about his own spotty record where limited Government and support of Illegals is concerned, however, in this instance, he is spot on.

The GOP has done their best this election cycle to move left, and try and lie about or obfuscate that move.

The end result of a possible Romney Presidency will be the loss of the GOP as a home for conservatives.

By supporting this turd of a candidate, at any level, we as conservatives have sold out the most precious of issues, especially from a Conservative perspective:

1. Abortion
2. The Gay Agenda


293 posted on 08/24/2012 8:27:33 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: xzins; Jim Robinson; P-Marlowe; wagglebee; cripplecreek; cva66snipe; Elvina; Finny; greyfoxx39; ...
Huckabee is not usually someone I support or Champion because of his lack of honesty about his own spotty record where limited Government and support of Illegals is concerned, however, in this instance, he is spot on.

The GOP has done their best this election cycle to move left, and try and lie about or obfuscate that move.

The end result of a possible Romney Presidency will be the loss of the GOP as a home for conservatives.

By supporting this turd of a candidate, at any level, we as conservatives have sold out the most precious of issues, especially from a Conservative Christian perspective:

1. Abortion
2. The Gay Agenda

294 posted on 08/24/2012 8:31:20 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: MachIV

“I figure Willard loses in November and even if he doesn’t, I suspect that in the end Obamacare will not be repealed. That’s really the bottomline for most conservatives in this election cycle.”

Yup. It’ll be like the balanced budget amendment in the 80’s and 90’s. It’ll become “just too difficult to do” once the gop is elected.

“I’m convinced the ballot box has become a worthless lost cause.”

Depends if you’re talking at the Federal or state and local level.


295 posted on 08/24/2012 8:31:40 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (WILLARD 2012 - It's not just a campaign, it's a conservative suicide pact!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Huckabee has blemishes like any politician, but I’d far rather have him heading the GOP ticket right now than Mitt. At least Huckabee has a years long record as a social conservative with fiscal conservative leanings. I’ll grant you that he was looking for some kind of green card program for illegals, but that’s better than Romney who just keeps hiding his position.

But Romney is out as pro-gun control, pro-homosexualism, pro-choice, pro-tax/revenue enhancement, pro-Romneycare, etc.

So, Akin, Huck, or Mitt. I could vote for the first two, but not ever for the last.


296 posted on 08/24/2012 8:32:12 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SoConPubbie
The GOP has done their best this election cycle to move left, and try and lie about or obfuscate that move.

The GOP with the help of weak kneed voters is headed for disaster and we know they'll blame conservatives for it. In fact I still don't believe the GOP really intends to win and are setting up the blame as we speak. If people want to vote for Romney, that's their business but they don't need to make it easy for the GOP to bowl them over.

Look at the deliberate blindness or outright excuses being made for Scott Brown and ever leftward drift.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2922343/posts

Again, if people want to vote for him fine, but don't make excuses for his bad behavior. Stand up.
297 posted on 08/24/2012 8:39:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: RKBA Democrat

It’s at all levels in my state.


298 posted on 08/24/2012 9:03:24 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: xzins
But Romney is out as pro-gun control, pro-homosexualism, pro-choice, pro-tax/revenue enhancement, pro-Romneycare, etc.

So, Akin, Huck, or Mitt. I could vote for the first two, but not ever for the last.


Huckabee was worse than you are seeing him xzins, not a limited-government bone in his body and a penchant, using his Christianity as the excuse, to try and implement overreaching laws enforcing his "brand" of Christianity.

However, even given that opinion of mine where Huckabee is concerned, I'd agree with your sentiment, Anybody but that lying, left-wing, Romney,.
299 posted on 08/24/2012 9:18:19 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency.)
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To: P-Marlowe
I acknowledge your perfection and you take it as an insult? OK, you are better than perfect. How’s that?

Matthew 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits.......

300 posted on 08/24/2012 10:11:41 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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