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If the Birther Issue Comes Up in Debate
American Thinker ^ | August 27, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 08/27/2012 12:59:06 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome

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To: null and void
Aye, but the two are closely linked.
They are closely linked.

Just trying to cut off the inevitable scurrilous charges at the pass.

141 posted on 08/27/2012 12:55:24 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: AppyPappy
Put down the bottle
How nice, insinuating I'm a drunk.

You said “ Both of his parents weren’t Citizens at the time of his birth. “
And? You said "His mother was an American."

142 posted on 08/27/2012 12:58:58 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

So one of them was a citizen.

What you mean was “One of his parents wasn’t a citizen”. Instead you said “both of them were not”.


143 posted on 08/27/2012 1:31:46 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: nickcarraway; mkjessup
c.) Romney's mother wasn't a whore.
Well, I hate to disappoint you, but I have great trouble with you saying that. As much as I disagree with Obama on almost everything, I think the fact that you say that reflects badly on YOUR CHARACTER, NOT HIS. Maybe your are just tired, but I'd recommend you reconsider it and apologize, because saying something like that about someone's mother is low-class and shameful.
BWAHAHAHAhahaha... That ain't squat compared to what the Rev. David Manning said said about 0bama's cheap white trash momma.

Search youtube for the good Reverend speaking about the "long legged mac-daddy" and his white-trash momma and his drunk worthless daddy.

I laughed until tears were running out of my eyes!

Manning is the polar opposite of the "reverend" G-d d-mn America Wright.
144 posted on 08/27/2012 1:40:09 PM PDT by Peet (Everything has an end -- only the sausage has two.)
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To: Ronin

Great post.

My only concern is that this can’t start and end during a debate. If so, Zippy can make all the promises he wants and then not deliver. That’s his M.O. Not going to change suddenly.

So if this happens, I think it needs to happen at the first debate, with a promise to produce before the second. You know he still won’t and if he produces anything it will be another forgery.

Romney needs a strategy to deal with any maneuvering that Zippy might try.

To those who say it’s a side issue and a distraction, I say that is precisely one of the (many) reasons it is a serious issue. Zippy allows it to be a distraction. One reason is that he can’t answer the charges. The other reason is that he can wave it to distract from other important issues and mock “birthers.” It’s well past time to shut that down.


145 posted on 08/27/2012 1:42:59 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: AppyPappy
What you mean was “One of his parents wasn’t a citizen”. Instead you said “both of them were not”.

I meant exactly what I said...

@Both of his parents weren't Citizens at the time of his birth.

146 posted on 08/27/2012 2:00:42 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
sI'm buying popcorn futures.

Out-of-the-money calls on Orville Redenbacher stock will be a good proxy.

147 posted on 08/27/2012 2:08:24 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: driftless2

“If there were proof about Obama being an alien, it would have been out by now”

It already is. His own bio. His own words.

Otherwise, he is part of the larger coup. As are all of Congress and the Judiciary involved. Even the state SOSes. And the media.

WE KNOW he’s a complete fraud.

History will slice us to ribbons over this.


148 posted on 08/27/2012 2:09:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

America ? You didn’t birth THAT !


149 posted on 08/27/2012 2:13:17 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: Peet; nickcarraway; mkjessup
...what the Rev. David Manning said said...

Here ya go...@Pastor Manning - says Barack Obama's Mother

He's right, nobody attacked him until...

150 posted on 08/27/2012 2:14:03 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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[sueQ] That vid has been out for awhile and has been totally discredited.

[mkj] Discredited by who?

Yes, since it's a video, please tell us, Sue, who "discredited" it, when, why, and how.

"It's been discredited totally" -- 'Rat mantra 2012.

Please answer the question, newbie.

151 posted on 08/27/2012 2:17:33 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: I cannot think of a name

Love it! You need to send that to the Romney campaign.


152 posted on 08/27/2012 2:29:38 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: philman_36

Manning is a talented speak, but that was not his finest moment.


153 posted on 08/27/2012 2:48:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
...that was not his finest moment.
Perhaps not, but it was direct to the point.
154 posted on 08/27/2012 2:53:46 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: generally

Agreed. But I am also confident that Romney has war-gamed this forward and backwards with every conceivable variation factored in. I certainly would, and I know that man is as least as smart as I am — undoubtedly more so because he’s rich and I’m not.

The thing is, and this is key, I was not exaggerating when I said this is the “total war” card. Once played, he absolutely has to win, and he has to be sure of winning.

As a smoking gun, the forged birth certificate is pretty much as good as it gets. The evidence will not change, the supporting evidence will not change. If Romney rubs America’s nose in it during a national debate and demands that Obama instruct the State of Hawaii to release any and all original records to the public for proper forensic scrutiny, Obama is toast. Period.

But this is also where America is in its greatest peril. It is clear that Obama hates America. He hates what has made America special. He hates what America has accomplished and what it might accomplish. He’s also lied and been facilitated in his lies for as long as he can remember.

What will he do if all those lies are torn away? He’s still the President and he still commands the executive department. At that point, he will have absolutely nothing to lose.

That final point, or a variation of it, is one of the reasons — maybe even the biggest reason — why no major named Republican has been willing to call Obama on it yet.

Chaos would probably result — and chaos, by definition, is unpredictable.


155 posted on 08/27/2012 2:56:30 PM PDT by Ronin (Dumb, dependent and Democrat is no way to go through life - Rep. L. Gohmert, Tex)
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To: mkjessup

Do you suppose that is all part of Zippy’s plan? We are all focused on the economy (important, yes), but few are paying attention to security issues. We have a carrier heading toward the Gulf, Europe is crumbling, and the Middle East is a bigger powder keg than ever.


156 posted on 08/27/2012 3:03:42 PM PDT by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: lentulusgracchus; mkjessup; DeaconRed; sueQ; Seizethecarp; Yosemitest; Fractal Trader; Plummz; ...
The video in question...here

The President Talks with Students in Turkey 33:12

Tophane Cultural Center Istanbul, Turkey
You know, in terms of my election, I think that what people felt good about was it affirmed the sense that America is still a land of opportunity. I was not born into wealth. I wasn't born into fame.
Background setting, audience members, transcript...

A spoof of his speech!

157 posted on 08/27/2012 3:14:28 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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No offense, folks, and not that I mind looking into this stuff, but if people actually took the time to look into this stuff on their own we wouldn’t be having these dust ups over trivialities.


158 posted on 08/27/2012 3:25:48 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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And on a personal note...my ears are bleeding from having to listen through that tripe to find the mark time for everyone. {;^)
159 posted on 08/27/2012 3:33:47 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: mkjessup; TheSarce; basil
a.) Romney indeed has never been asked for his birth certificate.

NOT TRUE!!! I have left messages on the "Romney official HQ recording machine" saying that he needs to show the Republicans his birth cert. at the Convention.

I do NOT want to vote again for anyone, nor allow a nominee that I haven't seen the Birth Certificate for the candidate.

Ever again, EVER!

It should be a Constitutional amendment like not allowing the President 4 terms... bad for the Country.

That mailbox has been full the last couple days... 857-288-3500

160 posted on 08/27/2012 3:48:17 PM PDT by The Bat Lady (Be an election worker to prevent voter fraud Nov 2012.)
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