Posted on 08/27/2012 5:14:33 AM PDT by marktwain
A study of guns seized by Chicago police shows that suburban gun shops are a main source of guns used in crimes in the city.
The research shows that some 29 percent of the guns recovered on Chicago's streets between 2008 and the end of March were bought in the Cook County suburbs. Lake County, Ind., was the second largest source, accounting for 6 percent of the weapons, and other counties surrounding Chicago — including Lake County, Ill., and Will, DuPage and Kane counties — were also among the top 10 sources.
Two gun stores in suburban Lyons and Riverdale accounted for more than 10 percent of the guns recovered.
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The study covers 17,230 guns the ATF successfully traced after they were recovered in Chicago. Many guns can't be traced because of their age or other factors, said Seth Bour, the Crime Lab's deputy director.
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
What were the total number of guns confiscated?
How many of the guns were used in violent crimes?
How many of the guns were confiscated from citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, but who violated mala prohibita infringements?
Over what period were these guns confiscated?
These numbers remind me of the 90% Mexican gun hoax.
Roseanna Ander serves as the founding Executive Director of the University of Chicago Crime Lab (2008) and the University of Chicago Urban Education Lab (2011). The University of Chicago Crime Lab and Urban Education Lab each works to help develop, implement and evaluate promising social policy interventions in a way that generates objective outcome data about what works and why, that is a rigorous as the gold standard for evidence used in medicine, another area where lives are at stake. It is based in part on the success of MIT’s “Poverty Action Lab” which has quickly become a world leader in applying similarly rigorous research methods to understanding how to address poverty and other social problems in the developing world. In January 2010, Ms. Ander was appointed to the International Association of Chiefs of Police Research Advisory Committee and to the Illinois Juvenile Justice Commission. In March 2011, Ms. Ander was named co-chair of Chicago Mayor-Elect Rahm Emanuel’s Public Safety Transition Committee. Prior to joining the University of Chicago, Ms. Ander oversaw the Joyce Foundation’s Gun Violence program, which makes annual grants of $3.3 million to support research and public policies aimed at reducing deaths and injuries from firearms. Ms. Ander also served as the developer and lead program officer for the Foundation’s grantmaking on Early Childhood Education. Prior to joining Joyce, she was a Soros Justice Fellow with the Massachusetts Attorney General’s Office where she worked on a range of issues including truancy, domestic violence and consumer protection. Ms. Ander has also worked for the Harvard Injury Control Center, the Harvard Center for Children’s Health, and the Harvard Project on Schooling and Children. She holds a bachelor’s degree from Boston University and a master’s degree from the Harvard School of Public Health.
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Actually, I believe they're working on that.....
How many came from the police dept?
Disarm them first it this is a big issue.
I am still fuzzy on the point of the article. It is my understanding that having a gun in the city is illegal so, the persons carrying the guns into the city have broken law number 1. The assumption being that IF the legally registered firearms shop did not sell the individual the gun following LEGAL processes (background check etc), then the crime would not have occurred? I think we need to re-examine our expectations that making something illegal will stop the activity.
How many of those guns were stolen from the legal owners, but still attributed to the gun shop the original purchase traced back to?
> we need to outlaw the suburbs.
Trust me. The Left is working on this. Making cars and transportation fuels and registration fees prohibitively expensive will make the suburbs available only to the elitists. Everybody else must live in the cities, where they can be more easily controlled and monitored.
What they’re trying to say is that their totalitarian gun laws would work if only those who refuse to live in the cities would be under the same totalitarian rules.
Bingo!
Important facts not in the article:
What were the total number of guns confiscated?
How many of the guns were used in violent crimes?
How many of the guns were confiscated from citizens exercising their Constitutional rights, but who violated mala prohibita infringements?
Over what period were these guns confiscated?
These numbers remind me of the 90% Mexican gun hoax.
Oh, details, details...........
Facts are what we say they are, serfs. The study is accurate, the science is settled. Submit to your betters. You didn’t expect us to actually go out and get information did you?
pfffttt...
We don’t have to, we’re the media.
Needless to say, the authors of the study won't address the real cause of the violence/misuse of firearms: an undisciplined and unmentioned thug culture by a segment of the population. Ain't the guns, honey, it's the thugs.
I’m still curious about project gangwalker.
http://sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2011/09/codrea-exclusive-project-gangwalker.html
Gang-banger straw-purchasers are the source of most guns in Chicago.
It would be racist for the suburban gun stores to deny their purchases based on the color of their skin, leaving them open to a civil rights lawsuit, would it not?
They didn’t say how many came from the city of Chicago.
But they did say at the end:
The numbers don’t mean gun stores are violating any rules, as guns are often stolen from their legal owners or bought legally by “straw purchasers” who pass them to criminals who would be prohibited from buying firearms, Ander said.
I wonder if the 4% from Wisconsin was when Illinois residents came to vote illegally in Wisconsin.
Are there any gun stores WITHIN the city? duh...
The solution is obvious. Keep the criminals from leaving the city. If Chicago kept it’s criminals in jail, or forbade them from traveling outside of the city limits the problem would be solved.
A sure way to prevent suburban gun sales leading to city crimes is to open gun stores in cities.
(its a green thing to do: less gas expended by thugs, as they patronize local gun stores rather than longer drives to the ‘burbs)
...in other words, more “criminal control” not more “gun control” is the answer.
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