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GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
RedState ^ | Tuesday August 28, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

At 2:00 p.m. today in Tampa, the Republican National Committee, led by Team Romney, is moving to shut down conservative grassroots activists. I’ve been on the phone with several individuals involved in the fight who tell me that the fight is not over, it is only just starting.

Specifically, the media is reporting that the rules fight is over because Team Romney is abandoning Ben Ginsberg’s effort to allow candidates to control delegates. Under an initial proposal, delegates would, in effect, be chosen by the presumed nominee’s campaign and not based on votes in the states and delegate selection processes in the states.

That issue appears resolved, but several people I’ve spoken to this morning make clear that Team Romney and the RNC establishment are using that compromise as a red herring to distract from two major rules change proposals that would decimate Republican grassroots and prevent upstart political campaigns.

Reports that the floor fight threat is over might be designed to calm the grassroots and get them to ignore what is coming at 2 o’clock.

The first rule to be proposed is one that would give the Republican National Committee the power to change rules between conventions with a three-quarters vote of the RNC. One source tells me, “With a Republican President, of course this is doable. Everybody will roll over if a President Romney asks them too. They’ll be able to get Ben Ginsberg’s proposal next year.”

In other words, if Team Romney prevails in this rules change, they don’t have to worry about Ben Ginsberg not getting his way today on the delegate changes. They’ll be able to do it later when the press and grassroots are not watching.

The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries.

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To: Bigtigermike

At least McCain was man enough to stand up and call us hobbits in public. After they’re done with me will they respect me in the morning.


121 posted on 08/28/2012 10:08:45 AM PDT by calico_thompson
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To: Lazamataz

Over lesser stakes I could agree with your tactics. This is too big for that. On judgement day, or for those who do not believe in that - the scope of history - I will not be found assisting either of those malevolent and empty men. I have obstructed both to the extent I can.

Your line of reasoning and your passion are understandable. But will you really aid the ascent to power of either of those predators?

All nations are ephemeral. This one too will die, and perhaps already has in all but form. It is my sincere belief that each soul is eternal however. Would you really stain yours by knowingly supporting an evil administration? I see no honest course but abstention or some third party.


122 posted on 08/28/2012 10:10:51 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Lazamataz

Aren’t you special?


123 posted on 08/28/2012 10:11:52 AM PDT by jb729
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To: Psalm 144
Dude, at this point, it's over. What's left to vote for or against. If ROMNEY PULLS THIS STUNT, I PULL THE LEVER FOR OBAMA.

At that point, I vote for the destruction of America by voting for Obama.

124 posted on 08/28/2012 10:12:40 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: jb729
Oh well. Get over it.

Better yet, convince these asshats not to silence conservatives. I made my calls. Did you?

125 posted on 08/28/2012 10:13:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: Lazamataz

I understand, but I can’t agree. God help us all.


126 posted on 08/28/2012 10:16:20 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: Bigtigermike
GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today

Idiots.

Hello 0bama II.

The party was finally starting to come together before the convention and NOW to remove victory from the equation they do THIS???

127 posted on 08/28/2012 10:17:11 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lazamataz
The dumbest and most despicable people on the planet (in order):

a. Child molesters
b. Liberal progressive leftists
c. Used car salesmen
d. People like YOU, who can't seem to put 2 + 2 together!

128 posted on 08/28/2012 10:18:57 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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"The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries. Grassroots conservatives point to both Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum as reasons to stop this rule. Had there been front loaded winner takes all primaries, neither the Gingrich nor the Santorum campaigns would have been able to get any traction."

Santorum won 11 states with perfectly-timed momentum. He had every chance under the old and proposed new rules. What crippled him and Gingrich was the Freetard-like genius who thought a 5-conservative free-for-all this past primary season would produce a conservative candidate.

A little over 12,000 more votes in Ohio under the proposed new rules and this might be Rick's convention.

But you Freetards keep on bitchin' on...free entertainment before the convention floor show...

129 posted on 08/28/2012 10:19:04 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: Iron Munro
Typically republican - Determined to alienate their conservative base and snatch drefeat from the jaws of victory.

You said it.

This is stupid, stupid, STUPID!

I believe many at the top of the party would rather lose the presidential election than lose their own power and influence.

Has to be the case.

They are making this attempt to consolidate power despite the anger it will generate within the conservative base at a time when our country is on the brink of disaster.

Unpatriotic, selfish fools.

130 posted on 08/28/2012 10:19:35 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Psalm 144

It’s amazing. Mitt Romney might get me to vote for Obama. How the hell did that happen.


131 posted on 08/28/2012 10:20:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: CedarDave

Great. Listening to rush now. I would call my delegation but I am in Texas...and they are raising hell over this GOPe dirty trick.


132 posted on 08/28/2012 10:20:44 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Scooter100

I revel in your hatred of me. Please, hate me more.


133 posted on 08/28/2012 10:21:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: formosa
Perhaps that 25 percent should completely abandon the GOP and start a third party.

Marx and Alinsky would be very, very glad to see that happen.

Are you saying that a minority faction of 25 percent or so does not count?

Not at all! I'd say that if the right splinters then the 25% of the country who hate America and love Obama will run everything.

134 posted on 08/28/2012 10:22:56 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Lazamataz
"I made my calls. Did you?"

I ordered a pizza.

136 posted on 08/28/2012 10:23:34 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: Bigtigermike

They are going to point to Akins as the excuse for these rules changes.


137 posted on 08/28/2012 10:23:59 AM PDT by Eva
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To: StAnDeliver

I called my delegates. I never make these sort of calls, but I want the conservatives and grassroots NOT TO BE SHUT OUT.


138 posted on 08/28/2012 10:25:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Funny but creepy!)
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To: Scooter100; Lazamataz

Scooter100,

I wouldn’t even get worked up over him. It’s like my 4 year old throwing a temper tantrum.


139 posted on 08/28/2012 10:26:37 AM PDT by jb729
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To: Lazamataz

I assure you, it would be a pleasure...and well-deserved.


140 posted on 08/28/2012 10:26:37 AM PDT by Scooter100 ("Now that the fog has lifted, I still can't find my pipe". --- S. Holmes)
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