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GOP Rules Committee Rapidly Moving to Shut Out Grassroots at 2:00 p.m. Today (It's not over)
RedState ^ | Tuesday August 28, 2012 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 08/28/2012 7:31:55 AM PDT by Bigtigermike

At 2:00 p.m. today in Tampa, the Republican National Committee, led by Team Romney, is moving to shut down conservative grassroots activists. I’ve been on the phone with several individuals involved in the fight who tell me that the fight is not over, it is only just starting.

Specifically, the media is reporting that the rules fight is over because Team Romney is abandoning Ben Ginsberg’s effort to allow candidates to control delegates. Under an initial proposal, delegates would, in effect, be chosen by the presumed nominee’s campaign and not based on votes in the states and delegate selection processes in the states.

That issue appears resolved, but several people I’ve spoken to this morning make clear that Team Romney and the RNC establishment are using that compromise as a red herring to distract from two major rules change proposals that would decimate Republican grassroots and prevent upstart political campaigns.

Reports that the floor fight threat is over might be designed to calm the grassroots and get them to ignore what is coming at 2 o’clock.

The first rule to be proposed is one that would give the Republican National Committee the power to change rules between conventions with a three-quarters vote of the RNC. One source tells me, “With a Republican President, of course this is doable. Everybody will roll over if a President Romney asks them too. They’ll be able to get Ben Ginsberg’s proposal next year.”

In other words, if Team Romney prevails in this rules change, they don’t have to worry about Ben Ginsberg not getting his way today on the delegate changes. They’ll be able to do it later when the press and grassroots are not watching.

The second rules change would front load winner takes all primaries.

(Excerpt) Read more at redstate.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Bigtigermike

The Sovietization of the RNC and the Republican party is almost complete. And most of the assembled delegates went right along with it.

Disgusting.


481 posted on 08/28/2012 7:37:39 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Linda Frances
GOD bless you Linda. Our kingdom is not of this earth. EVERYTHING that you have done in HIS name is important. HE knows of your actions and you touch the lives of many... some you may never even know about. You touched mine tonight. You are NOT alone.

LLS

482 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:01 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (If romney is our only chance... we have less of a chance than a Massachusetts fetus.)
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To: SecAmndmt

Boehner completely ignored the delegates screaming right in front of him loud nays!!!!!!!

This is like one of those mock Stalin ‘show trials’....there is no real debate or real vote just the appearance of one so you are so right


483 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:46 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Lazamataz

Just getting in and trying to catch up on all of this coup crapola. Please ping me to your FR-ED on this, FRiend. Thanks.


484 posted on 08/28/2012 7:45:11 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Indeed. Bump!


485 posted on 08/28/2012 7:50:45 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Eva

So we must chose your brand of evil over their brand of evil? Seems silly when there is still good to vote for.

Either Goode or Johnson...

The Big Two Parties must die and go the way of the Leninist and the Whig. No compromise with evil.


486 posted on 08/28/2012 7:57:48 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Bigtigermike

“Boehner completely ignored the delegates screaming right in front of him loud nays!”

Many of these politicians are sociopaths and crooks. They don’t a rat’s rear about right&wrong, honesty, integrity, principles, honor, truth, morals etc. Most are attorneys, so brazenly lying without fear of consequences comes naturally to them; the end justifies the means every time.

Apologies to the honest attorneys in this forum.


487 posted on 08/28/2012 8:00:33 PM PDT by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: formosa
I'm with you formosa. This is more confirmation for me that in order to save the GOP as a true opposition party, we really, really need Romney to LOSE in November.

And yes, even if that means Obama wins.

short term pain, long term gain.

488 posted on 08/28/2012 8:02:33 PM PDT by delapaz
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To: yantis

I am going to steal that bit of Latin there and use it for a background on my PC - and my smartphone :)


489 posted on 08/28/2012 8:04:20 PM PDT by Spacetrucker (Sorry, folks, give my spot in the handbasket to an angry lib >:))
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To: Bigtigermike

I’m not convinced Mitt is behind this, why on earth would Mitt want to divide the republican party against itself at a time like this?

Does Mitt want to lose? Why did the guy who proposed and pushed this change even propose it? It goes against the very foundation of everything we have been fighting for for the last few years. Is he trying to completely destroy our party and chances of winning?


490 posted on 08/28/2012 8:10:28 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Lazamataz
“The S.O.B.s passed the rule, despite more nays than yeas. Boehner ruled for the yeas.”
“I need proof of this. If this is true, then Republicans have ZERO moral authority to EVER criticize OTrauma for ruling by edict. There's utterly no point to role calls if they are going to rule their desired way, despite the actual vote.”

The “proof” was in my ears. The nays were louder (there was no role call), and he said the yeas have it and then there was a loud mass of voices yelling because he did that, and he ignored it and went on talking. It was so evident he knew he did wrong. He was going to give that to Romney no matter what.

491 posted on 08/28/2012 9:14:18 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Eva

‘We’re all one trade away from humility.’
—Wall Street


492 posted on 08/28/2012 9:32:40 PM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

It really doesn’t make a difference in the long run what the GOP rules are. This is something of a useless fight, one Mitt’s people should never have started for obvious reasons but useless nonetheless.

I honestly think Mitt has a lot of backstabbing traitors working for him, and that mitt is too willing to be led around on a stick by the democrat media.

I admit to being fooled on the Akins thing, Although I still maintain Akin’s should have resigned and spared us the controversy we could not afford to fight this year.


493 posted on 08/28/2012 9:39:09 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Monorprise

“Why did the guy who proposed and pushed this change even propose it?”

Because Romney sent his men in there to present and pass the new rule he wanted. The chairman of the rules committee was Romney’s buddy, Sanunu, plus a man from Romney’s Utah, plus one from Maryland, PLUS Romney’s lawyer. That’s why it was proposed.


494 posted on 08/28/2012 10:12:15 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: Monorprise

It was Mitt own lawyer Ben Ginsberg pushing these changes, you can’t get any closer to Mitt other than Ann! So Mitt had to know and approve of it


495 posted on 08/28/2012 10:32:02 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: Marcella

I don’t believe Mitt is that stupid as to think this will do anything but hurt him big time precisely when he needs the party untied behind him.

I think the man who did this did it to hurt mitt.


496 posted on 08/28/2012 10:34:30 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Eva
This IS all about the Paultards.

This is about shutting down We The People, the Paultards are the excuse. Wise up.

497 posted on 08/28/2012 10:35:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, Just to pi$$ off the Romney botts.)
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To: Monorprise

You aren’t thinking. John Sonunu is Romney’s right hand man and he was chairman of the rules committee. The man from Utah was his man and the one from Maryland was his man and the lawyer in there to get it done is Romney’s lawyer.

Romney got two of the committee members from Florida taken out as committee members and two of Romeny’s people took their place to be sure Romney got those votes.

If you don’t understand this, you have a problem.


498 posted on 08/28/2012 10:41:24 PM PDT by Marcella (Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: itsahoot

It’s the other way around, but it’s over now. No one is talking about except here on FreeRepublic. Heck, I woudn’t have even known about it if I wasn’t following FreeRepublic. I would have been better off staying awsy. There was nothing good happening here, today.

The convention moved on, the speeches were great and the Paultards will have to find some other way to take over the GOP.


499 posted on 08/28/2012 10:44:02 PM PDT by Eva
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To: dragnet2
If the country elects Romney, we will survive to have another election.

Sure we can, it will be rigged, but we can still have it, right?

500 posted on 08/28/2012 10:46:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (Write in Palin in 2012, Just to pi$$ off the Romney botts.)
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