The Rush Limbaugh LIVE Radio Show Thread - Tuesday, August 28, 2012

[IMissPresidentReagan]

Quick Post

[Current Occupant]

The levees were not the problem, the canal wall broke.

[NonValueAdded]

Rush, let’s not jump the shark.

[skinkinthegrass]

What do you think is a myth?
..and we ARE the Republican Party.
Without us, the GOP is dead meat.the real enemy is the Marxists/Marxism in our Society
we crossed wires..me thinks **(grinnin' & surfin') **...

"myth"/"mittens" = Mitt (he told "falsehoods" about his imagined foes)
is/was the " conservative pet" name for Mitt Romney; during the primaries.
btw; i've been votin' "conservative" before it became popular ('73)

[ExCTCitizen]

Where is everybody. In Tampa?

I live here!!! :)

I was going to lunch with my wife and kids (who are home schooled) and some LIBERAL LAZYBONES were seeking refuge in my building lobby (it was raining) -- talk about the left... one guy had a 'LEGALIZE MARIJUANA' t - shirt on him, two others had 'LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE' on them and the rest had Obama T-shirts on.

I told them that this building is 'PRIVATE PROPERTY and they have to leave. they told me they had a RIGHT to be there. I ask them when did they lease an office (building is 100% occupied).

Liberals are socialists. My oldest son said to me at lunch, 'how can they be like that?'

I said, 'Public School education!' he laughed...

[skinkinthegrass]

oh...& welcome to FR. :-)
family use to live in College Station / Bryan TX
GO! AGGIES! GO! <} ;-D

[ExCTCitizen]

I voted for three Democrats in my lifetime: 1) a local Democrat in my town (a good friend), 2)Ella Grasso when she was running for re-election for Govenor of CT (She would be a Republican nowaday) and 3) Joe Liberman when he ran against the WACKJOB Lowell P. Weicker.

[MinuteGal]

I concur with all you said. I just am a little upset that Rush stepped in the fray at all and appears to the uninitiated that he's on the side of the elites and RINOs....which I know he isn't.

This is a rare case when he should present the facts and stand a little aside and let us decide, because either outcome is going to further divide the delegates. It's a no-win situation for both sides of the issue which are unfortunately fighting for control of the party's rules.

I'm watching C-SPAM and listening to Rush at the same time. I'm happy to see the speakers, including that of the RNC Chair really taking it to Obama, no holds barred. Don't worry, folks, no one is being "Mr. Nice Guy".

I also see a number of delegates sitting grimly in their chairs, arms folded, not clapping one bit during any speech on the podium.

Draw your own conclusions.

Maybe Mr. Peanut, Jimmah Cahtah, should be asked to come in and mediate.....LOL

Leni

[Texas Cass Patriot]

I'm sorry about the previous posts, I forgot all the html stuff. I hate all the infighting so much, I am so angry the RNC is actually picking this fight. I am still hoping the grassroots conservative TEA Party movement is able to stay within the GOP and keep dragging them to the right, so the Democrats don't get control after a clear split. THAT is what scares me as the result if there's a clear split. The Republican party should be the conservative party to protect the Constitution, and I'd prefer the moderate establishment hacks be put out to make that happen. I'm afraid after things like us electing Ted Cruz instead of David Dewhurst, the RNC establishment is so wet pants scared they will attack us all over the place. They'll go at us, but the GOP establishment is so whipped and neutered they won't attack liberals. They're so pathetic.

[Texas Cass Patriot]

My first account was TexasPatriot8 but I don’t have that email anymore and I could not get it to log in or change the password (can’t remember it now, browser cookie gone, didn’t write it down), and when I tried to ask it to send it to me by my ID name, it said it didn’t exist as an account, so I tried to register it again, and it said it already existed, so I gave up and just started another one, but I had that TexasPatriot8 id for several years. Maybe I can get the email address with my ID changed and the PW reset at some point I hope.

[Texas Cass Patriot]

Ah I gotcha now. I'm so angry about this anti-conservative rules change I misunderstood your post. Sorry about that.

[Texas Cass Patriot]

Leni, I’m Allen from Texarkana. I was done actually, Rush didn’t cut me off, I had reached 100% ventage. I didn’t catch any part that Rush thinks conservatives wouldn’t stand up to this, I thought he was saying the grassroots wouldn’t stand for it and wouldn’t take this. I hope and pray the grassroots conservative movement will push back hard and hit the RNC with everything it has to stop this. I believe 100% this is because the RNC establishment is wet pants scared of the TEA Party grassroots conservatives beating their hack establishment RINO candidates like Luger in IN and Dewhurst in Texas. I think the RNC is doing this to try and neuter the Tea Party because we’re gaining more and more steam and a larger and larger block of Representatives and Senators every election cycle, they know we’re going to be setting the Republican agenda in the Congress in not too long. I just wish the RNC had the testicles to stand up and push back at liberal socialist Democrats like they seem to always have to swipe at and stop on the conservative movement. Without us THERE IS NO Republican majority. The RNC is clearly brain damaged cause they just don’t get that!!! Pissing off lifetime Constitutional conservative Christian active people like me, is NOT the way to political relevance or longevity for the Republican party. They better get a clue and STOP it before they do something that destroys the country!

[Texas Cass Patriot]

Tks, though I have been here for years as TexasPatriot8, but I couldn’t get it logged in after several tries when I changed email addresses a while ago so I gave up.

[Texas Cass Patriot]

This will be VERY bad for the conservative movement if the RNC establishment get their way. This will be BAD for us no bones about it.

[Will88]

I’d gotten the impression that this rules change debate would be a floor fight, but so far there seems to be no mention of it. Does anyone know if this would be decided out-in-the-open in a floor fight, or would it be decided in a meeting away from the main floor?

[Texas Cass Patriot]

Ironically, even the one I voted for turned out to be a big liar, big lib, literally talking a good conservative game, cause he knew the Republican was a big moderate RINO. So even the ONE democrat I voted fro in 22 years, was a crock of crap and not an actual conservative Democrats. Now a days and from this point forward (I believe since Zell Miller switched parties and retired), the only difference between a Snipe and a Constitutional conservative Democrat, is that there MAY actually BE a Snipe out there somewhere!

[Yosemitest]

Welcome to Free Republic.
I get angry often, too, and old age and diabetes type II doesn't helo.
The "Establishment Republicans" are fighting over power, power that they are losing.
Haven't you read:

Jack Kerwick wrote an article on May 24, 2011 titled The Tea Partier versus The Republican and he expressed some important issues that I agree with.


Thus far, the field of GOP presidential contenders, actual and potential, isn’t looking too terribly promising.

This, though, isn’t meant to suggest that any of the candidates, all things being equal, lack what it takes to insure
that Barack Obama never sees the light of a second term; nor is it the case that I find none of the candidates appealing.
Rather, I simply mean that at this juncture, the party faithful is far from unanimously energized over any of them.

It is true that it was the rapidity and aggressiveness with which President Obama proceeded to impose his perilous designs upon the country
that proved to be the final spark to ignite the Tea Party movement.
But the chain of events that lead to its emergence began long before Obama was elected.
That is, it was actually the disenchantment with the Republican Party under our “compassionate conservative” president, George W. Bush,
which overcame legions of conservatives that was the initial inspiration that gave rise to the Tea Party.

It is this frustration with the GOP’s betrayal of the values that it affirms that accounts for why the overwhelming majority
of those who associate with or otherwise sympathize with the Tea Party movement
refuse to explicitly or formally identify with the Republican Party.
And it is this frustration that informs the Tea Partiers’ threat to create a third party
in the event that the GOP continues business as usual.

If and when those conservatives and libertarians who compose the bulk of the Tea Party, decided that the Republican establishment
has yet to learn the lessons of ’06 and ’08, choose to follow through with their promise,
they will invariably be met by Republicans with two distinct but interrelated objections.

First,
they will be told that they are utopian, “purists” foolishly holding out for an “ideal” candidate.

Second, because virtually all members of the Tea Party would have otherwise voted Republican if not for this new third party,
they will be castigated for essentially giving elections away to Democrats.



Both of these criticisms are, at best, misplaced; at worst, they are just disingenuous.
At any rate, they are easily answerable.

Let’s begin with the argument against “purism.” To this line, two replies are in the coming.


No one, as far as I have ever been able to determine, refuses to vote for anyone who isn’t an ideal candidate.
Ideal candidates, by definition, don’t exist.
This, after all, is what makes them ideal.
This counter-objection alone suffices to expose the argument of the Anti-Purist as so much counterfeit.
But there is another consideration that militates decisively against it.

A Tea Partier who refrains from voting for a Republican candidate who shares few if any of his beliefs
can no more be accused of holding out for an ideal candidate
than can someone who refuses to marry a person with whom he has little to anything in common
be accused of holding out for an ideal spouse.
In other words, the object of the argument against purism is the most glaring of straw men:
“I will not vote for a thoroughly flawed candidate” is one thing;
“I will only vote for a perfect candidate” is something else entirely.



As for the second objection against the Tea Partier’s rejection of those Republican candidates who eschew his values and convictions,
it can be dispensed with just as effortlessly as the first.

Every election season—and at no time more so than this past season—Republicans pledge to “reform Washington,” “trim down” the federal government, and so forth.
Once, however, they get elected and they conduct themselves with none of the confidence and enthusiasm with which they expressed themselves on the campaign trail,
those who placed them in office are treated to one lecture after the other on the need for “compromise” and “patience.”

Well, when the Tea Partier’s impatience with establishment Republican candidates intimates a Democratic victory,
he can use this same line of reasoning against his Republican critics.
My dislike for the Democratic Party is second to none, he can insist.
But in order to advance in the long run my conservative or Constitutionalist values, it may be necessary to compromise some in the short term.

For example,

as Glenn Beck once correctly noted in an interview with Katie Couric,
had John McCain been elected in 2008, it is not at all improbable that, in the final analysis,
the country would have been worse off than it is under a President Obama.
McCain would have furthered the country’s leftward drift,
but because this movement would have been slower,
and because McCain is a Republican, it is not likely that the apparent awakening that occurred under Obama would have occurred under McCain.


It may be worth it, the Tea Partier can tell Republicans, for the GOP to lose some elections if it means that conservatives—and the country—will ultimately win.

If he didn’t know it before, the Tea Partier now knows that accepting short-term loss in exchange for long-term gain is the essence of compromise, the essence of politics.

Ironically, he can thank the Republican for impressing this so indelibly upon him.




I'm fresh out of "patience", and I'm not in the mood for "compromise".
"COMPROMISE" to me is a dirty word.
Let the RINO's compromise their values, with the conservatives, for a change.

The "Establishment Republicans" can go to hell!

This isn't a short skirmish, but a real battle for power.
"Estabishment Republicans" lose every time they lead.
If it wasn't for the Fabian Fascist( read Obama's Fascist America in 10 Easy Steps) I'd let Romney fall on his face, and not vote for him.
Maybe that's what I should do, but I just can't allow Obama another term.
If a conservative wins in a brokered convention fight, that'll be great.

[Texas Cass Patriot]

100% dittos with that #56 post you made! Thank you for all that. Do I ever totally agree!

[Dr. Sivana]

So even the ONE democrat I voted fro in 22 years, was a crock of crap and not an actual conservative Democrats.

That's funyy, the one Democrat I voted for was okay (Glenn Poshard, IL), and his Republican opponent got elected by lying (George Lyin' Ryan), and wound up going to jail (where he still sits, deservedly). So, it happens sometimes. For the record, Poshard was a downstate anti-machine candidate who wasn't supposed to win. The Chicago operation played ball with Ryan, and kept turnout down for Poshard. Their dial works both ways.

John Silber (MA) and Jim Lawlor (CT-5) were a couple of otehr Dems better than their Republican opponent.

[TropicanaRose]

I was driving back to my office on my lunch break when you were on & enjoyed your call. Give ‘em hell for all Texans & Freepers!

[af_vet_rr]

Gov’t bars James O’Keefe from flying to Tampa:

He entered federal property under a false pretense.

To his credit, he did man up and admit that he did it, but it was still federal property and they were there under a false pretense. Being on the no-fly list for a while is the least of his problems. He's quite lucky to just get probation.