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Gun ID legislation may trigger exodus of gunmakers Remington, Colt
Fox News.com ^ | August 28, 2012 | Joshua Rhett Miller

Posted on 08/28/2012 2:10:15 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright

Two venerable American gun manufacturers — Remington and Colt — could head for the West their weapons helped win if New York and Connecticut force them to implement microstamping technology.

Microstamping, or ballistic imprinting, is a patented process that uses laser technology to engrave a tiny marking of the make, model and serial number on the tip of a gun’s firing pin to allow an imprint of that information on spent cartridge cases. Supporters of the technology say it will be a “game changer,” allowing authorities to quickly identify the registered guns used in crimes. Opponents claim the process is costly, unreliable and may ultimately impact the local economies that heavily depend on the gun industry, including Ilion, N.Y., where Remington Arms maintains a factory, and Hartford, Conn., where Colt's manufacturing is headquartered.

“Mandatory microstamping would have an immediate impact of a loss of 50 jobs,” New York State Sen. James Seward, a Republican whose district includes Ilion, said, adding that Remington employs 1,100 workers in the town. “You’re talking about a company that has options in other states. Why should they be in a state that’s hostile to legal gun manufacturing? There could be serious negative economic impact with the passage of microstamping and other gun-control laws.”

In March, prior to the recent mass shootings at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.,  a Sikh temple in Wisconsin and at New York’s iconic Empire State Building, Remington executive Stephen Jackson wrote to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo warning forced microstamping could prompt the company to “reconsider its commitment to the New York market altogether rather than spend the astronomical sums of money” necessary to reconfigure its manufacturing and assembly processes.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; ct; gunrights; ny
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To: null and void

That’s a bit creepy.


21 posted on 08/28/2012 3:47:32 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: buffaloguy

I second that notion.....

Come on down to Texas, where you belong.

Texas, Colt, Remington....has a nice ring to it!!


22 posted on 08/28/2012 3:55:07 PM PDT by Donkey Odious (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: Dutch Boy

George Orwell, Ayn Rand, we regard their books as warnings, The left thinks of them as manuals.


23 posted on 08/28/2012 4:02:24 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1317 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Neil E. Wright
It does not impact lawful gun ownership at all.”

That is the last sentence of the article.

What they do not say is the only way to make it work is a database of gun owners by make model and serial number.

Without that there is no way to trace it, so it is also back door gun registration.

24 posted on 08/28/2012 4:05:04 PM PDT by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)
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To: Neil E. Wright

A file, 30 seconds, and it’s gone. Where does this make any sense? What criminal would leave it in place? This is the stupidest idea I have ever heard of.


25 posted on 08/28/2012 4:15:43 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: Little Ray

T-shot penetrates kevlar. That’s why they took it off the market.


26 posted on 08/28/2012 4:17:41 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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To: Neil E. Wright

Apparently liberals think that criminals who hot-wire cars, defeat home alarm systems, and steal credit card info are too stupid to use steel wool on firing pins...


27 posted on 08/28/2012 4:19:55 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: Dutch Boy

Right.

And the bottom line is that since almost all major crimes, other than crimes of passion, are committed with stolen guns.

And in crimes of passion there is no need to look for the bad guy.

When the cops arrive, he usually is standing there with the smoking gun telling everyone what a SOB the dead guy was.

So many people are Marxists and don’t even know it.


28 posted on 08/28/2012 4:22:13 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Neil E. Wright

Please, Colt and or Remington move to Texas. We are a large firearms market, business friendly, low cost of living, committed to personal freedom and great food. Come on down and you will stay.

And, microstamping wears off in a relative few number of rounds fired. It is bogus dolt technology, only promoted to make people feel safe when they are not.


29 posted on 08/28/2012 4:22:22 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: buffaloguy

Bump!


30 posted on 08/28/2012 4:24:02 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Donkey Odious

BUMP!


31 posted on 08/28/2012 4:25:08 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: CodeToad
"I would LOVE to have them here in Colorado. We have a fantastic manufacturing base, a well educated population, and all the land they could ever need to set up shop and a shooting range (hint, hint)."

After a look at regulations in some of the remote, sparsely populated counties, they'll probably avoid Calirado.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 4:36:44 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Mormon Cricket

What is T-Shot? Tungsten shot?


33 posted on 08/28/2012 4:42:35 PM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: familyop

I’m unfamiliar with those regs, so, like what?


34 posted on 08/28/2012 4:45:23 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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To: Neil E. Wright; All

if it is patented then SOMEBODY is going to be making money and the government is picking a croney winner.

WHO PAID who to force people to use this?

the inventor must have been unable to sell it on the free market so now the inventor is forcing the sale of this USELESS tech on the makers.

time to expose the money trail.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 4:56:21 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Neil E. Wright; marktwain; Joe Brower
Micro-stamping:


36 posted on 08/28/2012 5:00:10 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: TheBattman
But I have a question - wouldn’t it be simple just to take some fine sandpaper or a polishing wheel and just remove the microprint on the firing pin? For that matter - wouldn’t the micro engraving eventually be worn out of normal wear? What if the firing pin must be replaced? Would a new one have to be specifically manufactured for THAT gun with all the information engraved?

The point is back-door gun banning, in slow motion. It will be a felony to sand off the marks. Of course, they will need to be inspected frequently to be sure. YOu will need to bring your guns in, and they will be checked adn tested at your cost. Miss a test, you are a felon. No guns! It will be so legally risky and costly to own a gun, that folks will get rid of them to avoid becoming an accidental felon.

37 posted on 08/28/2012 5:03:40 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Neil E. Wright
I don't think that the Rats in NY and CT are smart enough to understand the consequences of their legislative priorities. On the other hand, they may know that micro-stamping will drive costs higher and make purchases of some weapons out of the reach of lower-income, law abiding citizens, that are just dumb enough to want the government to provide protection from crime. (This is the ultimate form of government dependency.)

There are so many ways around gun control laws. A little knowledge, research and ability provides anyone with the will to completely avoid the government in gun transactions. For instance, and this is completely legal, one could build a M24 (a weapon used by Army snipers), or a close facsimile, without the government knowing. To do so, one needs to buy a Remington 700 for the basis of the M24 build from an individual, not a gun dealer or store. There are 5 million 700's in the US, most of which are used for hunting, so they are sighted in once a year, and if the hunter is skillful, used to take game ... So maybe 30 rounds are passed thought the barrel in a year. Thus, it is easy to purchase a 700 in very good condition to use its action to make an even better weapon. (A model 700, unaltered, is a fine weapon on its own.) The rest of the parts to build a M24 are not controlled or restricted in anyway by law and are readily available over the Internet or at a gun show; where you can use cash for a purchase.

The real danger in NY and CT's anti gun legislation is that the folks that make a good and satisfying living making weapons for Colt and Remington will lose their jobs, or will have to move with their companies. If anti-gun legislation is taken to extremes, those companies will move offshore. Remington and Colt should immediately start talking about moving their operations to Mexico. It would be interesting to see what would happen if Army and Marine sniper weapons and all M16's and most M4's are built in Mexico.

38 posted on 08/28/2012 5:06:38 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (The truth hurts)
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To: Neil E. Wright

I don’t understand why Colt has not departed Connecticut for better pastuers yet.As a citizen of Connecticut you can’t even by an AR-15 that has any semblence to an M-16.

Not that I need a Bayonet lug or the need to operate it on full-auto.But this Government Dictates that the rifle can’t even have a flash suppressor.What a bunch of worthless SOB’s we have in the STATE Government in Connecticut.

Colt should leave as soon as Possible.


39 posted on 08/28/2012 5:08:08 PM PDT by puppypusher (The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Little Ray

Steel buckshot - for geese


40 posted on 08/28/2012 5:34:47 PM PDT by Mormon Cricket
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