Posted on 08/29/2012 3:14:27 PM PDT by GOPinCa
Excerpts released by the Romney campaign from Paul Ryan's address tonight to Republican convention in Tampa, Florida:
"I accept the calling of my generation to give our children the America that was given to us, with opportunity for the young and security for the old and I know that we are ready. Our nominee is sure ready. His whole life has prepared him for this moment to meet serious challenges in a serious way, without excuses and idle words. After four years of getting the run-around, America needs a turnaround, and the man for the job is Governor Mitt Romney. ...
Obamacare comes to more than two thousand pages of rules, mandates, taxes, fees, and fines that have no place in a free country. The president has declared that the debate over government-controlled health care is over. That will come as news to the millions of Americans who will elect Mitt Romney so we can repeal Obamacare. ...
(Excerpt) Read more at weeklystandard.com ...
I’d like to believe him and think it can be done. I doubt Romney though but will vote for him anyway. The alternative is just stupid.
Let's leave it at that. I don't want to hear further talk of Obamacare's replacement post repeal, unless it's lip service to keep the fear mongers off balance.
Seems to me like we'll need a reach around too if Obamacare is not repealed.
Thanks GOPinCa.
Any anti-Obama rhetoric? Is his name mentioned? C’mon GOP.....FIGHT!
I like Paul Ryan
I like Chris Christie
I even think Romney can do some good
There are 2+ million employees of the federal government and 535 member of congress and most of them see these guys are a real threat to their present circumstance, job, pay check, house and gravy train.
To think that these guys can “fix” this situation is ridiculous. Plus, what makes us think the guys who got us here are the ones to get us out of the mess?
Hope I am wrong.
schu
Bigger agenda, since the Dems can filibuster
“Repeal to 1789”
So, are you recommending that we just throw in the towel and give up?
McConnell just spoke and his whole speech was anti-Obambi...I think this sets up the whole evening as attacks on Obambi
Yeah after four years of the run-around, Romney is here to at least give us a “reach around”
I do not recall saying that.
However, I do not think our problems can be solved by Washington nor do I think our problems are political in nature. Therefore looking to these guys to "fix" the circumstance is absurd.
schu
No, none of us wants to give up, the problem is we have to define what “success” is here. If we win, we all are going to go through some really hellish economic times. And if we lose, we all go through even worse times.
The only way to solve what is wrong with our economy, health care, all of it is to allow the unpayable debt in the system to unwind (deleverage) itself through market forces and to stop allowing government to easily intervene and take external manipulation out of the equation entirely for at least several years.
The result of this victory, will be an immediate and severe depression that will make the 1930s seem nostalgic. Who is going to vote for tihs? /sarcasm on “I WANT TO VOTE FOR ECONOMIC COLLAPSE BECAUSE ITS THE RIGHT THING TO DO! SIGN ME UP FOR THAT!” /sarcasm off
How do you make voters go for that even if it is the right thing to do and the only way out? We tried to take the medicine right before Bush did the first bailout before he left office. We flooded Washington with calls begging them to NOT start down that path. We are Americans, and we will take it on the chin and get out the other side stronger. We should have done it then. But we did not. Now the pain will be an order of magnitude worse. Most of us will end up with nothing but the shirt on our backs if we take the hit now.
But that’s not the worst part. The very worst part is that not only can we not convince voters to take it now rather than later, we also can’t convince them that if we wait until the economic system falls under its own weight we will almost certainly lose our form of government, the Constitution and everything we associate with our way of life. We won’t be the USA any more. Something else will fill the power vacuum from a collapse that severe and there will not be any fixing it. It will be pure luck if we can retain any freedom and liberty at that point.
So, how does all this sound? Because this is where we really are right this moment, today. We can choose to lose almost all of our material wealth now, or we lose absolutely everything including our freedom later.
Choose.
You won’t. You will do what is in any human beings nature. You will ignore it for as long as you can until it cannot be ignored any longer. I don’t blame people for this. It’s too big and scary to easily think about.
Paul Ryan has some solid budget ideas, but they don’t fix the problem. His balancing of the budget would work, if we were not already too far under.
A “turnaround” can’t happen until the pain is over. It hasn’t even begun yet. And he can not tell people this, because that would make him and Romney unelectable.
fighting will make the look mean /sarc
This election was over before it started
LOL
When I found out that Obama was going to attach my SS (again) for a student loan that was forgiven in November of 2011, I decided he was trying to take my money for his failings.
It took me 14 years of fighting to get forgiveness for that loan due to a disability that began in 1989, and there is no way I can be compensated for the time, effort, sacrifice and suffering that I went through to try and make it all valid. He needs a comeuppance of the NASTIEST kind. I hope he takes a long time dying. (Isn’t that a line from the book “Sho-Gun” by james Clavell?) Yah. like that.
Oh gee here come the positive people.
Paul Ryan did a very good job.
(would call Obama, “Mr. Obama”, rather than pRes_ _ent Obama,
in the Reagan way, however).
Awesome job by Ryan!!!
Little Missy Chrissie Matthews saying Ryans speech was racist and full of dog whistle code speak. Surprise, surprise.
I came in at the tail end of McPain’s talk and am glad I missed McC; he makes KY seem irrelevant, and McPain makes one question the judgment of AZ too.
The speech by VP nominee Rep. Paul Ryan was AWSOME! Great job Rep Paul!
Ryan was awesome tonight.
YES HE WAS !!!!
In football analogy, Ryan 222 - 0bama 0.
We know it is going to be tough. But tough and FREE is worth more than tough and slave.
Best line was about college grads still living in mom’s basement staring at their faded obama poster.
I started watching when Tim Pawlenty spoke: Grade C. Huckabee: Grade A-. Both of them tore up owebama pretty well.
Condi Rice gave a very powerful speech but she never mentioned o-boy. Grade B+.
Susanna Martinez was very good and tore up o-boy a little. Grade B.
Paul Ryan was pretty awesome. He didn’t hit his stride until midway and then he REALLY tore owebama a new one. It reminded me of listening to Ronaldus Magnus in 1979. Yeah, he was THAT good. Grade A+.
Republicans hate women and minorities which is why black and Hispanic females presented prime-time speeches.
I have confidence that when Mittens and Ryan win the adults will be back in charge and the power of the American economic engine will be unleashed again.
Bigger agenda, since the Dems can filibuster
You play the same game the democrats played and use a Majority vote only!!!
Well written. Obama has had his play time protected by the “entertainment” class. Time for adults and leadership.
Once the private sector / small businesses realize they have a pro-free market President who is an ALLY to them instead of an ANTI-American ANTI-free market ANTI-Capitalist President, a groundswell of upstarts and productivity will spread across America like a full-on industrial/tech revolution. 0bama is a cancer in Uncle Sam’s stomach that must be removed!
Ryan fits my profil to a tee, - metal head, workout fanatic, debt fanatic, Ayn radian, libertarian, Henry hazlitt, gold bug , Gen Xr!
I thought Ryan hit his stride right out of the starting gate. One of the best speeches I’ve ever seen. His was calm, clear and concise. Perfect mix of seriousness and humor and his timing was stellar. I can’t quite explain it but his presence is reminiscent of Reagan.. He is the embodiment of passionate patriotism.
I thought he did a good job and connected on several levels. He appeared smart, youthful, energetic, knowledgeable, realistic, properly sober.
If he didn’t connect with youth on the sleeping in your childhood bedroom staring at your faded obastard posters the kids don’t care and can’t be persuaded.
20% of GDP is enough government
His Mom’s small business (unnamed) but he has seen someone work for that (My Mom did similar when I was in high school. It was hard and took dedication and guts)
Not so wild about medicare but he swore to preserve it
Young adults in their 20s staying in their childhood bedrooms staring at faded obastard pictures and wanting a job
Time to fix is short and he should know. We are so close to the end if not at it.
A country where everything is free but us.
Ryan is whom I am referring to.
Portam did a good job.
Condi lost me on the compassionate immigration or whatever that was. Not for it. I’m not so passionate about being the policeman for the world. I’d rather see us as FIRST among equals.
Huck talked too much about huck for me and didn’t have a lot to say. Sounded too much like poor me the loser and failed candidate. Didn’t like that, it was not constructive.
Pawlenty, ho hum.
One of the things that Americans always have is our ability to "move on to the next big thing." Indeed, Americans have the technical know-how to become the first country within 20 years to move beyond wide use of petroleum as fuel. We are now re-discovering the research done in the 1960's at Oak Ridge National Laboratory to create a highly-advanced nuclear reactor that has almost none of the downsides of conventional uranium-fueled reactors--indeed, the radioactive waste from this reactor has a half-life of under 300 years, if the nuclear medicine industry doesn't grab the "waste" first! And we are on the verge of a major breakthrough in electric batteries using dry-electrode lithium-ion and ultracapacitor technologies that could make long-range electric cars finally viable.
In short, what made the USA great was the fact we've had a long history of people willing to take risks to do something revolutionary. It is that very spirit that will ensure America's survival well into the future.
I just watched Paul Ryan’s speech, and it was the best speech by any politician I’ve ever heard. He’s even better than Ronaldus Magnus, and I never thought I’d ever say that. I am absolutely in awe of this man.
Very much agreed with Ryan on spending cuts being needed, but I would like to see much more funding cut than he. He wouldn’t want to cut all of the romanticist, so-called progressive programs and offices (conceived in the mid-1800s, foisted on us more recently) because of his religion/culture. I would rather that all of those were completely abolished (public education, no-fault divorce, etc.: what Susan B. Anthony and her friends desired and wrote about).
Besides, he’s running for the office of vice-president—not a whole lot of influence or duty there. The ticket is backwards (should be Ryan/Romney, in that order, for a small improvement).
Heh...howdy, AQ! You know me (chauvinist/Puritanical, sort of). Wish I’d seen the Ryan speech, though. Maybe it’s freely available on the Net for viewing. [No TV reception up here. We’re doing some work up the hill before winter and did long distance errands all day. This whole bunch of nerds are doing fine here. Hope that you are, too.]
AH is correct on the state of the economy. Those who compare this fiscal situation to the 1980's are mistaken. Carter (and portions of the world, frankly) were combating high inflation, high interest rates, and OPEC artificially inflating the price of fuel which ramped up commodity costs.
All the "magic buttons" we can typically push to pull out of a recessaion have ALREADY been pushed; first by Bush, and now by Obama. Interest rates are at or near ZERO, no liquidity. Trillions in extra cash have been sloshed around the globe, no liquidity.
What we have done is tried to keep the MOAB of all bubbles from popping, the derivative bubble. Forget the dot.com, the housing, etc. We've only experienced microbursts, and that drained trillions out of the macro market and has wiped out life-times of wealth.
We're reaching the nexus of the Minksy Moment and the mid-point of a long-wave contraction. The economy will continue to deleverage, because this is happening on a global level. Even if we falsely prop up our economy with continued QE, the EU and emerging markets are still going to collapse under their own weight.
It's not a double-dip; it's a depression, and we have 6 more years of pain to go.
Watch Kyle Bass' presentation to Americatalyst in 2011 on You Tube. The DC insiders know it. Folks paying close attention know it.
I'll take all the crap I've accumulated over my lifetime and kiss it goodbye if it means my children get to live debt-free in a Constitutionally based, Representative Republic again.
AH is correct on the state of the economy. Those who compare this fiscal situation to the 1980's are mistaken. Carter (and portions of the world, frankly) were combating high inflation, high interest rates, and OPEC artificially inflating the price of fuel which ramped up commodity costs.
All the "magic buttons" we can typically push to pull out of a recessaion have ALREADY been pushed; first by Bush, and now by Obama. Interest rates are at or near ZERO, no liquidity. Trillions in extra cash have been sloshed around the globe, no liquidity.
What we have done is tried to keep the MOAB of all bubbles from popping, the derivative bubble. Forget the dot.com, the housing, etc. We've only experienced microbursts, and that drained trillions out of the macro market and has wiped out life-times of wealth.
We're reaching the nexus of the Minksy Moment and the mid-point of a long-wave contraction. The economy will continue to deleverage, because this is happening on a global level. Even if we falsely prop up our economy with continued QE, the EU and emerging markets are still going to collapse under their own weight.
It's not a double-dip; it's a depression, and we have 6 more years of pain to go.
Watch Kyle Bass' presentation to Americatalyst in 2011 on You Tube. The DC insiders know it. Folks paying close attention know it.
I'll take all the crap I've accumulated over my lifetime and kiss it goodbye if it means my children get to live debt-free in a Constitutionally based, Representative Republic again.
Thank you!
Excellent! Right on Ryan!
Here is a great true-life story from the young generation of new conservatives who get it:
http://www.facebook.com/truealucard
Paul H Tran
12 hours ago
Recently, while I was working in the flower beds in the front yard, my neighbors stopped to chat as they returned home from walking their dog. During our friendly conversation, I asked their little girl what she wanted to be when she grows up. She said she wanted to be President some day.
Both of her parents, liberal Democrats, were standing there, so I asked her, “If you were President, what would be the first thing you would do?”
She replied, “I’d give food and houses to all the homeless people.” Her parents beamed with pride!
“Wow what a worthy goal!” I said. “But you don’t have to wait until you’re President to do that!” I told her.
“What do you mean?” she replied.
So I told her, “You can come over to my house and mow the lawn, pull weeds, and trim my hedge, and I’ll pay you $50. Then you can go over to the grocery store where the homeless guy hangs out and give him the $50 to use toward food and a new house.”
She thought that over for a few seconds, then she looked me straight in the eye and asked, “Why doesn’t the homeless guy come over and do the work, and you can just pay him the $50?”
I said, “Welcome to the Republican Party.”
Her parents aren’t speaking to me anymore.
Ryan gave a good speech, but he’s no Reagan. Reagan comes along once in a life time.
That is how America will eventually be able to pay off or lay off its stupefying debts.
Ryan’s plan never balances the budget. At the end of his timeline, there’s still a $400B deficit in his plan.
Thanks for writing that up.
The one point that you made quite well needs to be made again.
All of the “magic buttons” in post-war keynesian and monetarist economics have been pushed. All of them. Some of them more than once.
We can equate the Federal Reserve to an impatient moron standing on a street corner, waiting for the light to change. So they hit the “Walk” button. When the light doesn’t change fast enough for them, they start stabbing their finger on the button repeatedly, each time with more frustration.
For the people who don’t know what you meant by “Minsky Moment,” I can explain:
Hyman Minsky was one of the last economists to look at the structure of debt, rather than numeric quantifications of debt. Minsky liked to examine the “web of debt” that ties so much of modern economies together, and what happens when a “tower of debt” is built upon poor foundations. Eventually, stupid lending practices can lead to a collapse of the “tower of debt” because the stupid lending practices rip out the foundations of the tower of debt (ie, the lenders and financial systems).
If the Japanese situation shows us anything, it is that the pain can last a lot longer than only six years more from where we are.
I was thinking of the famous song, “Juke Box Hero” in regards to the Ryan Speech.
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