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Bicyclist shot after colliding with pickup truck in Taylor; Later dies during surgery
ClickonDetroit ^ | Aug 30 2012

Posted on 08/30/2012 4:24:05 AM PDT by equaviator

Police say pickup truck driver shot bicyclist after crash, altercation at Telegraph, Northline roads

TAYLOR, Mich. -

A bicyclist who was shot after being involved in a traffic accident with a pickup driver in Taylor has died.

Taylor police say the bicyclist died during surgery after the Wednesday night incident with a 46-year-old driver.

Police said the two began arguing after the bicyclist disregarded a "Do Not Cross" signal at Telegraph and Northline roads, causing the driver to hit him. Witnesses said the bicyclist got up and confronted the driver.

"The pedestrian light was red. He wasn't supposed to be crossing and ran into the side of the truck," said witness Michelle Noffsinger. "He jumped up, he got up, and he ran around the front of the truck to the driver's side and he just started pounding on this guy. He hit him ... maybe seven times or so, and then the driver shot him and he fell to the ground. It was just really crazy."

Witnesses told police the driver pulled a pistol and fired one round at the bicyclist, striking him in the chest. The motorist stayed at the scene until police arrived. He is being held pending any charges.

Police said they are still trying to identify the bicyclist. He is described as a white man between 35 and 40 years old with gray hair. He was riding a 10-speed bike.

Anyone with information on the crash, shooting and the bicyclist's identity is asked to contact the Taylor Police Department.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
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1 posted on 08/30/2012 4:24:15 AM PDT by equaviator
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To: equaviator

Sounds like he got what he asked for.


2 posted on 08/30/2012 4:28:08 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: equaviator
He jumped up, he got up, and he ran around the front of the truck to the driver's side and he just started pounding on this guy. He hit him ... maybe seven times or so, and then the driver shot him and he fell to the ground.

It's like the old saying:

Don't bring a bicycle to a gun fight.

3 posted on 08/30/2012 4:28:44 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: equaviator

Need control on these assault vehicles.


4 posted on 08/30/2012 4:29:31 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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To: equaviator

Scratch one obnoxious bicyclist.


5 posted on 08/30/2012 4:30:48 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: equaviator

One down a million more to go.


6 posted on 08/30/2012 4:37:50 AM PDT by anton
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To: jospehm20

Even Bicyclist Repair Man couldn’t help...


7 posted on 08/30/2012 4:38:14 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (I will fear no muslim))
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To: equaviator

Calling Rev’s Sharpton and Jackson...Get to Detroit at once!!....

.......{He is described as a white man between 35 and 40 years old with gray hair}......

Ohhh.....wait....nevermind.


8 posted on 08/30/2012 4:39:31 AM PDT by Nekman (Liberals have no use for facts, they get in the way of the narrative.)
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To: equaviator

Everyone driving a pickup has a gun, and the older guys will not get out and fight with you, they will just kill you.


9 posted on 08/30/2012 4:40:15 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 !)
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To: equaviator

While I realize a headline can only be so long, one must wonder why ‘they’ manage to mangle it and mislead the readers.

To read the headline, one would conjure up an image of a bicyclist being shot by a mean old pick up truck driver - AT LEAST it wasn’t an SUV - then ‘they’ could have thrown in Assault Weapon.

This society raised on sound bites and USA Today will never know that
A., the bicyclist caused the accident and
B. the bicyclist assaulted the driver and
C. the driver was apparently acting in self defense - NOT the suggested aggressor.


10 posted on 08/30/2012 4:41:48 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 "It is virtually impossible to clean the pond as long as the pigs are still crapping in it")
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To: equaviator

hmmmm, white, 35-40, riding a bicycle yet disobeying traffic laws, blaming everyone else for his mistakes. One less liberal voter.


11 posted on 08/30/2012 4:42:25 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: equaviator
Dumbarse award of the day. Never bring fists to a gun fight!

LLS

12 posted on 08/30/2012 4:44:57 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (If romney is our only chance... we have less of a chance than a Massachusetts fetus.)
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To: equaviator
Hmm, sounds like a good plug for “Road ID” - never ride alone. I always wear mine when riding.

Also, bikes on the road are supposed to follow “road rules” not “pedestrian rules” - although a number of vehicle drivers and bike riders don't know that.

13 posted on 08/30/2012 4:46:36 AM PDT by PeteB570 ( Islam is the sea in which the Terrorist Shark swims. The deeper the sea the larger the shark.)
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To: equaviator

Liberals ride their bikes with total disregard for motorists thinking that because they’re “saving the environment” they have the right of way at all times.


14 posted on 08/30/2012 4:48:33 AM PDT by albie
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To: equaviator

The cyclist is now a former member of Critical Ass.


15 posted on 08/30/2012 4:48:41 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: equaviator

I’m sorry the bicyclist ended getting shot for his idiocy, but bicyclists not obeying stop and other traffic signs is common where I live. I’m willing to bet a lot of money that the great majority of cyclists sail through stop signs (and many time traffic lights) without stopping. So while cyclists have rights, they also have responsibilities.


16 posted on 08/30/2012 4:50:28 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: jospehm20

LMAO. Karma.


17 posted on 08/30/2012 4:53:41 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: equaviator

>He is being held pending any charges.

WTF? They just jail him until they can think or trump up charges?


18 posted on 08/30/2012 4:57:49 AM PDT by soycd
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To: equaviator
A LOT of cyclists in Austin might want to read this story. Or, maybe not. I don't know...

Note to self: Don't run to vehicle of someone with whom you have a dispute and start hitting them through the driver's side window (or any window for that matter).

19 posted on 08/30/2012 4:58:44 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: albie

Odds are (1) lIberal (2) gay (3) arrogant. Sounds like the cyclist was on the way to chick fil-a


20 posted on 08/30/2012 4:58:52 AM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: PeteB570

I believe that "road rules" include :
a. "Comply with traffic signs/signals". And
b. "Don't start a fight when you screw up".

(I will refrain from any snide comments on the difference between Kevlar and Spandex.)

21 posted on 08/30/2012 5:00:02 AM PDT by norton
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To: equaviator
Oh, also, another "Zimmermann" event in the making. Oh wait, no blacks involved. For some reason, I feel a song coming on....

A liberal guy and liberal gal, ride their bikes in the ghetto....

22 posted on 08/30/2012 5:00:30 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: John O
One less liberal voter.

Just being dead won't necessarily stop him from voting.

23 posted on 08/30/2012 5:00:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Cardinal Dolan's DNC prayer is titled "Ritus exorcizandi obsessor a daemonio")
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To: driftless2

I commute by bike and yes I blow stop signs and traffic lights. If there is a car in the intersection I will stop for 4 ways. I always proceed with caution.

On the other hand. People who are in cars who pass me with inches to spare are upsetting. Most people are bad at judging distance and speed.

I ride like I am invisible and just expect drivers to not see me.


24 posted on 08/30/2012 5:03:14 AM PDT by pennyfarmer (Even a RINO will chew its foot off when caught in a trap.)
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To: driftless2

I obeyed traffic laws in general when I was a full-time bicyclist, because I knew how vulnerable I was to either hostile or inattentive drivers.

The only law I would’t completely obey was the stop sign. I wouldn’t absolutely stop, but I would slow down and ascertain my safety. I was never careless or chancy when it came to my road safety.


25 posted on 08/30/2012 5:07:34 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: equaviator

Why is the driver being held? You’ve got a witness affirming self-defense, the driver called it in and waited for the police, he is most likely a local with longstanding ties to the community. Why would you not release him on his own recognizance while being investigated? Does he have a criminal record or something?


26 posted on 08/30/2012 5:09:21 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: equaviator

I’ve been waiting for this. Bicyclists are the among the most arrogant and sanctimonius bastards I know. They continually scoff at traffic regulations. They have their rights, you know.

Matbe the yeomanry is going start to put some fear into the ‘protected’ classes.


27 posted on 08/30/2012 5:09:30 AM PDT by x1stcav (There's a bunch of us out here spoiling for a fight.)
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To: equaviator

Also, the article says the driver hit the cyclist, but then they quote a witness who says it was the other way around.


28 posted on 08/30/2012 5:11:00 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: equaviator

Why I won’t join a bicycling club.

I’m waiting at a light after dark. It turns green. As I press my accelerator. A bicyclist zips off the cross street SIDEWALK to my left and we both slam on our brakes as he stops right in front of me.

He then gives ME a ration!


29 posted on 08/30/2012 5:26:00 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Depone serpentem et ab veneno gradere.)
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To: equaviator
There is a subculture of cyclists that refuse to wear helmets because it implies that they have some responsibility for safety. For them, it is by definition the car's fault.

When I was doing a lot of cycling (which is regrettably no longer the case - time to go back into retirement!), I always wore a helmet, I also dressed in a tee-shirt and normal people's shorts and not like a French queer. I rode all over Eastern North Carolina and never had a problem

30 posted on 08/30/2012 5:26:32 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: equaviator

—He was riding a 10-speed bike. —

Bike must have been a Schwinn Varsity.


31 posted on 08/30/2012 5:37:03 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Are you kidding?!

They should try this guy with George Zimmerman and hang ‘em high!

/s


32 posted on 08/30/2012 5:37:42 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: anton

One down a million more to go.


Hey, I resemble that remark!

I bicycle commuted from the late 80’s until about 2007 in Seattle. I stopped because of cell phones and texting. On the roads it’s always Saturday at 2 in the morning now. It’s very dangerous to ride on the roads.

I’ve actually been hit by three cars, all badly scratched up but I never went down. It’s because they all tried to take right turns while next to me.

Sounds like this cyclist had an attitude problem. Even if he had the green that was the wrong way to respond.


33 posted on 08/30/2012 5:40:46 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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34 posted on 08/30/2012 5:41:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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Wasn't me. I've been driving the van lately.

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35 posted on 08/30/2012 5:41:57 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: wideawake

Also, the article says the driver hit the cyclist, but then they quote a witness who says it was the other way around.


Yeah. The article itself said the bicyclist ran a red and t-boned the vehicle.


36 posted on 08/30/2012 5:44:16 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: pennyfarmer

Ah, someone who understands rules of the road.

Was it confusing to you that the article says the biker did not stop for the “pedestrian” stop light? I mean, bikes are vehicles, not pedestrians. Bikers obey vehicle rules when on the road. There should be no reason for him to stop...unless they meant it was a bike trail or the biker was using the walkway.

I have little doubt that the biker is at fault, but wish the article was clearer.


37 posted on 08/30/2012 5:44:43 AM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: equaviator

This story reminds me of what my father told me - and I’ve always remembered it.

He was right, dead right,
as he rolled along.
But he is just as dead, right
as if he were wrong.


38 posted on 08/30/2012 5:45:33 AM PDT by colorcountry (The gospel will transform our politics, not vice versa (Romans 12:1,2))
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To: driftless2
I’m sorry the bicyclist ended getting shot for his idiocy, but bicyclists not obeying stop and other traffic signs is common where I live.

I live in a rural area with narrow, hilly, twisting roads, yet almost every weekend, I come around a curve at the recommended speed limit just to be confronted with a huge group of pumping butt-cheeks doing 10 mph.

I can understand why cyclists do what they do.....but they need to make sure the area is adequate for it and have their vehicles 'taxed' since they want to share the road.

Just my 2 cents.

39 posted on 08/30/2012 5:45:54 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: equaviator

"He jumped up, he got up, and he ran around the front of the truck to the driver's side and he just started pounding on this guy. He hit him ... maybe seven times or so,"

The truck driver is lucky. A half dozen solid hits could have put him in the hospital instead. The bicyclist should have been grateful to be alive; instead, he is not. An example set for the rest of us, I hope.


40 posted on 08/30/2012 5:48:40 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: equaviator

My town had the trouble making bicyclists for a while but now our police give citations to bicyclists who violate road rules. It thinned out the bikes by 75%. Trouble seeking bikers don’t go through town anymore. It’s great.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 5:49:49 AM PDT by GreatRoad (O < 0)
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To: colorcountry

Th laws of physics are not ambiguous.


42 posted on 08/30/2012 5:56:18 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ZX12R

“Everyone driving a pickup has a gun, and the older guys will not get out and fight with you, they will just kill you.”

Nicely put!


43 posted on 08/30/2012 6:05:52 AM PDT by enraged
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To: John O

My thoughts exactly


44 posted on 08/30/2012 6:06:35 AM PDT by Psalm 144 ( "I didn't leave the Democratic Party. The party left me." Ronald Wilson Reagan)
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To: cuban leaf

Back about 20 years ago I used to help our local amateur radio club with providing communication support on a number of charity bike tours—y’know, the 75- or 100-mile day trips raising money for the Heart Association or Lung Association or MDA, etc. Most of the riders I met were just ordinary people, good folks who wanted to have a day challenging themselves or just riding in the beautiful Virginia countryside while raising money for a worthwhile charity.

But there was always a subset that didn’t just dress like Lance Armstrong, they thought they *were* Lance Armstrong. They were the ones that, despite a state trooper telling everyone that they had to ride single-file on the highway, would promptly go four-wide across both lanes on blind mountain roads, cut lanes on curves, blow stop signs, and yell at the residents who suddenly found themselves driving amongst a bunch of cyclists (a rare experience in rural Virginia). They were jerks to the volunteers at the aid stations too.

I try to be as careful as I can around cyclists because they’ve got their rights on the roads too, but way too many of them seem to think they can do what they want and flout traffic laws and get away without consequences. Sounds like the Spandex cut off the blood flow to this guy’s brain.

}:-)4


45 posted on 08/30/2012 6:07:52 AM PDT by Moose4 (...and walk away.)
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To: xrmusn

This should be reported on national networks and cable news channels. Let it be a lesson to the bike riding public.


46 posted on 08/30/2012 6:26:52 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Darksheare; Borax Queen; null and void
Darks, I don't know how, but you've obviously had a hand in this.

Suicide by bycycle........not your finest scheme....

:-)

47 posted on 08/30/2012 6:28:08 AM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: albie

I’ve had the displeasure of having to slam on my breaks for overweight younger black females who must be assuming they’re entitled to cross the street wherever and whenever they choose as if to say, “I’m here and you must respect my space!”


48 posted on 08/30/2012 6:32:19 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: MamaTexan
In my area there is a dedicated bike trail that is newly asphalted and 17 miles long. It runs alongside the highway because it used to be a obsolete light-gauge railroad, but it was resurfaced (and planted with shading trees) specifically to be used for bicycles and joggers.

Yet I routinely see cyclists riding on the highway shoulder anyway when they are 30 feet away from a dedicated, deluxe bikepath.

Also, near where I vacation, there is a sidestreet than runs for about 9 miles that is parallel to and one block over from a heavily trafficked four lane main road.

The sidestreet has only two traffic lanes because it has dedicated bikepaths running along both sides of the street for its entire length.

Yet the main road always seems to have a peloton of Lance Armstrong wannabes who are not interested in cycling on the boring sidestreet but want to weave through traffic.

I once had a very unpleasant incident with one of these geniuses which might have escalated to the level of this article had the offender not been shorter, tubbier and older than myself and smarter than the clown in this article.

49 posted on 08/30/2012 6:36:37 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Jonty30
The only law I would’t completely obey was the stop sign. I wouldn’t absolutely stop, but I would slow down and ascertain my safety. I was never careless or chancy when it came to my road safety.

At one time, in my home state of Idaho, bicycles did not have to come to a complete stop at stop signs (lights were different). They did however, have to slow down, assess the situation, and proceed with caution (following the rules of stops signs when there were other vehicles on the road). Not sure if that has changed in 20 years.

50 posted on 08/30/2012 6:36:55 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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