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More Trouble in Kansas--Fatal Encounter between Anti-Slavery and Pro-Slavery
New York Times ^ | January 21st, 1856 | Unknown

Posted on 09/10/2012 9:27:33 PM PDT by One Name

The Kickapoo (Kansas) Pioneer of the 18th, says: "A battle took place last night at Easton, between a party of Abolitionists and some Pro-Slavery men -the former making the attack. One Pro-Slavery man was killed and several wounded. Several Abolitionists were also killed and some wounded. A company from Lawrence, headed by Capt. BROWN, commenced the fight with the Kickapoo Rangers

(Excerpt) Read more at query.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: civilwar; kansas
Pre-CWI battle a few miles from here...

Locals appeared to have kicked ass. Things were ugly then- best brace for it again.

1 posted on 09/10/2012 9:27:37 PM PDT by One Name
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To: ThunderSleeps

Here you go.


2 posted on 09/10/2012 9:29:23 PM PDT by One Name
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To: nathanbedford

Might be of interest, 1856..


3 posted on 09/10/2012 9:31:23 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

I wasn’t able to work the link. Bummer. I had ancestors in KS at that time.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 9:39:06 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: One Name

Personally I’m pro-choice when it comes to slavery. The government shouldn’t be able to tell you what you can and can’t do with your property. Its not like they are human anyway. Those religious fanatics that make up the abolitionist movement are nuts. I’m more interested in jobs and the economy. Social issues like slavery are just a downer for the republican party.

/s


5 posted on 09/10/2012 9:42:16 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: married21

I clicked it up after I posted.. here’s the pre-link.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10E17FC3859157493C3AB178AD85F428584F9


6 posted on 09/10/2012 9:43:46 PM PDT by One Name
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To: icwhatudo

No one I know wants to re-institute slavery; many I know are tired of this federal government, however.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 9:46:44 PM PDT by One Name
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To: icwhatudo

No one I know wants to re-institute slavery; many I know are tired of this federal government, however.


8 posted on 09/10/2012 9:50:05 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name
headed by Capt. BROWN

John Brown of Harpers Ferry fame? Wouldn't doubt it. The time and place are right.

9 posted on 09/10/2012 9:55:03 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: One Name
What is of interest to me is whether history rightly should characterize John Brown as a terrorist?

Meanwhile, it is an historical curiosity that the two men dispatched to free the hostages and apprehend John Brown at Harpers Ferry were Jeb Stuart and Robert E Lee.


10 posted on 09/10/2012 9:57:29 PM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: icwhatudo

Yeah- the table sure flipped- not sure when; pre-dates me.

But- the resistance resonates.

My people scraped what they could out of the dirt, in central Missouri in the Depression.


11 posted on 09/10/2012 9:58:10 PM PDT by One Name
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To: nathanbedford

He was a guerilla; such as was common across the border here.

He was a stern old man, with several sons in ideological lockstep.

He didn’t set out to be a guerilla/terrorist; but he crossed the line and there was no return after the killings at Osawatomie.

Neither side wanted to claim him (for long). There were many aspects to the conflict and his is a confusing one.


12 posted on 09/10/2012 10:06:27 PM PDT by One Name
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To: LibWhacker

Not sure about that- I think it’s a different Brown.

John Brown was further south around Paola/Osawatomie and never held official rank IIRC.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 10:13:16 PM PDT by One Name
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To: nathanbedford

As to the distinguished interlopers at Harper’s Ferry- I can only guess at Brown’s reputation as a killer requiring such a committee. He was off the scale- pro freedom leave-us -the f_ck alone to now you pissed me off and here I come, don’t care if I’m 65, so much the better.


14 posted on 09/10/2012 10:31:16 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Hardly ‘news’....


15 posted on 09/10/2012 10:44:48 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: One Name
A company from Lawrence, headed by Capt. BROWN, commenced the fight...

This may account for the Quantrill raid. Probably retaliation.

16 posted on 09/11/2012 2:54:31 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: Nifster

“News” Travels slow in some circles.

Might check “activism” and see if it rings any bells.

Just sayin’.


17 posted on 09/11/2012 8:39:31 PM PDT by One Name
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To: stormhill

Plenty of grist for that mill...


18 posted on 09/11/2012 8:40:43 PM PDT by One Name
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To: stormhill

Quantrill’s motivation/rationalization for the largest raid centered on the women killed and injured in the jail collapse.

Additionally few know of the Jayhawker raid on Osceola.


19 posted on 09/11/2012 8:50:03 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: One Name

The point that Brown crossed the line was the Pottowatomie Creek raid where he needlessly killed squatters in retaliation for the border crossing illegal voters trying to keep the Lecompton Slaveholder Constitution.


20 posted on 09/11/2012 8:56:13 PM PDT by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years.)
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To: One Name

and John Brown’s body is still moldering in the grave


21 posted on 09/11/2012 9:01:15 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: KC Burke

Yeah- he was definitely commitable at that point. And the abolitionists had great difficulty claiming him after that.

Hero, traitor, lightning rod, whatever- he was all that.

Crazy in my book.


22 posted on 09/12/2012 8:20:29 PM PDT by One Name
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To: Nifster

Moldering’s well done by now.

He’s not a hero of mine, but an interesting character in the Conflict.

Some go all in- at age 65 it was fairly easy for him to do.

Those with little or nothing to lose can tend to be radical.


23 posted on 09/12/2012 8:26:14 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

“Those mwith little....”

Nonsense. The greatest thing any individual has is their pwn life. It is not easily given for something one does not believe in. I need only point to modern day terrorists who are generally middle class or better and yet decide to kill themselves and others in the name of their pederast prophet


24 posted on 09/12/2012 8:49:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

You’ve been drinking I suspect.

Us old dudes have less to lose, straight up.

I’m not worried about the afterlife...


25 posted on 09/12/2012 9:02:18 PM PDT by One Name
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To: One Name

Don’t drink so you must be confused.


26 posted on 09/12/2012 10:41:47 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster

Perhaps you were posting from a cell phone- my apologies.

Your post was garbled...


27 posted on 09/14/2012 6:14:46 PM PDT by One Name
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