Skip to comments.Arnold-Jones: Citizenship Without Voting Rights
Posted on 09/11/2012 2:07:03 PM PDT by SF Geo
Congress should create a one-time path to citizenship for illegal immigrants who admit violating the nations immigration laws but have no other criminal history, said Arnold-Jones, the Republican nominee for New Mexicos 1st Congressional District seat in the U.S. House.
If youve been in our country illegally and you raised your hand and you have done everything to become a U.S. citizen, and you acknowledge that you broke the law, the consequence is withholding the right to vote even though youre a citizen, because you cannot buy citizenship, Arnold-Jones said.
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She has come up with maybe the best idea to counter the left's hold on Hispanics/illegals. Could be the game changer we need.
She suggests a path to citizenship but (because they broke the law) the don't get to vote.
She is already backing down, saying no vote for 5 years but that's not good. What is the fear of an illegal? Getting pulled out of their life here, I think. Would they trade that insecurity for their vote? Most likely.
Any time period should focus on when they can be eligible for benefits.
I’m a high school drop out and even I know that you can’t create a class of citizens without voting rights. It would NEVER pass constitutional muster.
We cannot afford to adopt the poor of the world all at once.
>> you cant create a class of citizens without voting rights
And even if we could — constitutionally speaking — how the hell would we *enforce* the no-voting sanction, when we can’t even do a decent job of enforcement against illegals, criminals, and dead people now?
No sale. Go home and apply for legal residency like everyone else in the world has to do.
Well, how about 3/5 of a vote? There's precedent, in a way.
They’d be in front of the supreme court inside of a year demanding their voting rights and they would win by unanimous decision.
What a doofus to propose this.
Obama has built his career on subterfuge and sneaky, back door tactics.
This would play right into his and the democrats hands.
It is just a way to sucker some voters, senators and congressmen into suporting a grant of citizenship to illegals.
Can't this so-called republican see the pitfalls?
It would be sort of like letting the camel's nose under the tent.
Before it is over you have the entire camel in the tent with you.
After the bill was passed and signed the democrats would orchestrate a great outcry that it is not fair and not constitutional to prevent these poor citizens from voting.
Then, either congress would pass a bill granting full voting rights or the courts would do it for them.
PRESTO! A few million more democrat voters!
Sorry. as others of said. Won’t fly. We had a 1 time amnesty in the 80’s. sorry they all missed it.
kick them the eff out of my country. We have citizens who want to work but can’t because someone who should not be here has taken their job.
Hey look everybody,Isn’t that a camels nose under the flap to our tent?You know what would eventually happen.
Actually, you can: we strip felons of voting rights routinely. Offer citizenship on the condition that they acknowledge their felony immigration violation, and sentencing is set to time previously served. But as admitted felons, they lose the right to vote. . . .
Don't be too sure. You probably have never looked at the (unconstitutional as hell) provisions of the 1965 Voting Rights Act, but basically, the States of the Old Confederacy can't vote if Eric Holder says they can't. Period.
'Rats tied Texas up in court with a redistricting beef last spring and froze Texas out of the primary race. We were supposed to vote in April. We didn't get to vote until it was all over -- May 29th. Tell me that wasn't a phony lawsuit brought by the 'Rats, making sure Romney won.
They did it in the teeth of the Supreme Court, which prorogated and then slapped the taste out of the forum-shopped federal district Obammy judge who'd told Texas we couldn't vote. They sent the case back down, on fire. But the 'Rats continued, undeterred, brazenly to litigate us out of our voting rights.
So guess who went back to court this month?
Texas is going to be lucky to vote in the general. That seems to be what the 'Rats have in mind.
Sure you can. You just use some term other than “citizen”. Create a legal status for foreigners that allows them to work, remain here, attend school, etc,,,, but simply not to vote.
There is nothing in the constitution prohibiiting such legislation. Call it special guest, foreign worker with benefits, etc. It could be done.
Besides, as Obamacare showed, violation of the constitution is often allowed in some situations.
There was no such thing as 3/5 of a vote, ever. There was a provision that slave states could only count 3/5 of their inhabitants for purposes of seats in congress. The logic being, you don’t get allocated extra seats for people whom you are holding against their will.
Felons are nothing but “citizens”, stripped of voting rights, after due process of law. A mexican, somali, or chinese smuggled in, could get a similar deal. “Citizen” with no voting rights after due process of law.
AND, if they want to vote, nobody is stopping them from returnng home, immigrating properly, and getting full citizenship.
Yeah, I know. Did I forget the /S?
For 21 years I was a citizen without voting rights. I have a niece who will not be allowed to vote even though she was born in the US and has never committed a crime, merely because, through no fault of her own, she was born after November 6, 1994.
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