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Mitt Romney does not think middle class starts at $200,000 a year (Your Going to love this one...)
Yahoo! News ^ | 9/14/2012 | Chris Wilson, Yahoo News

Posted on 09/14/2012 1:01:13 PM PDT by apillar

In an interview that aired Friday morning, Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney told "Good Morning America" that the definition of middle income in America is "$200,000 to $250,000 or less."

Romney's answer is a bit confusing, because 200,000 is included in the universe of numbers less than 250,000. If you take the statement at face value, however, it appears that Romney is using the same upper limit as President Barack Obama when it comes to middle-income earners. Obama's proposed tax hike for the richest Americans begins with taxable income over $250,000.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: biasedmedia; crapjournalism; liberalreporters
This one takes the cake and demonstrates just how desperate the liberal media is getting. Romney said the middle class is under $200,000 or $250,000 a year in a sort of convoluted way and the liberal reporters are actually trying to claim he thinks middle class in between $200,000 and $250,000 a year.
1 posted on 09/14/2012 1:01:24 PM PDT by apillar
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To: apillar
They are going to get their collective panties in a wad over this statement?

When Obama's presidential failure meter is charting off the map?

2 posted on 09/14/2012 1:07:49 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: apillar

I’d define the middle class from $75K to $400K, with the upper limit very location dependent. Does see how anyone stays afloat these days who makes less than $75K.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 1:09:11 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: apillar

WE DO NOT HAVE “CLASSES” OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!! PERIOD!!!! That only exists in INDIA!!!! Are we now trying to become like INDIA????


4 posted on 09/14/2012 1:16:16 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA
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To: apillar

Middle class is a pretty subjective term. I’ve known people who made a half million dollars and chose to live in ancient house trailers and dove old beater pickup trucks.

Between $40 and $50 grand for a single person is what I consider to be middle class depending on things like location and lifestyle.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 1:18:49 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: rbg81

They have both parents working, kids go to subsidized day care with free meals, food stamps, subsidized housing, mortgage forgiveness and lots of coupons.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 1:20:11 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: apillar
If you take the statement at face value, however, it appears that Romney is using the same upper limit as President Barack Obama

Did I miss hearing Romney say anything about raising taxes based on "upper limit"?
7 posted on 09/14/2012 1:21:31 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: rbg81

It all depends on many factors. A single guy renting an apartment for $800 per month making 75k does very well. A family with a $2,000 mortgage plus private school or daycare, 2 car payments, a 30 mile one way commute, and a $75k household income is indeed struggling mightily. How well one is doing has almost as much to do with expenses than with income.


8 posted on 09/14/2012 1:27:37 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: cripplecreek

I considered myself “middle class” when I made $30K (in the ‘90s). I think it’s more a state of mind than a defined income range, as well as how you manage your income.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 1:27:48 PM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: apillar

I’m beginning to wonder how Mitt Romney ever even held down a middle class or better job himself given his difficulty in putting a clear sentence together.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 1:29:06 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: JediJones

Gee, you’re usually so supportive.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 1:34:46 PM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: LibFreeUSA
WE DO NOT HAVE “CLASSES” OF PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!! PERIOD!!!! That only exists in INDIA!!!! Are we now trying to become like INDIA????

BINGO! Use of Marxist terms is Un-American!

12 posted on 09/14/2012 1:35:03 PM PDT by frogjerk (OBAMA NOV 2012 = HORSEMEAT)
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To: JediJones
I’m beginning to wonder how Mitt Romney ever even held down a middle class or better job himself given his difficulty in putting a clear sentence together.

Better yet, I guess that theory could be used to explain why BO has never held a real job.

13 posted on 09/14/2012 1:35:49 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: JediJones
Three words, Jedi:

OUT OF CONTEXT

This is clearly a partial quote of a partial quote, and is compounded by the source (Yahoo). If you believe this is the totality of his comment, please click on this link.
14 posted on 09/14/2012 1:44:34 PM PDT by ssaftler (With apologies to Gene Kranz: "Obama is not an option")
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To: JediJones
Three words, Jedi:

OUT OF CONTEXT

This is clearly a partial quote of a partial quote, and is compounded by the source (Yahoo). If you believe this is the totality of his comment, please click on this link.
15 posted on 09/14/2012 1:45:18 PM PDT by ssaftler (With apologies to Gene Kranz: "Obama is not an option")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yeah I was comfortable enough at around $30,000 in the mid 90s. I’ve always been pretty frugal anyway.


16 posted on 09/14/2012 1:54:41 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: apillar

Now let’s look at what Romney actually said, in an interview with “GMA” host George Stephanopoulos:

Stephanopoulos: Is $100,000 middle income?

Romney: No, middle income is $200,000 to $250,000 and less.

Peoples leaves out the words “and less,” making it sound as if “$200,000 to $250,000” is the range Romney considers “middle income” when in fact it is the upper limit.

Oh, and how does President Obama answer the question? Peoples again: “President Barack Obama has defined ‘middle class’ as income up to $250,000 a year.”

So Romney’s definition of “middle income” is identical to Obama’s definition of “middle class.” One may quibble over where to draw the line, and we’d question the premises behind the whole line-drawing exercise, but here the AP misrepresents the facts in order to score a partisan point against Romney.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/09/full-transcript-george-stephanopoulos-and-mitt-romney/


17 posted on 09/14/2012 1:58:53 PM PDT by unique1
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To: rbg81
"I’d define the middle class from $75K to $400K, with the upper limit very location dependent."

Very astute! Location has everything to do with how far your money goes. Live in a liberal state - you need a lot more money to buy the same as you could buy in a low-tax, low-regulation state!

Why has Texas enjoyed a high influx of people and businesses fleeing high-taxed states?

The so called 'middle class' is a highly subjective term that means almost nothing. Most people assume that once they obtain permanent employment, and own a home, that they have become part of the middle class. Many that can pay rent comfortably, and have a good job also consider themselves part of the 'middle class.'

BUT - this idiotic administration is deliberately tearing down the middle class - desperately trying to create a second Soviet Empire - where there are only two classes, the slave class, and their slave masters.

18 posted on 09/14/2012 2:00:49 PM PDT by Ron C.
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To: apillar
Obama thinks your rich if you make 250K. Remember when he got the question from Rick Warren in a debate with MC Cain in 2008.
They were both asked what they thought rich was Obama answered 250K Mr. Warren answered back “Not if you live in California” and MC Cain answered 5 million which the audience laughed at. I think McCain was more on track
IMO.
19 posted on 09/14/2012 2:07:28 PM PDT by funfan
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To: JediJones

Romney speaks just fine. Not sure why you make such a strange statement. For all his RINO faults public speaking isn’t one of them. He is as slick as a used car salesman and even kind of looks like one. :-)


20 posted on 09/14/2012 2:16:20 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Ron C.

I read somewhere that the median income in Manahattan is $280K/yr. Not that surprising if two professionals combine their incomes. That sounds like a lot, but RENTING a 1000 sq.ft. apartment can run $5000 per month easily in a choice neighborhood.


21 posted on 09/14/2012 2:18:55 PM PDT by boop (It's not personal...it's strictly business)
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To: rbg81

My expenses are 12k/year.


22 posted on 09/14/2012 2:19:54 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: apillar
THIS IS A DISTRACTION!!!!

Romney and Romney's people keep getting distracted by shiny objects -- traps the opposition keep setting for them.


23 posted on 09/14/2012 2:28:29 PM PDT by TomGuy
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To: plain talk

Every time I listen to him under any kind of stress he says a lot of “ums” and “ahs,” and he seems to be giving more just plain unintelligible answers since getting the nomination in an increasingly strained effort to try to take all sides of every issue at the same time. Not that he hasn’t had verbal problems before, like his infamous FOX interview last year with Bret Baier and his disastrous, election-losing answer regarding his tax returns in the South Carolina GOP debate.


24 posted on 09/14/2012 2:29:37 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: steve86

“My expenses are 12k/year.”

That’s my health insurance cost.


25 posted on 09/14/2012 2:59:09 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

If I were to go out and purchase a non-subsidized policy, the cheapest appears to be a premium of $256/month (age 58, male, non-smoking) with a maximum benefit payout of $100,000/yr (not much by modern standards), but a very small deductible. Prescription coverage IS included. The quote for my wife is about the same. This is in Washington State. So for both of us the annual premium would be about half the 12k.


26 posted on 09/14/2012 3:13:02 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature not nurture TM)
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To: JediJones

Ok. Well I don’t have a problem with his speaking and always considered him polished in that regard. Not as good as bill clinton but much better than obama or bush. Speaking is the least of his problems IMO. He must persuade and not sure he has enough passion to get that done.


27 posted on 09/14/2012 3:45:33 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: rbg81

So at $50K with just one income and a nice house on a golf course, half paid for, I am lower class?


28 posted on 09/14/2012 7:48:50 PM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: MrChips

I couldn’t get by on $50K. Of course, I still have one kid in college. If you can, my hat is off to you.


29 posted on 09/14/2012 8:17:46 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: apillar

I’ve always defined middle class as somebody who had to earn an income in order to make ends meet. If you do not need to earn an income to make ends meet, you are either upper class, or lower class (welfare + food stamps).


30 posted on 09/14/2012 8:26:23 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks apillar.
31 posted on 09/15/2012 10:24:21 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ssaftler

That’s enlightening. They manage to twist every Republican’s quote into the worst interpretation possible.

But is there a single FReeper remaining who doesn’t know that the commie leftists continually lie about absolutely everything?


32 posted on 09/15/2012 12:59:12 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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