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There may be no anti-Islamic movie at all
CS Monitor ^ | 09-12-2012 | Dan Murphy

Posted on 09/14/2012 9:44:37 PM PDT by bronxville

[...]Now comes the part with the compelling case of no movie at all.

Abdurrahman writes (embedded link):

If you watch closely, you can see that when the actors are reading parts of the script that do not contain Islam-specific language, the audio from the sound stage is used (the audio that was recorded as the actors were simultaneously being filmed). But anytime the actors are referring to something specific to the religion (the Prophet Muhammed, the Quran, etc.) the audio recorded during filming is replaced with a poorly executed post-production dub. And if you look EVEN closer, you can see that the actors’ mouths are saying something other than what the dub is saying.

For example, at 2:53, the voiceover says “His name is Muhammed. And we can call him The Father Unknown.” In this case, the whole line is dubbed, and it appears the actor is actually saying, “His name is George (?). And we can call him The Father Unknown.” ...once you start to look for these dubs, it’s hard to see anything else.

And Grey writes (embedded link):

As the video above — cut from the YouTube video tied to a global controversy — shows, nearly all of the names in the movie's "trailer" — is a compilation of the most clumsily overdubbed moments from what is in reality an incoherent, haphazardly-edited set of scenes. Among the overdubbed words is "Mohammed," suggesting that the footage was taken from a film about something else entirely. The footage also suggests multiple video sources — there are obvious and jarring discrepancies among actors and locations... whoever made (it) may well have made use of little more than the standard editing software Final Cut Pro — far from a cast and crew of over 100 and millions of dollars. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0912/There-may-be-no-anti-Islamic-movie-at-all

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 9112012embassyattack; antiislamicmovie; guyfawkes; islammovie; islammoviemaker; islamriots; noislammovie; phoneymovie; voicesdubed
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To: JPII Be Not Afraid

Samuel Jackson, George Cloony and countless others that have his back came to mind.


41 posted on 09/14/2012 11:44:54 PM PDT by angelsonmyside (Someone please send the Loser in Chief a "President For Dummy's" book.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

I am with you on this, the attack on our 2nd ammendment with F and F is failing and now Odinga and the Hilderbeast are proceeding to the 1st Amendment.

Tie these attacks on our embassy to 1st ammendment speech, locking down the internet and what they refer to right wing news outlets during the lame duck session.

Their back is to the wall on the election. Cause as much noise and confusion going into the lame duck session and all kinds of EOs/laws will be signed during the dark of night.


42 posted on 09/14/2012 11:46:46 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: bronxville
Has anyone else seen the trailer on you tube ?

I don't know how anyone found this and turned it into a justification for what we are going through right now. It is in English (Dude sounds like he's from California)and shot entirely on green screen. Even the sand is fake.

It has to be a set up. I usually don't give conspiracy theories any attention but there is NO way this "movie" is responsible.

Check it out.

43 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:13 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: bronxville

I don’t believe the film exist at all. Not in the context being driven by Obama drooling media.

This whole thing is a put up.

How is the Fags in Hammurabi land know about this before we do?

It is suppose to be Anti-Islam. Why wouldn’t we know about it 1st and them somewhere near last.


44 posted on 09/14/2012 11:55:44 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: TigersEye
So do you think this is about that UN Resolution 16/18? Or maybe this is their latest attempt to shut everybody up- attack the First Amendment?

That would explain why Hillary keeps insisting on blaming the movie.

We sure do live in crazy times.

45 posted on 09/14/2012 11:58:19 PM PDT by Pajamajan (Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: gleeaikin

The live video fan had lots of those student-types. They also appeared to be stage managed.


46 posted on 09/15/2012 12:07:30 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: Pajamajan
Oh, yeah! Check this out...

Muslim Brotherhood website demands that West criminalize ‘assaults’ on Islam

But do they really expect us to capitulate on that or is this just bait to suck us into more negotiations with them? We concede some more money, some more arms and some more Israeli land to them?

47 posted on 09/15/2012 12:08:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ArmstedFragg

“Feed”, not fan.


48 posted on 09/15/2012 12:08:35 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: bronxville

I’ve been reading Red Horizons, the story of Ceausescu’s time in Romania, and there’s quite a bit of game playing they were doing with the PLO as stooges. The Ruskies were also in on it. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them somehow involved in the fomenting of the riots.


49 posted on 09/15/2012 12:23:43 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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To: TigersEye
You know what's scary?
The left really doesn't get it.
It's right in front of them- what they've thrown in with,
but they don't see it.
They don't see it coming.

They don't even get it when their own people are butchered before their eyes.

Hillary referred to the ambassador as her friend.
He was murdered.
She's taking sides with the monsters who did it?
(apologize for hurting their feelings, blaming the supposed film, for whatever reason/scheme) If given 1/2 the chance- these demons would cut her head off, and use it as a soccer ball.

They've chosen sides with the devil.
They think they're going to control the devil.
It won't end well for them.

50 posted on 09/15/2012 1:12:44 AM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Do it today. Don't wait.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

It is “OBAMA’S ARAB SPRING”. It’s his baby that he aided and abetted to establish Muslim Brotherhood control. Hillary’s got her and Huma’s paws in this up to her elbows.


51 posted on 09/15/2012 2:21:02 AM PDT by Twinkie (In whose eyes a vile person is contemned. Ps. 15:4a)
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To: ecomcon

BINGO!


52 posted on 09/15/2012 3:03:22 AM PDT by Bullish (Barry's not fit to shine the shoes of a REAL President.)
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To: Daffynition

First I read that it was showed on Egyptian TV on 9/11, then elsewhere I read that it was shown on an Egyptian talk show either a month or a week before, depending on the reports. It had been floating around on the Internet for months before that. It’s hard to get the details straight.

In any case, it was clearly broadcast by the Egyptians themselves on their state-controlled television precisely to stir up trouble.

And somehow, nobody in the ME, no matter how poor, seems to have trouble getting a video-capable phone and some kind of internet connection.


53 posted on 09/15/2012 3:56:17 AM PDT by livius
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To: ecomcon
Is there any evidence of who posted the original at youtube? It is easy to create an account with a address that looks some one else’s. Who had access to the trailer? Was an undubbed copy ever posted on line? If it was any one could have dubbed and reposted it either under false account or if skilled enough hacking the original account
54 posted on 09/15/2012 4:48:07 AM PDT by airedale
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To: ArmstedFragg
I’ve been reading Red Horizons, the story of Ceausescu’s time in Romania, and there’s quite a bit of game playing they were doing with the PLO

Elaborate, please!

55 posted on 09/15/2012 4:57:22 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Daffynition
How did these dirt-poor Libyans *see* this film....most of them earn $2./day...what? They all have iPhones? ‘Net connections?

Per capita income in Libya is 20 times your estimate at over $14k, and Egypt is approximately ten times your estimate, at $6k a year. Those who want to provoke a mob certainly have the resources to do so, and almost everyone knows someone with a smart phone or at least an Internet capable phone. Libya is the wealthiest African country - because of their high oil production relative to their population.

This was almost certainly staged, possibly all the way back to producing the film, but poverty is not part of the evidence.

56 posted on 09/15/2012 4:57:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost

This was a set up.


57 posted on 09/15/2012 7:06:01 AM PDT by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: livius

Thanks for the info.:)


58 posted on 09/15/2012 7:14:53 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: gleeaikin; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks gleeaikin.
59 posted on 09/15/2012 9:26:44 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: submarinerswife

Ion Pacepa was the number two guy in Ceausescu’s Security apparatus. He devotes a lot of time to detailing how iron curtain countries were involved in activities all over the world. He has a lot of details on methods, false flag operations, etc. They were providing tech support to the PLO, and handing over confidential intelligence information that Jordan gave them, including details on the King’s protective detail during a period when the PLO was plotting to kill him. The PLO were, in turn, providing them with intelligence info on Israel. One of Ceausescu’s sources of revenue at the time was selling Israeli interests visas for Romanian Jews who wanted to leave.

What’s enlightening is all the plots and counterplots that the Romanians and Russians were involved in. They had their fingers in many pies. Red Horizons: Chronicles of a Communist Spy Chief is still available in paperback, Amazon has it at around seventeen bucks.


60 posted on 09/15/2012 10:01:16 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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