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Long-awaited WH report spells out deep sequestration cuts
Stars and Stripes ^ | Sept 14, 2012 | Leo Shane III

Posted on 09/14/2012 11:02:44 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar

WASHINGTON — The White House for the first time offered a detailed look at billions in automatic budget cuts scheduled for January, warning in a report released Friday that alternatives must be found to prevent the crippling of thousands of military and nondefense programs.

For the Defense Department, the scenario would mean roughly a 10 percent cut in military spending, except for personnel accounts. The report doesn't detail exactly what those lost dollars would mean in terms of lost programs or purchases, but does give a top-line view of the size of the cuts.

Defense Health programs would lose about $3.3 billion in funding. Army purchases of combat vehicles, weapons and ammunition would be trimmed by $505 million. The Navy would lose almost $4.4 billion in ship and aircraft procurement money.

The four services’ operations and maintenance accounts would be reduced by more than $18 billion combined.

The automatic cuts, also known as sequestration, were enacted by Congress last summer as part of a larger deficit-reduction plan.

In total, the spending curbs would take away $54.6 billion in planned military spending, the first installment on a 10-year deficit-reduction plan to reduce defense funds by about $500 billion.

The White House called it a potential disaster.

“The administration does not support the indiscriminate, across-the-board cuts in this report,” one senior administration official said. “We believe they should never be implemented.”

When Congress adopted the Budget Control Act, it included the sequestration cuts — more than $1 trillion in budget trims over the next decade, spread evenly between defense and nondefense accounts — as a poison pill designed to force a bipartisan deficit-reduction panel to find alternatives.

But that attempt to force compromise failed. For the last nine months, lawmakers and Pentagon leaders have decried the looming defense cuts as dangerous and nonsensical, but Congress has not been able to agree on an alternative.

The 394-page report released Friday lists hundreds of exempt spending accounts across the government — including all of the Department of Veterans Affairs — but White House officials have insisted that the law limits how much they can mitigate the effects of the automatic budget reductions.

“Sequestration is a blunt and indiscriminate instrument,” the report says. “It is not the responsible way for our nation to achieve deficit reduction.”

House Armed Services Committee officials criticized the report as lacking any real detail, failing to explain how individual programs and offices will be impacted.

They said the White House is dodging its responsibility to inform the public about how harmful the automatic cuts will be, and has failed to direct the Defense Department to properly prepare for a worst-case scenario.

On Thursday, House Republicans passed legislation calling for the president to replace the automatic defense cuts with nonmilitary trims. House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon, R-Calif., noted it was the fifth measure passed by the chamber this year aimed at preventing “devastating” cuts to national security programs.

“It is my sincere hope that this most recent action by the House will compel the President to finally do his part to end the sequestration crisis and bring his party in the Senate to a conference committee,” he said in a statement.

Like the previous House GOP proposals to avert sequestration, the measure is unlikely to gain traction in the Democratically controlled Senate. Obama and Capitol Hill Democrats have rejected proposals that would shift all of the automatic cuts onto domestic programs to save military accounts.

Meanwhile, defense contractors have begun warning employees that deep cuts to military funds in the middle of the fiscal year could jeopardize tens of thousands of jobs.

The Congressional Budget Office has warned that sequestration could result in massive layoffs among Defense Department civilian employees and lead to a new recession.

The exemption for military personnel accounts means that military paychecks won’t be affected by sequestration. Officials said that the Department of Defense would also be able to shift funds to ensure that operations in Afghanistan and “critical military readiness capabilities” will not be hurt.

But the report states that “sequestration would result in a reduction in readiness of many non-deployed units, delays in investments in new equipment and facilities, cutbacks in equipment repairs, declines in military research and development efforts, and reductions in base services for military families.”

Beyond the military, the report says sequestration would lead to a 2 percent reduction in funding for Medicaid and other domestic health programs, and an 8 percent cut in nonexempt, nondefense programs.

White House officials also noted the report offers only preliminary estimates, since operating budgets for every department have not been finalized by Congress.

Congress isn’t expected to act on any of those budgets — or alternatives to sequestration — until after the November elections.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: sequestration

1 posted on 09/14/2012 11:02:50 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Barry sure is making one hell of a mess for the next president to inherit.


2 posted on 09/14/2012 11:08:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The United States of America apologizing to knuckledragging, cavedwelling Neandethals. Whodda thunk!)
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To: Jet Jaguar
They are in a panic. Defense Contractors will need to layoff before the election if a deal isn't made.

Too funny

3 posted on 09/14/2012 11:08:47 PM PDT by scooby321 (AMS)
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To: RaceBannon; scoopscandal; 2Trievers; LoneGOPinCT; Rodney King; sorrisi; MrSparkys; monafelice; ...

This is going to affect Connecticut’s defense industry big time...


4 posted on 09/14/2012 11:11:22 PM PDT by nutmeg (I'm with Sarah Palin and Ted Cruz: "ABO"/Ryan 2012)
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To: Jet Jaguar; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”In total, the spending curbs would take away $54.6 billion in planned military spending, the first installment on a 10-year deficit-reduction plan to reduce defense funds by about $500 billion.

Saw on FNC Special report the cut for the first year would be $110B, half of that for Defense. So $55B cut out of a $1T defense budget, that's a 5% Cut. Is that slashing?

Obama got House Republicans to agree to completely exempting medicaid , entitlements and poverty programs from the cuts when THEY passed this bill.

5 posted on 09/14/2012 11:14:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: scooby321

If you read through all of the various reports...there could be in the range of 250k people in the DC area alone who would be made unemployed by sequestration. That includes both contractors and government workers (not just Pentagon folks, but all gov’t agencies). So you look at the DC region and wonder how 250k unemployed folks would take this situation.

There’s no fall-back position for the 250k in such a small area of the country. It would be one thing to determine a yearly cut of 12k employees over a decade, and an area could probably take that kind of news. In this case....I’d say a massive burden would fall upon DC, Virginia and Maryland. Bankers would get nervous over empty houses and bankruptcies.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 11:14:43 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Jet Jaguar

This is a trap, and Republicans should set it off. Not that there is much hope, but if we ever are to cut spending and back away from the road to Greece we can’t be hypocrites on defense. I know, I know, entitlements are the problem and the military is at least in the Constitution. Defends is however just another part og Big Government, and there’s plenty to drop.

You can’t very well look the electoratein the eye and say “Washington is spending like a sailor on Democratic programs, yes, now let me talk about that airforce base I built!”


7 posted on 09/14/2012 11:27:47 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: pepsionice

OBAMAS BUDGET 2011

When was the last time the Senate cast a unanimous vote on an issue of any substance? The only unamimous votes in the Senate’s 112th session have been to confirm judges or on honorary resolutions, and on a few amendments, and one bill to make it illegal to publish or copy images taken by the TSA from backscatter scanners. There has not been a single unanimous negative vote in the Senate this session — until now. Yesterday, the Senate rejected by a 0-97 vote the budget proposed by Barack Obama:

The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to reject a $3.7 trillion budget plan that President Obama sent to Capitol Hill in February.

Ninety-seven senators voted against a motion to take it up.

Democratic aides said ahead of the vote that the Democratic caucus would not support the plan because it has been supplanted by the deficit-reduction plan Obama outlined at a speech at George Washington University in April.

HOUSE BUDGET 2011

Just one day after Congress concluded its fight over this year’s spending, the House voted 235 to 193 to approve the fiscal blueprint for 2012 drafted by Representative Paul D. Ryan, Republican of Wisconsin and chairman of the Budget Committee. Besides reconfiguring the Medicare program that now serves those 65 and older, the proposal would cut the top corporate and personal income tax rates while also overhauling the Medicaid health program for the poor.

SENATE BUDGET 2011

No budget voted on per Senate Leader Harry Reid (DEMOCRAT) NV


8 posted on 09/14/2012 11:36:09 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 election.)
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To: pepsionice

You sound like a Democrat. The unemployment argument is the GM bailout argument, and it’s barely distinguishable from the medicine or dog food/pushing granny off a cliff argument. We’ll never cut anything at this rate.

Tell them they’ll have to take it like like the rest of us and find a new job. In most of their cases, find a job that’s actually useful for a change.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 11:36:25 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: nutmeg
This is going to affect Connecticut’s defense industry big time...

Not just Electric Boat in CT but in Virginia's ship yards and here in Charleston SC where Force Protection is located. My Husband works for a company that is doing vehicle modifications for Army and Marine vehicles. The contract that he is working on runs out in Oct.

Everyone is scared because they see what's coming. Obama would rather let these cuts happen so that he can blame it on the Republicans and because he doesn't give a damn about the military in the first place.

10 posted on 09/14/2012 11:38:15 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I know some will disagree but EVERY department should have to face sharp cuts and if it means scaling back military purchases and maybe close a few bases, so be it. There are a bunch of domestic cuts I’d like to make too, including scrapping a few agencies altogether, but we can survive with a few less bombers and missiles.

Everyone in the federal government should be prepared for some deep belt-tightening and that has to include the military.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 11:42:15 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: Tublecane; pepsionice

He’s telling it like it is, not to be mistaken for a Dem. There aren’t enough jobs to absorb this big of lay off if it is actually 250k in the DC/Virginia/Maryland area.

Once we look at these numbers as people, they have no where to go to support their families and keep their homes except on federal aid. A much bigger burden for the rest of us.

I can’t imagine the panic that this would cause my Husband and I if it weren’t for his military retirement as a fall back.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 11:45:03 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: OrangeHoof

I do not object to base closings. I do not not object to cuts on unneeded military programs.

What I object to is the Senate not voting on a budget for the past few years.

I would love to see programs like converting aircraft and naval vessels to (green) fuels that cost 200% more than JP-8 and diesel cut out all together.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 11:48:02 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 election.)
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To: nutmeg

Is this another piece of legislation that we don’t know what is *in* it, until it is passed and we *see*? There will be furloughs and planes colliding over Bradley Airport before the dust settles...anyone’s guess is as good as the next.


14 posted on 09/15/2012 12:14:13 AM PDT by Daffynition (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Boner and McCornhole will cave as usual. The Gelding Old Party has no stones. Willard does a lot of talking but his actions will be the last chance for the GOP to exist after 2014. A true second party “Spring” is just around the corner. Invest in guillotines.


15 posted on 09/15/2012 1:08:24 AM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: scooby321
Sequestration date is Jan 2, 2013. The WARN Act requires companies with more that 500 employees that intend to layoff employees to issue notifications 60 days before the layoffs occur. That would be November 2, 2012. Just in time to piss off a large number of voters just days before the election.
16 posted on 09/15/2012 1:14:44 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Jet Jaguar

“The White House called it a potential disaster.”

In what way could it possibly be worse than the current disaster?


17 posted on 09/15/2012 1:17:25 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny ("Insulting" Islam is as impossible as casting aspersions on a pile of dog crap.)
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To: OrangeHoof

If the bloated federal bureaucracy were a business, it would have to balance the books. A new CEO would be brought in to set the strategy and focus priorities around the strategy. Spending on ACLU activities not supporting the strategy would be immediately cut. No program would be immune from scrutiny.

There would also be across the board spending and payroll cuts. Typically a new CEO of a turnaround company will within the first week cut headcount across the board by at least 10% knowing the remaining employees will take up the slack. It is amazing when there are fewer people how many nonproductive paper pushing activities naturally go away when there are fewer bodies to do the work.

Another benefit of across the board head count costs is the least productive people are normally the ones cut. A department manager, told to cut one employee will automatically send packing the employee who walks into the office late everyday, chit chats on personal phone calls throughout the day, and races out of the office at 5:00 pm while others are slaving away.

Over the past three decades private industry has gone through waves of downsizing to become more efficient. Given the federal bureaucracy has continued to grow through that time it is ripe for significant reduction. Likely a 15% across the board reduction of head count could be implemented without having any real impact on services. Combine with a 10% reduction in non interest on the debt spending, and you’ve closed about 1/3 of the annual deficit with minimal effort. Then begin cutting entire departments who no longer have any purpose or whose missions can be accomplished by state and local government. Education, Labor, Commerce, Agriculture, HUD, and much of Health and Human Services can be eliminated or transitioned to the states within a year.

With respect to Defense we have to decide what it’s real mission is. Over the past 50 years the military has been an imperialist force intervening around the globe in wars at the whim of the President. On the whole these wars were conducted at great expense with little positive impact on the safety of the average citizen. Plus our huge military has allowed Europe and Japan to transfer most of their defense costs to the US taxpayer. Meanwhile, we’ve failed to implement a missile defense shield to truly protect the homeland from nuclear missiles and we have failed to protect the borders allowing millions of foreigners to invade and settle the homeland. If we take a hard look at the mission of our military, agree to stop intervening in the affairs of nations around the globe, and focus on defending the homeland, we can realize significant savings in defense spending while actually making our borders and our citizens more secure.

Unfortunately our political leaders have no will to prioritize goals and cut spending to levels required to support the essential activities. It is easy to see how this will play out. If Obama is reelected, he will blame the Republicans for not working cooperatively with him. The automatic cuts and tax increases will be implemented in January. Obama will implement the spending cuts in a way that will be most visible and painful to the people. He will go on a relentless PR campaign blaming the Republicans in Congress. After a few months, the Republicans will compromise, restoring the spending while leaving in the tax increases? The tax increases will slow the economy causing the Federal Reserve to print more money and Obama to demand more spending. If the Republicans don’t pass the new spending they will be blamed for the bad economy. Ultimately we will have hyperinflation followed by a financial collapse.

Same if Romney is reelected. At this point it is unlikely the Republicans will capture the Senate. Even if they do Harry Reid can filibuster to obstruct Romney’s agenda particularly tax reform. The Republican leadership will be afraid to cut spending during a recession. The deficit will continue to spiral out of control resulting in economic collapse.

At this point it seems economic collapse is inevitable within the first two years of the new President’s term. Is it better to reelect Obama and let the collapse happen on his watch? Or is it better to elect a liberal Republican and let conservative Republicans be falsely blamed?


18 posted on 09/15/2012 2:03:15 AM PDT by Soul of the South
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To: Soul of the South
Is it better to reelect Obama and let the collapse happen on his watch? Or is it better to elect a liberal Republican and let conservative Republicans be falsely blamed?

Blaming Republicans (or even Democrats) for the pending economic collapse is a matter of no importance at all.

The proper question is - who will be left to pick up the pieces, and how should they be put back together?

A Romney election will give us a little more time to prepare and fewer pieces to deal with.

An Obama election will immediately precipitate the disintegration of the country.

Rates of change are important. People can survive and recover from terrible shocks as long as they don't all come at once.

19 posted on 09/15/2012 2:33:28 AM PDT by flamberge (What next?)
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To: Jet Jaguar

“Yesterday, the Senate rejected by a 0-97 vote the budget proposed by Barack Obama”

I’d love to know if any other POTUS has been so thoroughly humiliated in a bipartisan fashion. Romney should run an ad on this, as it speaks to Obama’s incompetence and Congress’s unanimous views about it!


20 posted on 09/15/2012 3:05:15 AM PDT by DrC
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To: scooby321

Defense contractors are already laying off employees and have been doing so for some time. That is not necessarily a bad thing.


21 posted on 09/15/2012 3:10:42 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: p. henry
The spending cuts have already been eliminated. Sending ANY of our troops to hostile events WITHOUT ammunition, in my opinion, is insane. Incompetent bastards, all of them.
22 posted on 09/15/2012 3:16:17 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: sickoflibs

I know these budget numbers are off slightly, but...

The annual budget was roughly $660B in FY2012 ($55B/mo). FY2013 already has roughly $110B cuts built in, thanks to Panetta. For the first 3 months of FY2013, the spending will continue at $550B rate, so $135B will be spent by Jan. So there would be $415B left, but they must cut $55B, so $360B remains over 9 mos ($40B/mo).

FY2012 = $55B/mo
Jan 2013 = $40B/mo

If this math is correct, DoD/Intel is facing a 30% cut. No change in mission, according to BO yesterday. Also, cuts of this magnitude inherently distract from the missions, as organizations take time to adjust to the losses.

We’re all in favor of DoD/Intel taking its share of cuts, but the mission and the foreign policy must change in a rational way.

These are very dangerous. Enemies will do this math too.


23 posted on 09/15/2012 3:33:59 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: sickoflibs

Let me put it this way:

About seven years ago, my husband and I were broke. We weren’t even making it paycheck to paycheck. We were having to use credit cards to close the gap at the end of the month. Every month, we dug ourselves deeper.

We started Dave Ramsey. Now, on average, we were underwater by about 15%, so we had to slash our spending by that much.

Now imagine if I just said “we’re cutting 15% off of every expense.”

So we’re dropping groceries, fast food, the mortgage payment, our phone payments, our clothing budget by 15% each.

Well, that would be stupid. There are things that we could’ve cut by 100% (fast food) without any real issues. Clothes by 75%. Groceries by maybe 30%.

But if we only paid 85% of our mortgage, internet and phone bills - we’d have been out of a house. Those particular things had to remain fully funded.

It took me a full 6 months to find ALL of the ‘holes in our bucket’ and stop the leaks. (By then I was working on home-made cleaning products. Saving $3-5 here an there was worth it to me.)

Sequestration is exactly this scenario. Just slash 11% across the board with no rhyme or reason. No thought. It’s jaw-droppingly irresponsible.

IMHO, we could cut 25% of the military budget without compromising national security - with thoughtfulness and care.


24 posted on 09/15/2012 4:30:44 AM PDT by Marie ("The last time Democrats gloated this hard after a health care victory, they lost 60 House seats.")
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To: Tublecane

It will hurt like nothing we have ever seen. Unfortunately decades of compromise and inaction will require such hurt. I know it will effect my employment too. Like it or not, healthcare is a government job these days. If they allow this to happen, we can then get serious about fixing this. Forty seven percent of our legal population is on the dole, another large percent work for the government. Elections simply do nothing with these numbers in place. Any attempt to restore freedom and democracy is met by wars on women and elderly rhetoric. Unfortunately for us, this rhetoric is believable when the money keeps rolling in.


25 posted on 09/15/2012 4:45:24 AM PDT by momincombatboots (Back to West by G-d Virginia.)
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To: Tublecane

Yep, you got it right. The military is part of Big Government. We can get more bang for our buck on a well-trimmed military budget. They’re is a lot of waste. Cut the officer corp and get rid of all our excess general staff.


26 posted on 09/15/2012 4:52:56 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: OrangeHoof

Defense spending has been declining while domestic and entitlement spending is going up. Even with sequestration, the entitlemnt spending is actually MORE than it is now, while the defense spending again will be cut. I’m for rooting out the excesses in ALL, not just the selected few.


27 posted on 09/15/2012 4:59:22 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: submarinerswife

Not to mention California, Arizona, Pennsylvania, Washington state (think Boeing). And that doesn’t even account for the impact on the supply chain and smaller distributors in many other states. I’ll be looking for my notice on November 1st. I’m a little older and am prepared if it happens but many of my coworkers are not. What ticks me off the most is hearing yesterday that domestic program spending+entitlements actually goes UP, even with sequestration. We need the adults back in charge, pronto.


28 posted on 09/15/2012 5:05:00 AM PDT by SueRae (See it? Hell, I can TASTE November from my house!)
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To: Soul of the South

Agree that the Fed gov is seriously over staffed. While I would disagree with you on the Departments to be closed, feeling many of them were created for a reason that still exists, they still need to be downsized as mission creep has created many agencies that duplicate the activities best done in other Departments. Defense is over staffed somewhat, but many of the civilian agencies have much more excess staffing. I would take the equivalent in all agencies of how many Captains per PFC, and fire all administrators in excess of that number.

It seems everyone in a profession with Federal oversight has stories of how the agencies that oversees their profession could be streamlined, removed or otherwise improved.


29 posted on 09/15/2012 5:09:51 AM PDT by Fraxinus (My opinion, worth what you paid.)
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To: pepsionice

All I’ve got to say is, welcome to reality, five years later than the private sector.


30 posted on 09/15/2012 5:14:39 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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31 posted on 09/15/2012 6:10:37 AM PDT by randita
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To: submarinerswife; Tublecane; pepsionice

Tuble, can you believe these people? Here on Freeper.

My goodness, if were not for government employment think of all the people out of work and the devastation on the economy! Brilliant! So the solution to 8% unemployment is for the government to hire 5 million new people and watch the economy boom!


32 posted on 09/15/2012 6:12:36 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT (and we are still campaigning for local conservatives in central CT.)
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To: scooby321
They are in a panic. Defense Contractors will need to layoff before the election if a deal isn't made.

Titan/L3 is making large cuts now. It is affecting many of my friends and others in my area.

33 posted on 09/15/2012 6:29:31 AM PDT by OldMissileer
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To: Jet Jaguar

How about “everbody does their fair share”; 10 % cuts in welfare, unemployment, foodstamps, etc.?


34 posted on 09/15/2012 6:39:42 AM PDT by csmusaret (I will give Obama credit for one thing- he is living proof that familiarity breeds contempt.)
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To: sickoflibs
So $55B cut out of a $1T defense budget...

When has the Defense budget ever hit one trillion dollars?

35 posted on 09/15/2012 7:44:15 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Soul of the South

No, I’m not going to let the country collapse just so we can blame Obama for it. I have more confidence than you that the GOP will win the Senate and, with control of the House, Senate and White House, and with Paul Ryan’s leadership, the GOP may yet grow the backbone to do what’s right. It’s our only hope.

The problem with your analysis is that you concede the collapse is already inevitable and want to affix the blame. I think with a strong national will, it can be saved and if Republicans control all three houses, there’s a chance it can happen.

Regardless of who is in control, America won’t be worth saving if it is allowed to collapse. You might as well just move to another country now.


36 posted on 09/15/2012 9:26:29 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: submarinerswife

“There aren’t enough jobs to absorb this big of a layoff”

There haven’t been enough jobs to absorb private sector layoffs over the last four or five years. Why are defense bureaucrats different? The only way I see to provide enough jobs to recover the economy of just a few years ago is to cut government’s bite, which if I had it my way would be to cut entitlements first. But if defense can’t lose 50 billion we might as well give up now.


38 posted on 09/15/2012 4:23:26 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: OrangeHoof

I ‘m not confident collapse can be avoided by the best of Republicans. But I know for an absolute fact they won’t if we let the defense card be a trump for Democrats.


39 posted on 09/15/2012 4:28:28 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Marie
RE :”Sequestration is exactly this scenario. Just slash 11% across the board with no rhyme or reason. No thought. It’s jaw-droppingly irresponsible.
IMHO, we could cut 25% of the military budget without compromising national security - with thoughtfulness and care.

I think you have a valid point on that but this is the way that BOTH parties chose to cut spending, not the rational way.

At the time the BCA was passed last year Ryan praised it, and I mean really praised it on TV so we would think it was great. There was no talk by him of those reservations. He told the American people it was a ‘Historical Moment’ on his house floor speech.

Now after him helping putting a gun to the puppy's head with a timer he says “Obama put the gun to his head and is going the pull the trigger so vote for us so we can stop it”

Actually he says Obama is GOING to make those cuts that were already passed in a bill he supported and voted for. And anyone can see it, it;s on youtube. It's just too obvious,

40 posted on 09/15/2012 7:12:10 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: ReaganGeneration2; Gilbo_3
RE :”The annual budget was roughly $660B in FY2012 ($55B/mo).

I have never seen a figure as low as that.

Below is the US government website that says military spending Fy12 was $902B. But maybe what you are getting at is that the subset of that called ‘Military Defense’ is lower at $716B and that is the only part of the 902B that is being cut. I know the VA benefits $129B are exempt.

usgovernmentspending.com US Defense Spending

41 posted on 09/15/2012 7:22:17 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

Thanks for the correction and clarification!


42 posted on 09/16/2012 6:09:42 PM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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