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Iran commander: 'Nothing will remain' of Israel if it takes military action
Fox News ^ | 9/16/12

Posted on 09/16/2012 5:22:02 AM PDT by Libloather

Iran commander: 'Nothing will remain' of Israel if it takes military action
Published September 16, 2012
Associated Press

TEHRAN – The top commander in Iran's powerful Revolutionary Guard warned Sunday that "nothing will remain" of Israel if it takes military action against Tehran over its controversial nuclear program.

Gen. Mohammad Ali Jafari said Iran's response to any attack will begin near the Israeli border. The Islamic Republic has close ties with militants in Gaza and Lebanon, both of which border Israel.

Iran has in the past made reference to the destruction of Israel but his comments at a Tehran news conference were unusually strongly worded and detailed.

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KEYWORDS: commander; iran; israel; military
He also said that Iran warned that oil shipments through the strategic Strait of Hormuz will be in jeopardy if a war breaks out between Iran and the United States. Iranian officials have previously threatened to close the waterway, the route for a fifth of the world's oil, but less frequently in recent months.

Isn't this a golf day for Hussein?

1 posted on 09/16/2012 5:22:07 AM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

One button take care of all of this. One bright flash ends it.

And it doesnt even take a big one to end it.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 5:27:40 AM PDT by crz
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To: Libloather

“He also said that Iran warned that oil shipments through the strategic Strait of Hormuz will be in jeopardy if a war breaks out between Iran and the United States.”

I’ve read that Iran has 30-70 thousand mines ready to deploy. There are two ways of disposing of mines. You can sweep for them or hunt for them. Both are slow and only give you some probability that you’ve destroyed the mines. In actuality, some will still be there. The only way to keep the straights open is to destroy the mines while they are still in their warehouses. I can’t see Obama authorizing such a bombing.

Incidentally, the Navy has moved virtually all of its mine sweeping and hunting capability to the area. But sweepers and hunters can only work if the Iranian side of the straight has been neutralized. Otherwise, the sweepers and hunters will be killed in short order.

If the straights are closed, sure the cost of gas will go up, but nobody here will starve. In the rest of the world starvation will be the norm. That, in my opinion, is why America has been keeping the lid on the middle east for the last 50 years.


3 posted on 09/16/2012 5:33:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Libloather

He’s not exactly right - 1/6th of Iran (”Persia”) will remain. Israel will be fine. In fact Israel will have seven years of employment burying their dead enemies after the massacre.


4 posted on 09/16/2012 5:36:44 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Libloather

They are good at the terrorist game but horrendous at the military one. As the worlds biggest state-sponsored terrorist govgernment I would almost welcome a conflict where I know they will get their terror sponsoring arse handed to them and be lucky to be alive after.


5 posted on 09/16/2012 5:40:58 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: ICE-FLYER

You are correct.

When the war actually comes to their land, surrogates will be of no value.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 5:43:40 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: Libloather
"nothing will remain

Wanna bet?

7 posted on 09/16/2012 5:46:32 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Libloather
A message for General Mohammad Ali Jafari:


Don't talk smack to a nation that has ALREADY built a decisive nuclear arsenal.
8 posted on 09/16/2012 5:50:34 AM PDT by mkjessup (Jimmy Carter is the Skidmark in America's panties, 0bama is the yellow stain in front!)
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To: Libloather
Hey raghead, Israel lives as much in America as in Israel.

What makes you think, even if we do nothing in retaliation for your murderous act, that American Jews would not rally and go re-inhabit their land?

What makes you think that you can take US out as well to prevent that?

Every king that goeth to war must first count the cost ... you old camel humpin' fart.

The only thing good I ever got from oreilly is the word and concept of .. bloviate

9 posted on 09/16/2012 5:53:17 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Gen.Blather

Destroying all their mine laying ships would help too.


10 posted on 09/16/2012 5:53:36 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Libloather

Yeah, yeah little buddy Iran commander... Remember your “buddy” Saddam Hussein and his guys? Yeah, those dead men? They said the same thing about what would happen if the USA took military action against them. Where are they now? Dead. And we are supposed to not laugh when you blotivate like this?


11 posted on 09/16/2012 6:04:19 AM PDT by JimSp
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To: crz

Bravado for sure. I’d suggest that Iran stock up on 50,000 SPF if they actually start some sh!t with Israel. They have been backed as far into a corner as one can get - they will not let it happen again.


12 posted on 09/16/2012 6:05:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: PapaNew

You nailed it. We are about to see God in action as prophesied long ago. Sobering but exciting times to live in.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 6:11:41 AM PDT by Mom MD (T he country needs Obamacare like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask)
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To: Farmer Dean

“Destroying all their mine laying ships would help too.”

For the most part, Iranians use fishing boats. Which ones of the many thousand would you hit? (Given the despotic nature of Islam, it would have to be all of them.) Rubber rafts would do the job too.


14 posted on 09/16/2012 6:26:55 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Libloather

On the slightest provocation, we need to wipe out Iran’s strategic nuclear assets, as well as the bulk of its convention military assets, using a mix of cruise missiles, deep penetration aircraft, (off-shore) conventional forces, and covert agents. The idea is to do the deed all at once, before world opinion gets mobilized to stop it. The opposite idea is incrementalism. An example would be an attack on Kuwait, a “Major Non-NATO Ally,” which Iran has threatened. We don’t need no stinkin’ UN resolution to respond to an attack on an ally.


15 posted on 09/16/2012 6:29:29 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: Libloather
Iran commander: 'Nothing will remain' of Israel if it takes military action

From your lips, baby, to God's ears. This will have been one of the greatest of ironical statements. Too bad he won't be around to appreciate it.
16 posted on 09/16/2012 6:30:57 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan
From your lips, baby, to God's ears. This will have been one of the greatest of ironical statements. Too bad he won't be around to appreciate it.

Sorry, commander, I thought you said "if" and not "of" the first time. Well, anyway, you still won't be around to appreciate the aftermath. You'll be lucky if all you have left is a camel, a tent, and the light of the moon.
17 posted on 09/16/2012 6:33:50 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: Libloather

Too bad the so called moderate faction of the Iranian people won’t depose these insane leaders. You would think they would know the consequences.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 6:33:53 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: Libloather

The top commander in Iran’s powerful Revolutionary Guard

I gotta laugh. It took this powerful guard 10 years to fight Iraq too a draw.


19 posted on 09/16/2012 6:49:46 AM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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To: catfish1957

The moderate West-leaning Iranians aren’t in the driver’s seat. Mohammed Fatso Jafari & his Revvie Guards call the shots. And they pray to a hole in the ground (look it up).


20 posted on 09/16/2012 6:50:15 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Free speech is more important than Islam.")
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To: Libloather

Why we don’t arm the opposition there is a question I’d like someone to answer.


21 posted on 09/16/2012 6:56:45 AM PDT by elhombrelibre ("I'd rather be ruled by the Tea Party than the Democratic Party." Norman Podhoretz)
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To: Mom MD
exciting times to live in

Yes, especially when you realize that this event triggers the prophetic turning of Israel back to the Lord and to Jesus Christ (Ezekiel 39:22). This is in turn amazing because Israel's return to the Lord also indicates, I believe, the beginning of the seven-year "day of vengeance" (the seven year tribulation of the "wrath of the lamb") (Revelation 6:16-7:17). (Note that Israel will be burning the aftermath of the massacre for seven years (Ez 39:9).) This also triggers the amazing event of Jesus, "as a thief," taking His Church (us) up to Heaven where from the Heavenly Mezzanine, in between servings of the marriage of the Lamb feast celebration, we'll be watch the earth-shaking events of Matthew 24 and Revelation unfold (Rev 19:7). Very exciting.

It's not a matter of if but when. As you know, no one knows exactly when that will be, but we should know "the tines and the seasons" (1 Thess. 5:1-6) which I believe we are in. He's coming very soon. Hallelujah!

22 posted on 09/16/2012 6:59:42 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Redmen4ever
“The idea is to do the deed all at once.......”

Unfortunately, there's no “we” in this equation with Jarret/Soros and the telepromter reading, pecker puffing, son of a communist bitch & muslim goat herder at the helm.

There's no way Israel(alone) has the assets to neutralize Iran by conventional means. Not to mention the consequences if they try.......How many neo Jihad-Jerk nations and their allies will descend upon Israel?

Israel will have no choice but to go nuclear if the many nations of Islam roll towards Her (I wouldn't count Egypt out). What happens if Russia gets involved?

A farkin mess brought to you buy idiot American voters and a criminal U.S. “press” corpse

23 posted on 09/16/2012 7:28:31 AM PDT by Electric Graffiti (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of their Moonbats)
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To: Electric Graffiti

you have to thank Obama for adding to this....
I see the issue from a different perspective.

Why doesn’t someone just say he plays for the other side?

Or better yet, he already knows exactly what is in the tube?

This arab spring thing is just one of Obama’s orchestrated, choreographed and conducted projects in building and consolidating his North African caliphate. Being muslim, he knows exactly what he is doing, and at America’s expense. As a result , we have a Ghazi operating in our White House.
Too many people are blind to this.

Strategically, his goal was to encapsulate Israel. Soon they will take a run at it and if they find it easy going, then they will take another run at America.

Worst part? Obama has a penchant for dictators and “rulers” and the alien/muslim feels the same should be for America. It will be a bitch prying his ass from the White House. I believe he will attempt to hang on to power at any cost.

Obama’s strategy is not pro American, rather the exact opposite/

A weak America strips the world of stability, leadership, prosperity and success for all. Instability will inject endless war, poverty and suffering.


24 posted on 09/16/2012 7:44:40 AM PDT by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: Electric Graffiti

I presume Israel has stockpiles of weapons-grade nuclear material and of the devices, such that it can load the devices and get them into the air on short notice.

Should Israel be attacked with a nuclear weapon, the restraints of the Nuclear Non-proliferation treaty are bye bye (this is right in the treaty). This would mean Israel or any ally of Israel could, without authorization of the UN Security Council, retaliate with nuclear weapons (and/or in any other way it deems fit).

I doubt Obama would join in a retaliation. He’d hem and haw and try to find some way to nuance the thing.

I really don’t know what Romney would do. But, there’s a chance he’d be more decisive.

The real advantage of the U.S. joining in is that we have such an enormous stockpile of nuclear weapons, as well as other weapons, that we could make sure the war over very quickly and in a way that would dissuade others from joining in.

In other words, after 10,000 years or so, Iran could be used for a giant skating rink.

Now, as to preventing a first strike, no matter that we said we might use nuclear weapons first in a defense of Europe, no, I don’t think we would have, and I certainly don’t think we would with respect to Iran.

But, we have plenty of options short of nuclear weapons for inflicting enormous damage on Iran, given a sufficient provocation, so as to cripple their nuclear program.

Given the failure of sanctions, this is our military option.

Our role in the security of the world is vastly different from anybody else’s. We have the strategic role. We have to preclude any country from even thinking about starting a war.

This is what “peace through strength” means.

And, this is why we should not become “decisively engaged” in regional wars. In 2000, as a candidate, George W. Bush understood this. However, he violated this position when he got us into re-constructing Afghanistan and Iraq. We, and the peace of the world, are worse off for Bush violating the position he himself stated as a candidate. We need to return to “peace through strength.”


25 posted on 09/16/2012 7:49:09 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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To: ICE-FLYER

Probably not a good idea to continually threaten somebody who has the means to destroy you AND has had plenty of time to give the retaliation strategy lots of thought and preparation. LOL


26 posted on 09/16/2012 7:57:44 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: chainsaw

That was 32 years ago. It was also just as the islamic revolution happened and if you read about Iran you would know that the majority of their military were exiled or in jail or deserted. On top of that Iraq was supported militarily and economically by US and the UK and our masters Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Sunni countries. It is silly to make fun of an enemy and beat your chest and take them for granted. Hezbollah, which should be nothing really as they have no armor or air force, embarassed israel a few years ago.
Underestimating our enemy is the first step in suffering a big loss.


27 posted on 09/16/2012 8:03:22 AM PDT by hannibaal
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To: himno hero

I believe he will attempt to hang on to power at any cost.
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Agree. We’ve already seen ample evidence that he has no regard for the Constitution and circumvents the congress at will (e.g., the Libyan “kinetic” action). He clearly has a messianic complex that could well manifest itself in an unprecedented power grab. And why not? He can always count of a sympathic media to back him.

I also agree with your statement about his strategic goal of encapsulating Israel. Getting more obvious by the day.


28 posted on 09/16/2012 8:10:48 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Gaffer

they will not let it happen again.

I agree. Israel is not a political correct entity. You mess with them and you can be assured they will react swiftly.
Case in point...the 7 day war with Egypt a few years ago.


29 posted on 09/17/2012 8:19:43 PM PDT by chainsaw ("Two ways to conquer and enslave a nation. One is by the sword. The other is by debt.")
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