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Run a McCain style presidential campaign..get a McCain presidential result.....vanity discussion

Posted on 09/16/2012 8:15:35 AM PDT by teg_76

While i do believe that most polls are over sampling democrats, i think it's clear Romney would lose if the election were held today...Rasmussen has him up only one but the swing state picture is much worse when you look at the individual states...especially Ohio. We are kiddig ourselves if we think were going to match the 2010 turnout model with Obama at the top of the ticket. It will probably be somewhere between 2008 and 2010.

The only time Romney made progress in the polls was when he added Ryan to the ticket. THats the one of the few times he has sowed any guts in this campaign.....

Mitt, unshackle Ryan and start attaking Obama hard, because if you continue this McCain style campaign you are headed for the same result.

he addedRyan to the ticke.


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KEYWORDS: 2012; completenonsense; emotionbasedranting; ignorance; obama; romney; ryan; vanity; wasteofbandwith
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1 posted on 09/16/2012 8:15:40 AM PDT by teg_76
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ok, thanks.

Your concern troll has been noted.


2 posted on 09/16/2012 8:19:31 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: teg_76

There needs to be a three prong attack! Attack the Obama, his policies and the leftist media. In other words, stick a fork in them!


3 posted on 09/16/2012 8:20:00 AM PDT by stocksthatgoup (Wealth = Net Worth ///// Income = Net Work)
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To: teg_76
I wonder if the McCain/Romney/GOPe/RINO cabal is attempting to "take one for the team" and get the Tea Party relegated to the sidelines?

Think about this, McCain picks Palin and loses (no fault of Palin) and Romney picks Ryan, and is literally snatching defeat from the jaws of victory,by doing absolutely nothing to win?

The sign I am looking for, and hoping for, is that one of the "surprises" R2 makes, is to get Palin and the TP fired up to act? If Palin endorses late in the game, it would solidify millions of voters to act/move.

Waiting and wondering...

Thoughts?

4 posted on 09/16/2012 8:21:04 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: teg_76
Mitt, unshackle Ryan and start attaking Obama hard, because if you continue this McCain style campaign you are headed for the same result.

You are correct!
5 posted on 09/16/2012 8:21:27 AM PDT by vet7279
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To: teg_76

Romney needs to lose the yes men and listen to the conservatives who don’t like him. He’ll be a better candidate if he does. This race shouldn’t be close.

Conservatism works when tried.


6 posted on 09/16/2012 8:21:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: VanDeKoik

Keep kidding yourself....were u the same poster on fr that said obamacare would go down on a 9-0 decision? Wake up! Having blinders on isnt helpful...i bet everybody u know is voting for Romney..with that scientific piece of evidence he must be a lock...


7 posted on 09/16/2012 8:24:42 AM PDT by teg_76
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature
There is not much that can happen to get me "fired up" over romney. We know who and what he is and there is little that will change that image. I have very little expectation that anything more than the superficial will change even if he get into office.
Having said all that, he is getting my anti-obama vote with little or no expectation of dramatic results.

8 posted on 09/16/2012 8:25:23 AM PDT by vet7279
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Mitt has to take the gloves off (like he did to his Republican opponents). I don’t think this will cost him any votes from independents. They already know the country’s in deep trouble and would probably welcome some aggressive tactics and bold moves.


9 posted on 09/16/2012 8:25:40 AM PDT by Starboard
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Mindlessly believe massively biases media polls, ignore the serious polls, get threads like this one.


10 posted on 09/16/2012 8:26:20 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: teg_76

Does anyone REALLY believe a north eastern liberal like Romney will do anything as President but delay the inevitable ?

They ALL know their socialist experiment will collapse the economy.

Obama/Soetoro lusts to make it happen ASAP

Romney can do nothing to stop it, only delay it by tweaking socialist “free” programs not devolving them all to the States as the Constitution requires.

So, pick your poison.


11 posted on 09/16/2012 8:26:27 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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The first debate will show how he has decided to drive for the prize. If he doesn’t leverage all the ammo that has been handed to him during the first debate we can give him more advice. He seems to be setting the stage with some pre-debate comments 9Obama tends to say things that aren’t true, etc.) and he might surprise a bunch of us. I also can’t wait to see Ryan face off with Biden - “Joe, let’s call this thing off; I feel a bit guilty engaging in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent...”


12 posted on 09/16/2012 8:26:43 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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Ryan is merely a GOP-E bromide for the tea party to ensure their vote. All the usual suspects of liberal-moderate republicans are whispering in Mitt’s willing ear to reach out to (disaffected) liberals. They are his people.


13 posted on 09/16/2012 8:29:58 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Conservatism didn't magically show up in Romney's heart in 2012. You can't force what isn't in you.)
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To: vet7279

Having said all that, he is getting my anti-obama vote with little or no expectation of dramatic results.
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I do think the economy would improve significantly under Mitt. But agree with you about not expectating much else in the way of dramatic results.

At this point, however, we are in a sinking ship about to capsize and we’ll all drown if we don’t at least stop the leaks, replace the “captain”, and right the ship. If we can accomplish that we have a chance to make it into port for another voyage.


14 posted on 09/16/2012 8:35:01 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: teg_76

Say... has anyone seen both Romney and McCain together at the same time any place live? Hmmm... more than coincidence?


15 posted on 09/16/2012 8:36:37 AM PDT by pabianice (washington, dc ..)
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See post 7...and by the way..Rass has us losing in VA and OH...do some math...


16 posted on 09/16/2012 8:38:58 AM PDT by teg_76
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To: VanDeKoik

Why must everyone who doesn’t view things the way you do be a troll... this is a legit concern, if Romney can’t put this thing over the top we are f’ed, and it does appear that the fight is not in his belly, likely for fear and probably lack of conviction. On the other hand, Paul Ryan is a totally different story, he’s got wit, charm and cuts to the quick on issues of eminent concern, so much so that it leaves Obama with indignant-indigestion.


17 posted on 09/16/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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No. But thanks for asking all the same!

And I’m sure you must, because you sit around all day watching CNN and CBS, think that everyone love Obama, hates Romney, and cant wait to give him 4 more years.

Then you show up here emoting all over the site in some blind panic looking for similar people sitting on their butts all day watching MSM programming to cry with.

Last time I remember that moronic display was during the Wisconsin recall.


18 posted on 09/16/2012 8:39:05 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

“A native of Jackson, Mississippi, Stewart Stevens is a veteran of American political campaigns at the highest levels. In addition to his work for Gov. Romney, he has also worked in the presidential campaigns of Bob Dole, George W. Bush, and John McCain.”

Stewart Stevens managed the losing campaigns of McLame and Dole so now Romney expects to win?

http://pcfna.org/pembrokian/?p=155


19 posted on 09/16/2012 8:39:24 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Obama has run a personally negative campaign on Romney coloring him as a tax evader with offshore accounts, greedy, and uncaring about people. Basically Obama has no record to run on and the surprising thing is he has temporarily with the help of the MSM changed this from a referendum on a dismally performing incumbent to a choice between two personalities.Romney needs to go negative by saturating the airwaves that the economy is abysmal and at the fail point because of one person - Obama and here are the reasons why he has brought it to the fail point. He needs to stay with that message so Obama cannot foist this thing back to Bush. Eventually it will sink in.


20 posted on 09/16/2012 8:39:26 AM PDT by chuckee (like)
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