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Can Republicans Talk? (Sowell on speaking out on issues)
Creators Syndicate ^ | September 18, 2012 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 09/17/2012 11:15:49 AM PDT by jazusamo

The first time I saw Chris Christie on television, shortly after he became governor of New Jersey, my immediate reaction was, "My Gosh! A Talking Republican!" It was almost like seeing a talking giraffe or a talking salamander.

Technically speaking, Republicans do talk, but talking is definitely not their strong suit. Nor do they seem to have put a lot of thought into what they say or how they say it. The net result is that articulate Democrats can get away with the biggest lies, without any serious rebuttal from most Republicans.

I have not heard any Republican official or candidate even try to answer a standard claim of the Democrats, that "deregulation" is the reason the housing market went haywire and brought down the economy. Therefore, according to the Democrats, Republicans who want to restore a free market are just trying to "go back to the same policies that got us into this mess in the first place."

That sounds very persuasive, if you don't know the facts — and it sounds like pure hogwash if you do.

But facts don't speak for themselves. And if we wait for the Republicans to speak, the whole country can be in big trouble.

The "deregulation" gambit is not new. It was tried out years ago, in California, when some of the most heavy-handed regulation of the electrical utility companies forced them to charge less for electricity than they had to pay to buy it. After this led to their financial collapse, and then to power failures and blackouts that outraged the public, the Democrats' response was that this was all due to — you guessed it — "deregulation."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chrischristie; communication; greatcommunicator; newjersey; sowell; thomassowell
Thomas Sowell website: "Tax Cuts" ("Trickle Down" Theory and "Tax Cuts for the Rich" pdf
1 posted on 09/17/2012 11:15:56 AM PDT by jazusamo
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2 posted on 09/17/2012 11:18:12 AM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Romney is starting to sound like he’s lobotomized himself.

If a Republican makes statements that are so bland and boring TV viewers rush to hit their remotes to zap him out, does he really make a sound?


3 posted on 09/17/2012 11:29:07 AM PDT by Bluestocking
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To: jazusamo
Why lose to a lie because you didn't bother to explain the truth?

     - Thomas Sowell

Dang, I love Dr. Sowell's clarity!

4 posted on 09/17/2012 11:35:20 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: jazusamo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJq8OYEl0


5 posted on 09/17/2012 11:38:31 AM PDT by chicken head
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To: TChris

Super BINGO!

I’m not that critical of Romney, but in general I concluded long ago most republicans don’t understand this stuff, and don’t care. They are just phonies who say the bare minimum they think republicans are supposed to say to get elected.


6 posted on 09/17/2012 11:40:56 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba (No Obama, no way!)
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To: Andrei Bulba

Ronald Reagan DID know how to communicate, and look what it did. (R) WIN IN A HUGE LANDSLIDE!


7 posted on 09/17/2012 11:44:22 AM PDT by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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To: jazusamo

IIRC Romney’s advisors are the same, or some of them are the same that were sent in allegedly as first string for McCain back in 2008.

I believe Romney needs some advisers that actually want to win this thing.

Thanks for the ping jaz.


8 posted on 09/17/2012 11:53:22 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: jazusamo

This is pure Sowell. I’ve sent it to my Congressman and Senator (only Rubio- not Nelson!).

ALL of us would be well served to send this to our GOP government officials. Then call and ask if they’ve read it yet. Next week, call again...


9 posted on 09/17/2012 11:54:53 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: All
40 minute video:

Thomas Sowell discusses his essay “‘Trickle Down Theory’ and ‘Tax Cuts for the Rich.’” with Peter Robinson of Uncommon Knowledge.

10 posted on 09/17/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: Bluestocking; TChris; chicken head; Andrei Bulba; rockinqsranch; SE Mom

Ping to post #10.


11 posted on 09/17/2012 12:07:49 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
One consequence of Republicans’ inability “to talk”...

If Thomas Sowell ran for president, he couldn't get 10% of the Black vote.

That's because Black Americans - just like Hispanic Americans - don't vote skin color.

They vote their Hard Left political principles.

But when’s the last time you heard a serious GOP presidential candidate talk about that?

Probably never.

Most Republican candidates can't talk because they don't really believe in Conservative principles.

Compare that to the Democratic Party leadership which is - literally - animated by their passion for Hard Left principles.

Margaret Thatcher - where are you when we need you?

12 posted on 09/17/2012 12:11:36 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Bluestocking

I think Ryan is a Talking conservative and all the Talking conservatives better hang together .


13 posted on 09/17/2012 12:19:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: jazusamo

He makes a great point, but I can see the Republicans’ side of this as well. If they attempt to refute the
Demwits’ lies, the Mendacious Stream Media simply screams bloody murder until they shut up again.

With the press, even our so-called “conservative” press, totally or “partially” in the tank for the left, it
has to look pretty futile to our guys.

Their word just doesn’t get out. The people who depend on the alphabet networks for the news will
never hear a word of the truth.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Bluestocking

Romney is turning into McCain, it was pretty predictable


15 posted on 09/17/2012 12:24:34 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: zeestephen; All
Well said, totally agree. The black community for the most part does not agree with Thomas Sowell’s outlook about hard work, getting off the dole and other conservative issues for the very point you made, they're hard left.

I've only listened to the first 10 minutes of the 40 minute video linked at post #10, so far it's excellent. He's spoken on some current issues and some on the Obama’s and Bill Clinton.

16 posted on 09/17/2012 12:28:50 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Another good article.


17 posted on 09/17/2012 12:32:18 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: TheOldLady
A good point, TOL. The enemedia will back Obama 100% of the time, look what they tried to do on Romney speaking out about the ME fiasco. Romney didn't jump the gun, it was ten hours or so that Obama had lock jaw.
18 posted on 09/17/2012 12:33:30 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

a talking giraffe...heheheh...


19 posted on 09/17/2012 1:02:34 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: jazusamo
The good Dr. Sowell is looking in the wrong place for an intelligent conversation. Don't try to talk with a Republican, go find a conservative.
20 posted on 09/17/2012 1:12:36 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: Bluestocking

I would like to comment the Romney message ... it’s sufferes from the same weak sauce syndrome we usually get from RINOs.

Campaigns could always do better. Romney’s message doesn’t need to be complicated, but it does need to be sharper:
1 Obama is a failed President and our economy is doing terribly.
2. Our lousy economy is a direct result of his bad jobkilling policies
3. I, Mitt Romney, will turn the economy and our country around with better policies and ideas

Clearly, there is a lot of real evidence on #1, and the messaging is
fine there. And on #3, I find the Obama campaign insistence on more
‘details’ from Romney (ie find more grist for their attacks) amazing in
that Obama has made his own campaign one about nothing - with a dash of
recycled borken promises thrown in.

Where Romney is weakest is #2. How many ads has Romney cut that point
out the 20 tax hikes in Obamacare, and point out the specific jobs lost
in the medical device industry because of the medical device tax? How
many speeches has Romney given that argue articulately for the
job-killing nature of the Obama policies, with the specifics lined up?
I’ve seen Santorum argue that, I’ve seen Newt argue that ... but Romney?

The bane of the weak moderate Republicans from GHWBush on down has
been their reluctance to ARGUE ideologically and MAKE THE CASE for
conservative policies as superior to liberal ones. This is where #2
comes in; this is why picking Paul Ryan was an exciting pick for
conservatives. “Aha!” we thought, “Someone who can articulate
conservatism!” And so Ryan has. But it hasnt permeated the whole
campaign and the ads are thin, weak, and to this conservative, often
off-key (like the claims about cutting defense spending being bad
because of lost jobs. Gack! That’s porkbarrel talk; we spend on defense
for national security, not as a jobs program.)

Romney needs to sharpen the argument and tie Obama’s egregious
taxing, spending and regulating, his killing of Keystone and his oil
drillign moratorium, etc.
to our 8% unemplyoment and worst recovery
since WWII. Bring sepcifics to bear to show how Obama’s policies have
killed jobs and hurt the economy. He needs a direct and correct rebuttal
to the misleading claims in the Clinton speech and out of the DNC. What
Romney camp fail to notice is that convention bounces disappear if the
arguments behind them are deflated.

It is not enough to say “Things are bad” since Obama has come back
with “Things are bad, but I care and the other guy is a rerun of what
got us in the mess.”
Where is Romney’s response? It’s as if lies
about Romney are left UN-answered and that’s enough. Obama treats voters
as too dumb and Romney as them being too smart.

Romney needs the 1,2,3 puch:
1. Thing are bad. 2. Obama is to blame, here is why. 3. I can fix, here is how.
If Mitt Romney gets 55% of voters to agree to that message, he wins BIG.


21 posted on 09/17/2012 1:22:08 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks!


22 posted on 09/17/2012 1:23:30 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: TheOldLady; jazusamo

” He makes a great point, but I can see the Republicans’ side of this as well. If they attempt to refute the
Demwits’ lies, the Mendacious Stream Media simply screams bloody murder until they shut up again.”

Think back to when Reagan ran. The press loathed Reagan, and were determined to crush him. The problem was that Reagan spoke the truth, and even with a blowhard press attacking him, the people still got a chance to hear Reagan, and he won. We will not win just because the economy is in the tank. People need a reason to vote the SOB Obama out, or we cannot count on them showing up to vote. Romney must take his case to the people, the MSM be damned!


23 posted on 09/17/2012 2:11:35 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: jazusamo

Indeed. I agreed with Romney completely, and the way the leftist media tried to
twist and then criticize his statement is typical behavior for them. They disgust me.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 2:15:02 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: jazusamo
Who knows what threats get made behind the scenes? The higher a Republican rises, the more timid he seems to get when advocating Constitutional government.

On the other hand, they are quite tough when the subject is Todd Akin or Sarah Palin or Michelle Bachmann. :)

25 posted on 09/17/2012 2:15:31 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: WOSG
Campaigns could always do better. Romney’s message doesn’t need to be complicated, but it does need to be sharper:
  1. Obama is a failed President and our economy is doing terribly.
  2. Our lousy economy is a direct result of his and Harry Reid’s bad jobkilling policies
  3. I, Mitt Romney, will turn the economy and our country around with better policies and ideas
It took Pelosi, Reid, and Obama to create the mess we’re in - and it wasn’t done only in ’09 and ’10, but in ’07 and ’08 as well, and some of the seeds were planted as far back as the Carter Administration - and some of it was done by Obama acting as a lawyer for community “organizers” in Chicago - long before Obama ran for office.

26 posted on 09/17/2012 2:29:00 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Absolutely...The GOPe get down right unmovable with Conservatives but kowtow to libs more often than not, it's gotten really old and way past time for that to change.
27 posted on 09/17/2012 2:31:15 PM PDT by jazusamo ("Intellect is not wisdom" -- Thomas Sowell)
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To: TChris
>"Why lose to a lie because you didn't bother to explain the truth?"

"f people on welfare can be expected to work, surely people running for high office can put in a little work too — including the work of explaining in plain words what is totally false about the "tax cuts for the rich" argument."

Homerun!

28 posted on 09/17/2012 3:03:17 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: GeronL
>Romney is turning into McCain, it was pretty predictable"

Thank G_d Stinky stinks so bad! Myth is flopping as hard as he can but will still win.

29 posted on 09/17/2012 3:06:44 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
I don't see how Myth could lose to this clownish buffoon, a ham sandwich should be able to beat Obama.

Ham Sandwich - 75% Barack Obama - 15% Roseann Barr - 1% Gary Johnson - 1% Mickey Mouse - 2% Lynson LaRouche- 1% others ---------5%

30 posted on 09/17/2012 3:11:45 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: rockinqsranch

Romney is a wuss. It’s one thing to have advisors (Reagan) than to need advisors (McCain; Romney).


31 posted on 09/17/2012 3:14:33 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Democrats are dangerous and evil. Republicans are just useful idiots.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Things are a bit different now. They covered Reagan’s speeches and attacked him afterward. These days they take clips out of
context and then go into hysterical frenzies about conservatives’ “gaffs” while ignoring all faux pas by the Marxist left.


32 posted on 09/17/2012 3:14:55 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

Well then, Romney had better find himself a Lee Atwater : )


33 posted on 09/17/2012 3:30:54 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Even GHWB regretted hiring Atwater and declined to attend Lee’s funeral.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 4:02:15 PM PDT by Theodore R. ( Who among us has not erred? Akin's the One!)
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To: Theodore R.

” Even GHWB regretted hiring Atwater and declined to attend Lee’s funeral.”

That figures. Every time GHWB put his “silver foot” in his mouth, Atwater had to take it out, and blame the democrats for it.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 4:27:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I agree. He’s a bit more inept than Reagan, just a bit, don’tcha know. He doesn’t have all his “strong-conservative rhetoric” ducks in a row. He’s going to have hell to pay if he takes a sharp left turn if/when he’s elected.


36 posted on 09/17/2012 4:56:06 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: TheOldLady

” I agree. He’s a bit more inept than Reagan “

I’ll tell the WORLD..... LOL!


37 posted on 09/17/2012 4:58:49 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

LOL! Be my guest! ;-)


38 posted on 09/17/2012 5:04:47 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: GeronL
You totally overestimated the vote Lyndon Larouche would pull.

;)

39 posted on 09/18/2012 5:50:13 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: jazusamo

Well of course not....
The whole point is to intimidate then emasculate your opponent so in the end there is no opposition and you win...
Pretty damn obvious and nefarious.
So pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...
Nothing but smoke and mirrors....


40 posted on 09/18/2012 2:59:26 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: TheOldLady

Correct. The MSM starts out from the point of “when did you stop beating your wife” and gets more aggressive. That doesn’t mean we cannot refute them, but it isn’t easy.

Couple that with the entire government school complex and you’ve got a lot of reeducating to do.


41 posted on 09/18/2012 5:53:00 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: jazusamo

I love Sowell’s writing, I think he’s wrong on this score:

a) Paul Ryan is fantastically articulate and will do well for conservatives in this season. He can make a fool out of the left very easily.

b) Romney is a pit bull in a debate and will make mincemeat out of Obunga. He’s too soft on the opposition because he wants to be “polite” - but his ability to articulate is far better than McCain’s was.


42 posted on 09/18/2012 6:43:19 PM PDT by AlanGreenSpam (Obama: The First 'American IDOL' President - sponsored by Chicago NeoCom Thugs)
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To: WOSG
Romney needs to sharpen the argument and tie Obama’s egregious taxing, spending and regulating, his killing of Keystone and his oil drillign moratorium, etc. to our 8% unemplyoment and worst recovery since WWII.

Here's a free bone for Romney:



You kind of have to ask yourself why a Republican challenger is having such a difficult time making the case that Obama is the absolute worst president in American history, when there is such an overwhelming body of evidence to prove it.

Our nominee should have been running away with this thing already.

43 posted on 09/18/2012 7:39:38 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Very good point.

If you visit the news websites or liberal blogs, you often see the kneejerk excuse “It’s all Bush’s fault.”
I go out of my way to remind people that Democrats won control of Congress in 2007 and 2008. As in:

Excuse #1: Blame Bush.
Problem: DEMOCRATS ran Congress from 2007, so Pelosi, Reid, and Obama as well were co-pilots as the economy crashed.

There is another excuse to debunk ...

Excuse #2: Those darned Republicans wont pass any bills.
Problem: First, the Democrats had the White House ,Senate and House in 2010 and 2011. THEY PASSED THEIR AGENDA! From obamacare to Frank-Dodd, $1 trillion in more spending, Stimulus, then Stimulus II... we were supposed to have ‘recovery summer in 2010, remember? So how can a bill in 2012
be the holdup, when we DID pass bills.
And BTW the last JOBS bill was passed - in March 2012 with bipartisan support. But wait there is more! Republicans have passed almost 2 dozen jobs bills out of the House AND DEMOCRAT HARRY REID IS OBSTRUCTING THE REPUBLICAN JOBS BILLS! So this is blowing a big fat hole in the whole silly liberal narrative which is a 180 degree opposite of the real truth.


44 posted on 09/18/2012 8:12:03 PM PDT by WOSG (REPEAL AND REPLACE OBAMA. He stole America’s promise!)
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To: jazusamo

I do a better job taking down leftists than our elected Republicans and those at the RNC.
I do miss the days Newt Gingrich ran the House and had Republicans sharpen their debate skills on the House Floor.
Watching them on CSPAN was enlighting.


45 posted on 09/19/2012 1:25:24 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: jazusamo
>> The first time I saw Chris Christie on television, shortly after he became governor of New Jersey, my immediate reaction was, "My Gosh! A Talking Republican!" <<

The reaction of the Christie bashers, the first time they saw him on television, shortly after he became governor of New Jersey, was, "Oh cr@p! All that stuff we said during the primary about how he'd be 'no different' from Corzine is being proven false RIGHT NOW! We better come up with another smear to use against him, and fast!"

They laid low for a few months, then relentlessly carpet-bombed the internet with "Christie is a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, socially liberal Republican" lies.

They actually had a large measure of success with these lies, as people outside of NJ who didn't follow Christie's positions believed the "socially liberal RINO" meme. Then word began to spread nationally that Christie had been vocally speaking at pro-life rallies, shut down Planned Parenthood in NJ, and vetoed a gay marriage bill that got to his desk without blinking an eye. As of a few monthes ago, people were no longer buying the "socially liberal pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage Christie" smear.

The reaction of the Christie bashers, when he was chosen to speak the GOP convention was "Oh cr@p! Nobody believes our "socially liberal Christie" talking points anymore. We better come up with another smear to use against him, and fast!"

They laid low for a few months, then rolled out the latest one, just in time for the GOP convention... "pro-Sharia law, Muslim-loving Christie" (he visited a mosque once in life and appointed one Muslim to a judgeship in NJ, making him "pro-Muslim")

They'll keep relentlessly pushing this one, until Christie is shown going to bat for Jews so many times that the lie no longer works and they need a new "reason" while he's evil RINO scum, or until they finally turn NJ voters against him and the union thugs are back in power there.

46 posted on 09/19/2012 3:52:00 AM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: jazusamo; abigail2; Amalie; American Quilter; arthurus; awelliott; Bahbah; bamahead; Battle Axe
Can Republicans Talk?

Of course not. That's why they hire people like Karl (The Architect) Rove. He can't really talk either, except to Republicans who spend campaign money.

It is ironic that Republicans are supposed to be the "Party of Business" and they cannot handle what is in essence just simple market communication. As far as PR goes, forgetaboutit.

And don't go blaming the "Hostile MSM." That's simply a given market condition. Of course, the incredible ignorance of the average dumbed down American voter makes this communication business very difficult.

It is astounding that 50% of the voters take Obama seriously. Does this Obama guy look right to you? Can you actually understand what he says? Apparently those voters in the double-digit IQ camp hear him loud and clear.

47 posted on 09/19/2012 1:30:46 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Obama = Allende.)
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