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COLONEL: HILLARY MADE DECISION NOT TO POST MARINES AT BENGHAZI
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/14/Colonel-Says-Hillary-Clinton-Made-Decision-to-Have-No-Marines-at-Benghazi ^ | 9/14/12

Posted on 09/17/2012 1:55:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws

In an exclusive interview with Breitbart News, Fox News military analyst Colonel David Hunt laid the blame for the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans at the Benghazi, Libya American mission on Hillary Clinton and the State Department: The State Department just allowed our guys to get killed. If you approve no bullets in guns for the mission security guards and an outhouse for a mission, you’re inviting it. Earlier, on Howie Carr's radio show Thursday, Colonel Hunt said that the American mission at Benghazi "was like a cardboard building, there wasn't even bullet proof glass." In addition, Hunt said the security guards inside the mission didn't have bullets: Howie Carr: They weren't allowed to have bullets, is that correct?  Colonel Hunt: That's true. They were private security. The rules of engagement were ridiculous.  Hunt told Breitbart News that the new State Department Rules of Engagement for Libya, approved and signed by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton since the 2011 fall of Khadafi's regime, severely compromised the safety and security of murdered Ambassador Stevens and all American diplomatic staff in Libya. 

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; bhostatedept; blame; christopherstevens; davidhunt; libya; soshillary; sourcetitlenoturl; statedeptcoverup; usembassy

1 posted on 09/17/2012 1:55:51 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Resign ‘Madame’ Secretary. Now.


2 posted on 09/17/2012 1:57:36 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: TigerClaws

Looks like Hillary’s going under the bus. Bet she resigns before the week is out.


3 posted on 09/17/2012 1:57:45 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

Hope she winds up with PERMANENT treadmarks.


4 posted on 09/17/2012 1:59:25 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.yoututbe.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28)
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To: jersey117

I doubt it, if the rest of the Obama loving media refuses to report the truth, there will be no reason for Hillary to resign. The media works for the Obama Administration, they will just refuse to release this info


5 posted on 09/17/2012 1:59:44 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: TigerClaws

This will smoke ‘em out!

Hillary will not be the Fall Gal!

She’ll investigate and tattle on her boss. She will not lose the political infight.

Get the popcorn!

Wait for the leaks from “Highly Placed Sources at the State Department!”


6 posted on 09/17/2012 2:00:29 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (You didn't build that. The private sector is doing fine. We tried our plan and it worked.)
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To: jersey117

She’ll deflect blame back to Zer0. As stupid as she is, she can always claim it was under the directive of Zer0’s foreign policy.


7 posted on 09/17/2012 2:02:30 PM PDT by PJBankard (I told my friends I was heading to Octermocty for the weekend. They replied... "Wear the fox hat")
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To: TigerClaws
Arkansaside! hilary is good at it.
8 posted on 09/17/2012 2:04:29 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Resign ‘Madame’ Secretary. Now.

Good Lord, can you imagine that 7 day long, 3rd grader, clear and understandable to a baby, Algore style, departure speech?

I could kill any sane adult who tried to listen to it.

9 posted on 09/17/2012 2:05:20 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Though have to agree, this is the probable way it will play out.


10 posted on 09/17/2012 2:05:52 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TigerClaws

There is something of great value in this for Hillary to still be at Obama’s side at this point in time. He is in serious trouble and I do not believe that she would allow herself to be implicated in this for the sale of her desire to run in 2016. Either something has gone wrong in a major way or else Obama has her aught in his web with no way out.


11 posted on 09/17/2012 2:06:06 PM PDT by TennTuxedo
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To: TigerClaws

Her husband didn’t want heavy armor and attack aviation in Somalia in 93, it would have sent the “wrong message.” But no worries, he looked very dignified and sincere when the bodies were brought home.


12 posted on 09/17/2012 2:08:02 PM PDT by Red6
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To: TigerClaws

This may all very well be true.

However.

I’ve yet to see any analysis of the forces in the attack, their armament, and therefore what level of firepower would have been necessary to repel them.

IOW, would 10 Marines have been able to repel the attack or just add to the number of dead Americans? An attack by 100 jihadis with heavy weapons would have been difficult to repel by 5 or 10 Marines armed with personal weapons.

Also, if Marines had used deadly force to successfully defend the consulate, you just know the headlines would have been, “US Marines kill and wound dozens of peaceful demonstrators.”

Not trying to say it was right to not have Marines on guard. But their presence would not of itself have constituted a magic wand that would have resulted in a better outcome. Embassy or consulate guards are not intended to be able to stand a major siege.


13 posted on 09/17/2012 2:08:11 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: EGPWS

It’d do her in for 2016. But this sure looks like she’s the fall guy for the administration.


14 posted on 09/17/2012 2:08:59 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

Thanks for speaking the truth Colonel Hunt.


15 posted on 09/17/2012 2:09:33 PM PDT by sanjuanbob
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To: TennTuxedo

She didn’t look happy at their joint press conference. The press can only keep this bottled up so long...


16 posted on 09/17/2012 2:09:46 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: jersey117
Looks like Hillary’s going under the bus. Bet she resigns before the week is out.

Quidam, is that you?

17 posted on 09/17/2012 2:09:46 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: TigerClaws

Now she has blood on her hands just like her moron husband.

Bill Clinton failed to provide adequate protection in Mogadishu, resulting in Black Hawk Down.

Hillary is synonymous with Benghazi from this day forward.


18 posted on 09/17/2012 2:10:33 PM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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To: Sherman Logan

I’ve heard there were about 125 gunmen sent in. Do you think 125 cowardly Islamists would have attacked if they knew there were 10 armed Marines on duty? I don’t.


19 posted on 09/17/2012 2:13:01 PM PDT by ez (When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.)
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To: Sherman Logan
would 10 Marines have been able to repel the attack or just add to the number of dead Americans?

A reasonable question, and possibly the thinking behind the decision.

That could be debated all day long.

BUT

It's 100% certain that having NO bullets is insufficient to repel such an attack.

20 posted on 09/17/2012 2:13:40 PM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: jersey117
Bet she resigns before the week is out.

But Hillary's ASSIGNMENT is to help get all US Embassies out of the Middle East. She isn't done yet.

21 posted on 09/17/2012 2:13:57 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: sanjuanbob

Col. Hunt voted for obama.


22 posted on 09/17/2012 2:14:11 PM PDT by mirkwood
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To: TigerClaws

The security detail had no bullets! That leaves me speechless.......... :[


23 posted on 09/17/2012 2:16:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: ez

That’s the old “bullies are always cowards” meme. I wish it was true.

Many bullies are cowards, not all. The world would be a much safer place if they were.

RPGs and other heavy weapons will take down a building and kill the occupants regardless of how brave or competent the defenders are.

Also, if they had known 10 Marines were on guard, might they have sent 200 gunmen or 300 rather than 125?

I have no doubt our Marines can defend against a multiple of jihadis. But at some point the correlation of forces becomes adverse and they lose. They aren’t supermen, and they don’t bounce bullets.


24 posted on 09/17/2012 2:19:10 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

Gotta agree with that.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that consulates are quite different from embassies, and are generally located in rented office space or a small rented compound, not in a custom-built building designed to be defended against attack.

Despite this, some of the stories flying around indicate a four hour gun battle, not exactly a sign of totally lax security. In particular, it would seem somebody on the American side had bullets.


25 posted on 09/17/2012 2:27:12 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I worked at the American Embassy in Cairo. There was often rioting and violence and normally it took one or two Marines to deal with it. That was during the Reagan years and every raggie new that each Marine represented a Sixth Fleet sized ass whooping if they went too far. Such is not the case now days.


26 posted on 09/17/2012 2:31:28 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Ajnin

But did those one or two Marines repel a determined attack by 125 organized and heavily armed gunmen? I seriously doubt it.

Does anybody recall an incident where Marines actually shot and killed attackers?

As you say, the point was the Sixth Fleet’s anticipated response, not the Marines on the ground being expected to hold out against a major assault.


27 posted on 09/17/2012 2:40:59 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I’d take your money all day if you’re betting on 125 thugs versus 10 United States Marines. Especially if the Marines have cover. Them boys is good shots. I wouldn’t want them shooting at me. And no, I am not a Marine. But I’ve been with them.


28 posted on 09/17/2012 2:52:10 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigerClaws

Is Romney going to be afraid to bring this up because he doesn’t want to risk turning off voters who like the Clintons?


29 posted on 09/17/2012 2:55:28 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: TigerClaws
HILLARY MADE DECISION NOT TO POST MARINES AT BENGHAZI

Who ever gave that b**** the authority to do that?

30 posted on 09/17/2012 2:55:43 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: Sherman Logan

You are missing the obvious. The security Marines are specifically trained for this mission and vastly outclass “spray and pray” jihadis. Secondly, a defensive force has the advantage of position while an attacking force is exposed. Would 100 al qaeda fighters have beaten 10 Marines? Unlikely but even if they had, they would have lost most of their force in the process. It only took one Marine with a .38 pistol to stop the VC attack on the embassy in Saigon in ‘68.


31 posted on 09/17/2012 3:02:35 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: jersey117

” Bet she resigns before the week is out.”

I’ll take that bet . How much ?


32 posted on 09/17/2012 3:03:17 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: mirkwood
Col. Hunt voted for obama.

Primary or general?

33 posted on 09/17/2012 3:04:13 PM PDT by JediJones (KARL ROVE: "And remember, this year, no one is seriously talking about ending abortion.")
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To: PJBankard

I agree. She blames obama and resigns. Things are getting ugly with the news about the blind sheik. Has bubba been on the campaign trail? Get the popcorn ready because they aren’t spinning their way out of one.


34 posted on 09/17/2012 3:05:01 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: Sherman Logan

30 consulate staff did get out and the attackers were repelled by U.S. and Libyan security forces.


35 posted on 09/17/2012 3:17:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: TigersEye

where’s the outrage from the gay community????
if “W” had sent a homosexual to a Middle Eastern country and the ambassador had gotten killed/sodomized, imaging the out cry!!!


36 posted on 09/17/2012 3:35:36 PM PDT by nevermorelenore
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To: nevermorelenore
The "gay" community has tried to make an issue of it by digging up what they claim is proof that Stevens was gay.

BREAKING NEWS: Two sources in Chicago diplomatic circles identify Ambassador Chris Stevens as gay

Unfortunately for that meme Bush was the first one to send Stevens to Libya.

J. Christopher Stevens, U.S. ambassador to Libya, dies at 52

Mr. Stevens had served in Israel, Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia, but Libya became the center of his career. He served there three times, beginning in the years before Gaddafi fell, when the mercurial leader was trying to repair decades of poor relations with Washington. Mr. Stevens was the No. 2 U.S. diplomat in Libya from 2007 to 2009.

It's Bush's fault! /s

37 posted on 09/17/2012 3:48:47 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: Red6

Susan Rice was one of the geniuses behind Slick Willy’s refusal to take bin Laden into custody when Sudan offered him up on a silver platter in the 90’s. Twice.

(ref. Mansour Ijaz)

It must suck to know your stupidity is responsible for so many deaths — 9/11/2001 and 9/11/2012 — but then again she’s a democrat so I guess not)


38 posted on 09/17/2012 6:21:27 PM PDT by THE UNDISPUTED TRUTH (Islam: the original "Killer App" of religeons)
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