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Obama wins right to indefinitely detain Americans under NDAA
Russia Today ^ | 9/18/12

Posted on 09/18/2012 11:54:02 AM PDT by pabianice

A lone appeals judge bowed down to the Obama administration late Monday and reauthorized the White House’s ability to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or due process.

Last week, a federal judge ruled that an temporary injunction on section 1021 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 must be made permanent, essentially barring the White House from ever enforcing a clause in the NDAA that can let them put any US citizen behind bars indefinitely over mere allegations of terrorist associations. On Monday, the US Justice Department asked for an emergency stay on that order, and hours later US Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit Judge Raymond Lohier agreed to intervene and place a hold on the injunction.

The stay will remain in effect until at least September 28, when a three-judge appeals court panel is expected to begin addressing the issue.

On December 31, 2011, US President Barack Obama signed the NDAA into law, even though he insisted on accompanying that authorization with a statement explaining his hesitance to essentially eliminate habeas corpus for the American people.

http://rt.com/usa/news/obama-lohier-ndaa-stay-414/ 12


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
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To: Myrddin

http://m.sodahead.com/united-states/exclusive-do-not-go-anywhere-far-from-home-between-now-and-nov-you-will-not-be-able-to-get-back/question-3125681/

Was the law enforcement dealer one of the folks mentioned in the above article?

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21 posted on 09/18/2012 12:41:00 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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To: Breto

“The NDAA eliminates the posse comitatus act or recognizes the elimination of the act.....”

And that worries the living daylights out of me.


22 posted on 09/18/2012 12:46:30 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: pabianice

23 posted on 09/18/2012 12:47:00 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: WildHighlander57
Swiped from the thread at your link . . .

</apropos>


24 posted on 09/18/2012 12:48:38 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: pabianice
On December 31, 2011, US President Barack Obama signed the NDAA into law, even though he insisted on accompanying that authorization with a statement explaining his hesitance to essentially eliminate habeas corpus for the American people.

Now I know why the Left isn't screaming, protesting or occupying anything over this.... he "feels bad" about it, so it's a-okay.

25 posted on 09/18/2012 12:52:06 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1)
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To: Stormdog
“Funny” as in suspicious. What’s going on isn’t any kind of joke.

Agree, 100%. We're being set up. And instead of performing its traditional role as a guardian against the abuse of government power, the media is "all in".

26 posted on 09/18/2012 12:53:30 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
Ummm, why are we hearing about this from the Russian news media?

Because in Soviet Amerika, President write news... Komrade.

27 posted on 09/18/2012 12:55:44 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: tomkat

“Ohm” with you.


28 posted on 09/18/2012 12:59:34 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: Stormdog; andy58-in-nh
>“There’s something going on all right, but it sure ain’t funny.”
“Funny” as in suspicious. What’s going on isn’t any kind of joke.

Sure it is... you just might not like the punchline of “This is America, it can’t happen here.”

29 posted on 09/18/2012 12:59:59 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Stormdog
“The NDAA eliminates the posse comitatus act or recognizes the elimination of the act.....”

And that worries the living daylights out of me.

Not to mention the legitimate suspension of Habeus Corpus.

30 posted on 09/18/2012 1:01:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Breto

“And for the cool-aid drinking republicans here.. your guys voted for it too or when they could have easily killed it.”

It’s a Husssein executive order “law”. Never went to congress for a vote.


31 posted on 09/18/2012 1:06:50 PM PDT by Marcella (Republican Conservatism is dead. PREPARE)
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To: ColdOne
It's not possible to make a distinction between 0bama and Romney on NDAA.

Youtube videos:

Mitt Romney - Yes I would Sign NDAA

Here's "crazy" Ron Paul on NDAA.

NDAA Floor Speech Jan 18 2012

It's also noteworthy that the lawsuit was filed by Chris Hedges.

Christopher Hedges et al v. Barak Obama et al NDAA Opinion and Order 9-12-2012

32 posted on 09/18/2012 1:08:12 PM PDT by Chunga85
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To: pabianice

This means that Obama has the right to indefinitely detain Romney even after the latter has won the election.


33 posted on 09/18/2012 1:10:41 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as effective as those who enforce it.)
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To: pabianice
When the obozo signed into law the NDAA he included a signed statement that he would not exercise section 1021 but now he is fighting to keep it active. With respect to the future of America, that clearly speaks for itself. As Bill Ayres once stated, the new government will fill anti-capitolism retraining camps. For any American who refuse to be retrained will be put to death. Like other bits of resistance the obozo has encountered when he craps on the constitution, his mafia thugs deliver a threat, and wallah, resistance changes to immediate compliance. I'm sure the same will happen with this issue. As most are doing nothing to stop the demise of our country, it's like the nation is standing on a train track and just watching an approaching locomotive knowing what the obvious outcome is going to be if the train is not stopped. Once the train runs your ass over.............
34 posted on 09/18/2012 1:12:00 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: andy58-in-nh
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking:  What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?  Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?  The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

  Solzhenitsyn

35 posted on 09/18/2012 1:14:57 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: pabianice

Allen West and Paul Ryan voted for it. They are not my favorite people.


36 posted on 09/18/2012 1:15:15 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: OneWingedShark

“Not to mention the legitimate suspension of Habeus Corpus.”

AKA Indefinite Detention. What’s the English word for “Gulag”?


37 posted on 09/18/2012 1:17:26 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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To: pabianice
Judge Raymond Lohier

TRAITOR to the US Constitution. Should be impeached and given the death penalty. By firing squad.

Don't think I'm serious?

38 posted on 09/18/2012 1:18:40 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (My game is disruption. I will use lethal force --my vote-- in self-defense against Obama.)
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To: Stormdog
What’s the English word for “Gulag”?

California ?


39 posted on 09/18/2012 1:19:55 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: tomkat

That was good!!!


40 posted on 09/18/2012 1:21:12 PM PDT by Stormdog (A rifle transforms one from subject to Citizen)
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