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Monsanto Roundup weedkiller and GM maize implicated in ‘shocking’ new cancer study
The Grocer UK ^ | Septembe 19, 2012 | Elinor Zuke

Posted on 09/19/2012 5:31:52 PM PDT by opentalk

The world’s best-selling weedkiller, and a genetically modified maize resistant to it, can cause tumours, multiple organ damage and lead to premature death, new research published today reveals.

In the first ever study to examine the long-term effects of Monsanto’s Roundup weedkiller, or the NK603 Roundup-resistant GM maize also developed by Monsanto, scientists found that rats exposed to even the smallest amounts, developed mammary tumours and severe liver and kidney damage as early as four months in males, and seven months for females, compared with 23 and 14 months respectively for a control group.

“This research shows an extraordinary number of tumours developing earlier and more aggressively -particularly in female animals. I am shocked by the extreme negative health impacts,” said Dr Michael Antoniou, molecular biologist at King’s College London

...GM crops have been approved for human consumption on the basis of 90-day animal feeding trials. But three months is the equivalent of late adolescence in rats, who can live for almost two years (700 days), and there have long been calls to study the effects over the course of a lifetime.

(Excerpt) Read more at thegrocer.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cancer; fda; foodsafety; foodsupply; gmcorn; gmmaize; gmo; monsanto; monsantoinbedfda; roundup; us
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1 posted on 09/19/2012 5:31:56 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

God makes corn just fine.


2 posted on 09/19/2012 5:33:45 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: opentalk

Hmmmm The end of no-till?


3 posted on 09/19/2012 5:35:06 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: opentalk

Sounds like these Roundups should be sprayer in every inner city sewer system!


4 posted on 09/19/2012 5:35:42 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: opentalk

I’ve lived in Roundup country since the early 80s.
Worse than that I’ve mixed it, sprayed it, and inhaled it.

I guess I’m toast.....


5 posted on 09/19/2012 5:35:43 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: bmwcyle
May help explain cancer rates in US..from article

Some 85% of maize grown in the US is GM, while 70% of processed foods contain GM ingredients without GM labelling. In the UK and Europe GM maize is not consumed directly by humans but is widely used in animal feed without the requirement for GM labelling.

6 posted on 09/19/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Sounds like I need to take my old cotton-choppin’ hoe out of retirement. Now, where’s that file?!?!


7 posted on 09/19/2012 5:39:48 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: opentalk
Linked at Drudge, France orders probe after rat study links GM corn, cancer

France's government on Wednesday asked a health watchdog to carry out a probe, possibly leading to EU suspension of a genetically-modified corn, after a study in rats linked the grain to cancer...

8 posted on 09/19/2012 5:39:49 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Saline water also causes cancer when injected under the skins of rats.

They won’t know anything till they study this in higher forms of mammals.

Rats make good test subjects for curing cancer but are very poor test subjects for investigating the causes of cancer.


9 posted on 09/19/2012 5:41:42 PM PDT by dila813
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To: opentalk

heard of an Amish guy who bought some GM corn for some of his livestock. Threw it out in the woods and said the deer wouldn’t eat it.


10 posted on 09/19/2012 5:41:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Sorry, gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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To: opentalk

I’ve been warning FReepers of the dangers of RoundUp for 10 years on this forum, after a prior study showing that pregnant women exposed to it have children who develop “ambiguous sexual organs” (sounds lovely, eh?). Now this. If you use RoundUp around your house and let your kids play there, you are bonkers. You’d be better off spraying them with Agent Orange.


11 posted on 09/19/2012 5:44:20 PM PDT by montag813
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To: opentalk
A little long – 94 minutes – but full of good information.

Genetic Roulette – The gamble of our lives

Don’t eat GMO corn or soy.

12 posted on 09/19/2012 5:45:36 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: opentalk
compared with 23 and 14 months respectively for a control group

What the heck? I sounds like they have some cancerous rats.

I wonder if the tests were done in California. Everything causes cancer in California.

13 posted on 09/19/2012 5:46:33 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: opentalk
Is there any pesticide available that's not carcinogenic? I stopped using any of them years ago after my then 5 y/o son was diagnosed with a soft-tissue cancer.

To this day, we don't know what caused his cancer, but there's no ornamental or food crop that I'll use any chemicals on. My tomatoes and peppers are doing fine - I choose disease resistant (mostly heirloom) varieties.



Genuflectimus non ad principem sed ad Principem Pacis!

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

14 posted on 09/19/2012 5:47:23 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: opentalk

What were they doing to these rats to cause 30% tumors in the control group?


15 posted on 09/19/2012 5:48:26 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: opentalk
Cancer row over GM foods as French study claims it did THIS to rats... and can cause organ damage and early death in humans Daily Mail UK
16 posted on 09/19/2012 5:50:26 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Just eat some of those GM tomatoes that are all you can get now and it will be obvious that it going to kill you. They are so horrible.


17 posted on 09/19/2012 5:51:19 PM PDT by Revel
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To: bmwcyle

God makes everything just fine except for some humans who think they can do better. It never ends well.


18 posted on 09/19/2012 5:54:17 PM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: dila813
Rats make good test subjects for curing cancer but are very poor test subjects for investigating the causes of cancer.

Yet a whole lot of our public policy is based on rat based science.

19 posted on 09/19/2012 5:56:14 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: opentalk
While other scientists at Kings College, London, pointed out that the particular strain of rat used in the study was very prone to tumors when fed an unrestricted diet.

And the question has been raised why American life spans are increasing despite the consumption of GM maize (corn).

Everything is not always as it appears at first glance.

20 posted on 09/19/2012 5:58:23 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Josephat

I don’t know any man that can out create God. The fools keep trying at our expense.


21 posted on 09/19/2012 5:58:43 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: bmwcyle

“God makes corn just fine.”

No offense, but you don’t know much about corn then. That’s like saying we shouldn’t have any modern technology.

Here is a picture of the corn that God made:

http://media.mcclatchydc.com/smedia/2011/02/02/17/2web_MEXICO-CORN_wide.wide_photo.prod_affiliate.91.jpg

Later, God also gave us the intelligence to unlock the genes in this primitive plant to improve it greatly and feed billions of people


22 posted on 09/19/2012 5:58:59 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: opentalk

The pics of these poor tumor-ridden rats are beyond the pale...absolutely hideous.


23 posted on 09/19/2012 6:01:59 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: dila813

Rats don’t live very long, and many of them die from cancer in their old age for no environmental reason. You have to die of something.


24 posted on 09/19/2012 6:03:50 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: HereInTheHeartland

We don’t need a better corn. The corn available in the store sucks compared to what we has when I was young.


25 posted on 09/19/2012 6:05:16 PM PDT by bmwcyle (Corollary - Electing the same person over and over and expecting a different outcome is insanity)
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To: opentalk

Before anyone has a heart attack over this study, numerous other scientists in the field have serious questions about the validity of the study due to the lack of controls.

Sounds more like one more BS study. Kind of like the Harvard professor who says she has a cigarette pack sized piece of papyrus dating back to around 400 AD that refers to Jesus’ wife and a female disciple.


26 posted on 09/19/2012 6:09:13 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: bmwcyle
“The corn available in the store sucks compared to what we has when I was young.”

If you are talking about fresh corn in the produce area; that would not be GMO corn at all.
It probably doesn't taste as good as you would like because it is a lower sugar content sweet corn that might ship better
Come here to Iowa and will find incredible tasting fresh sweet corn.
It isn't shipped far; and the growers can use the high sugar content varieties.

27 posted on 09/19/2012 6:11:20 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: Revel

There’s a large variety of heirloom seeds for non-GM tomatoes, and such tomatoes can be found for sale.


28 posted on 09/19/2012 6:11:51 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: CdMGuy
“numerous other scientists in the field have serious questions about the validity of the study due to the lack of controls.”

Not surprising and that would be my expectation. Would love to see where their grant money is coming from!!

29 posted on 09/19/2012 6:13:03 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: opentalk

Oh man, Global Warming Food story, with even less science behind it.

Buckle down folks, as long as I’ve been on FR I’ve said that the American Farmer wouldn’t let Americans starve, and they won’t, but these Leftist anti-science, human haters have been given almost the power of Stalin. Just look at our cars to see what I mean.

Stalin starved 30 million people to death in one of the great breadbaskets of the world.

It may happen here.


30 posted on 09/19/2012 6:13:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Liberals, at their core, are aggressive & dangerous to everyone around them,)
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To: opentalk

Time to buy a couple of gallons of Round Up for future use...if anything does a good job, time to have a report that says its bad for you, remove it from the market...


31 posted on 09/19/2012 6:13:39 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: bmwcyle

I have come to believe that the most sincere form of worship is the recognition of the total perfection of God’s design. I am convinced that the cure for every disease can be found among the bounty He has provided and that many diseases are the result of our deviation from His plan. I am fearful for this world because there seem to be so many in places of power who think they can do better than God Almighty. Pray...a lot.


32 posted on 09/19/2012 6:15:36 PM PDT by Josephat (`)
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To: nascarnation

It looks like Round up has made you a walking zombie...me too as I have used it for a couple of decades....but since no one wants to tell me I am a zombie, its fine with me...


33 posted on 09/19/2012 6:16:35 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: HereInTheHeartland

You’re posting facts and information.

Is that allowed on FR these days?


34 posted on 09/19/2012 6:19:21 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: count-your-change
We rank 50th in life expectancy compared to other countries link

France ranks 14th..one of counties requesting more investigation of GMOs. Ex-Monsanto people are in the FDA helping make US policy. More independent studies are needed. (Imo)

35 posted on 09/19/2012 6:20:02 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Later, God also gave us the intelligence to unlock the genes in this primitive plant to improve it greatly and feed billions of people

Yep. Every domesticated plant or animal has been genetically modified in one way or another. It's amusing how hysterical people get over GM food, as if any agricultural products are somehow pure-free from human manipulation.

That being said, I use Roundup on the weeds in the alley and vinegar on the weeds in the play area.

36 posted on 09/19/2012 6:20:27 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

“Later, God also gave us the intelligence to unlock the genes in this primitive plant to improve it greatly and feed billions of people”

And wheat, and grapes, and citrus and dairy cattle and soy beans...on and on.


37 posted on 09/19/2012 6:20:52 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: opentalk

Correction = countries


38 posted on 09/19/2012 6:21:26 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: goat granny

buy straight Glyphosate.

Round-up in the little squirt bottles is only about .5%. you pay about $7 bucks for a quart of water and a spritz of Glyphosate.

Can buy 2 1/2 gallons of 41% for 30 bucks at the farm store.

one jug will last the rest of my life


39 posted on 09/19/2012 6:21:37 PM PDT by digger48
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To: nascarnation

“You’re posting facts and information.

Is that allowed on FR these days?”

Only on Wednesday’s between 6:00 and 10:00 Central time!


40 posted on 09/19/2012 6:22:51 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: familyop
There’s a large variety of heirloom seeds for non-GM tomatoes

Chances are that they have indeed been genetically modified through selection and hybridization over hundreds of years.

41 posted on 09/19/2012 6:24:00 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: Balding_Eagle
Just look at our cars to see what I mean.

Don't understand your comment....444hp and 26 mpg highway


42 posted on 09/19/2012 6:24:36 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: HereInTheHeartland

We are actually having a decent crop season around my area because of the quality of the soil, but moreso, the genetics of modern grain that can survive not only the worst drought since the 80’s, but also natures own insect destroyers


43 posted on 09/19/2012 6:24:48 PM PDT by digger48
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To: digger48
A little water from the top of the water softener really does the job. ( if you use salt)
44 posted on 09/19/2012 6:25:50 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: HereInTheHeartland
It's even more basic that that. Here's what the early meso Americans started with: Teosinte

Everything since has been the product of humans using their God-given intelligence and curiosity. GM crops are no different, except that we can accomplish in years or months what our forebears took centuries to achieve.

Not buying the balance of the cited study, either. Fits the "anti-GM" agenda too neatly.

45 posted on 09/19/2012 6:27:20 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Irish Eyes

I didn’t realize until this year that farmers use salt water to force-ripen seed corn and tomatoes.

I knew they used something to stop the green, but wasn’t sure what it was


46 posted on 09/19/2012 6:28:47 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Jeff Chandler
“That being said, I use Roundup on the weeds in the alley and vinegar on the weeds in the play area.”

As an ex farmer who would very familiar with Roundup; I found I don't know everything this spring.

Here is advice to others out there.
Make sure you have a gallon hand sprayer for Roundup, and another separate sprayer for broad leaf weeds.
Also make sure before you spray broad leaf weedkiller on your lawn; that you actually put broad leaf killer in the sprayer. Things don't turn out very well if you spray Roundup by mistake!

Especially when you are an ex farmer that (used to) makes fun of city people who who accidentally spray Roundup on their yards!

47 posted on 09/19/2012 6:31:23 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Would love to see where their grant money is coming from!!

Same knee-jerk accusation of paid corruption liberals make against studies refuting Anthropogenic Global Warming.

48 posted on 09/19/2012 6:32:14 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: absalom01
Yep, corn is grass plant. Most people are not aware of that.

“Not buying the balance of the cited study, either. Fits the “anti-GM” agenda too neatly.”

We have a tremendous amount of ignorance about just about topic that deals with science and technology. People are just lazy. And/or emotional.
Same thing with politics I guess.

My college background/degree was in agriculture. It was all about studying factual information and making decisions based on that.

49 posted on 09/19/2012 6:41:13 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
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To: opentalk
We rank 50th in life expectancy compared to other countries link

This same propaganda is used to malign our health care system.

God is in the details. 12% of our population (African-Americans) have a life expectancy of 72 years. Also, infant mortality is factored into life expectancy. In the United States, an infant is considered born if it leaves the womb and draws breathe. Many of the countries with higher life expectancies--with their lower infant mortality rates factored in--have convoluted infant mortality measurements which skew their rates downward. In other words, many of their infant deaths don't count towards the total.

50 posted on 09/19/2012 6:44:01 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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