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France set to ban the words 'mother' and 'father' from official documents
The Telegraph UK ^ | 9/24/12 | Staff

Posted on 09/24/2012 5:07:12 PM PDT by Cincinna

France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under controversial plans to legalise gay marriage.

The move, which has outraged Catholics, means only the word "parents" would be used in identical marriage ceremonies for all heterosexual and same-sex couples.

The draft law states that "marriage is a union of two people, of different or the same gender".

It says all references to "mothers and fathers" in the civil code – which enshrines French law – will be swapped for simply "parents".

Justice Minister Christiane Taubira told France's Catholic newspaper La Croix: "Who is to say that a heterosexual couple will bring a child up better than a homosexual couple, that they will guarantee the best conditions for the child's development?"

"What is certain is that the interest of the child is a major preoccupation for the government."

The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

"Gay marriage would herald a complete breakdown in society.

"This could have innumerable consequences. Afterward they will want to create couples with three or four members. And after that, perhaps one day the taboo of incest will fall."

Leading French Catholics have also published a 'Prayer for France', which says: "Children should not be subjected to adults' desires and conflicts, so they can fully benefit from the love of their mother and father."

And Pope Benedict XVI invited 30 French bishops to Italy to urge them to fight against the new law.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholicchurch; france; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; socialism
FIRST STEP TO LEGALIZE (NORMALIZE) HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE & ADOPTION.

Note what happens when Socialists take power. Christine Taubira is an affirmative action radical incompetent.

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1 posted on 09/24/2012 5:07:16 PM PDT by Cincinna
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To: Cincinna

idiotic and retarded


2 posted on 09/24/2012 5:07:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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NOT EVEN FRENCH! BORN IN CAYENNE, GUYANA

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3 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:21 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna
All children in France are boys. French nouns are not gender neutral, so there are no girl children in all of France.

It's an outrage. [/s]

4 posted on 09/24/2012 5:18:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (ua)
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To: Cincinna
The head of the French Catholic Church Cardinal Philippe Barbarin warned followers last week that gay marriage could lead to legalised incest and polygamy in society.

Enough of the slippery slope! This thing is a civilization-ender regardless of whether it "leads to" anything else. It redefines marriage/family as gender-indifferent; in other words, the very understanding of "parents" as FATHER and MOTHER disappears. Children henceforth have only "caregivers," though the "care" part is just a linguistic throwback to another age.

5 posted on 09/24/2012 5:20:14 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: Cincinna
It says all references to "mothers and fathers" in the civil code – which enshrines French law – will be swapped for simply "parents".

I prefer PARENTAL UNIT.

It just sounds so much more.... 1984. Furthermore, all children should be referred to as BIOLOGICAL EXTRUSION.

6 posted on 09/24/2012 5:22:04 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( If you think I'm crazy, just wait until you talk to my invisible friend.)
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To: madprof98

And if the mother and father are merely “caregivers” that opens up the door to the government to be “caregivers”. This whole thing is sick.


7 posted on 09/24/2012 5:23:16 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: ClearCase_guy

Birth certificates specify “male” or “femelle” for infant’s sex. There is a space for “mère” and “père”.
This is a radical departure from French tradition and culture.

Mme. Taubira is the second most hated woman in France, after “ first mistress “ Valerie Trieweiler aka “la Rottweiller” who is presently clawing her way into TV via her powerful “companion” President François Hollande. She is trying to force her own TV show.


8 posted on 09/24/2012 5:25:23 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: madprof98

IMO, this also makes it much more acceptable to take children from their birth parents. Everyone is now equal, so who cares if the child has the original parents or not. As long as they have two “whatever” or even one “whatever”, everything is okay in bazaaro world. And if you object as a Christian, YOU’RE the problem. Watch the book get thrown at you.


9 posted on 09/24/2012 5:51:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: Cincinna

“Who is to say that a heterosexual couple will bring a child up better than a homosexual couple”

I don’t care what anybody says, a child is better off with a mother and a father. The sexes are different psychologically, and both influences are best. It won’t always be the case, but it is the ideal.


10 posted on 09/24/2012 5:52:40 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Cincinna

Of course they are banning “mother” and “father” from official documents. They are doing their utmost to preserve the French language...therefore you can only use “la mere” and “le pere” in official documents..


11 posted on 09/24/2012 5:59:43 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: Cincinna
France is set to ban the words "mother" and "father" from all official documents under controversial plans to legalise gay marriage.

In other news, the French Revolution mandated a 10-day week, a 10-month year, 10 zits per teenager. . . (okay, I made that one up) How's that working out for you Godless surrender monkeys?

12 posted on 09/24/2012 6:11:36 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: Cincinna

This is the country where a woman married herself within the past few years so nothing is surprising.


13 posted on 09/24/2012 6:11:47 PM PDT by GoldwaterChick
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To: Cincinna

Is there any hope that parliament can hold this up or block it? I gather that it hasn’t yet passed. And I gather that François Hollande is increasingly unpopular.

Let’s hope it doesn’t go through.


14 posted on 09/24/2012 6:16:55 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cincinna

***France is set to ban the words “mother” and “father” from all official documents...***

We have reached the BRAVE NEW WORLD by Aldous Huxley when the word “Mother” was censored as evil.


15 posted on 09/24/2012 6:21:45 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Cincinna

She’s French like Puerto Ricans are Americans, ie not American at all.


16 posted on 09/24/2012 6:50:44 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Cincinna

Are we sure this is not from “L’Oignon?”


17 posted on 09/24/2012 6:52:52 PM PDT by rfp1234
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Thanks Cincinna.


18 posted on 09/24/2012 6:55:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinna

What if Two Frogs want to get Married?


19 posted on 09/24/2012 6:56:37 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Cincinna

What if Two Frogs want to get Married?


20 posted on 09/24/2012 6:56:46 PM PDT by LtKerst
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To: Cincinna

I don’t care what the French do...we have a Country here to save so VOTE and take someone with you.


21 posted on 09/24/2012 7:16:39 PM PDT by JohnD9207 (Mitt better grow a pair or this thing will be over soon.)
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Calling for an Exodus of Christians from France.


22 posted on 09/24/2012 8:38:38 PM PDT by Tomato lover ( 'My soul, wait thou only upon God!')
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To: Cincinna

Then demand that other statuses must be included like “that creepy guy who has no legal standing in this but doggone it just wants to be involved. The possibilities are endless.


23 posted on 09/24/2012 8:48:35 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Liberals make unrealistic demands on reality and reality doesn't oblige them.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Excellent point!


24 posted on 09/24/2012 8:50:10 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: Cincinna

Thank you Cincinna.


25 posted on 09/25/2012 4:13:34 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Imagine how bad these global protests would be, if Obama hadn't won us so many new friends.)
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To: GoldwaterChick

I bet San Francisco is pissed they didn’t get to do this first.


26 posted on 09/25/2012 9:35:28 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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Leading French Catholics have also published a 'Prayer for France', which says: "Children should not be subjected to adults' desires and conflicts, so they can fully benefit from the love of their mother and father."

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27 posted on 09/25/2012 9:47:20 AM PDT by NYer (Without justice, what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: Cincinna

Marriage should mean whatever anyone wants it to mean. Shouldn’t we be free to define reality as we please?

All kidding aside, attacks against reality are really attacks against God, Who is Being Itself, and Truth Itself.


28 posted on 09/25/2012 9:58:18 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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20+ French bishops are in the Vatican meeting with the Pope this week. They have a letter and a plan.

A country like France, dominated by secular atheists who value “laicité” above all is up against a country where the Muslim population is already 16% and radical Islam is on the rise. Catholics are intimidated, Protestants are small in number, and most of the Jews are non believers, or trying to emigrate to Israel or the US.


29 posted on 09/25/2012 1:27:01 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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All in the name of sodomy.

Motherhood & fatherhood are essential components of humanity. Proposals that aim to eradicate these natural facets of life should not enjoy the benefits of civil guard.


30 posted on 09/25/2012 1:33:47 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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Muslim population is already 16%

And what would be their views on same-sex marriage?

31 posted on 09/25/2012 1:37:10 PM PDT by the_devils_advocate_666
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Brave New World. Where "mother" and "father" are such dirty words they cannot be uttered in polite conversation. Even in (IIRC) the 1970s, Aldous Huxley was horrified that so much of what he had fantasized in 1936 or so had actually come to pass. This means only one thing:

TIME TO FIGHT BACK WITH NO HOLDS BARRED!

32 posted on 09/25/2012 7:28:02 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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Oh, don’t worry. California already did this and Arnie signed it with quite a flourish even though, as I recall, they didn’t have the votes to override a veto.


33 posted on 09/25/2012 11:20:34 PM PDT by Rashputin (Only Newt can defeat both the Fascist democrats and the Vichy GOP)
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Almost done it. Remember State Department last year’s initiative with “Parent 1” and “Parent 2” on the passport applications? Parent 1, Parent 2, Parent 3, 4. This is the road they pave for us:

“Christa and Brad decided to become Parent 1 and Parent 2. Being afraid to pass their imperfectness to their future child, they contracted with a sperm donor Mike, an egg donor Jane, and a surrogate mother, Alex who happened to be Parent 1 of five kids. Contractors agreed to participate at the discount rates if they become subsequently Parent 3, 4 and 1a. All five parents signed the Parents Contract, outlining their roles, responsibilities, and joint custody. Alex concealed from other Parents that she two years ago she became lesbian. On the other side, she concealed from her spouse, Linda, that she became pregnant. Outraged with Alex’s concealment, Linda threatened her with divorce. To make up to Linda, Alex requested on Linda also being included in the list of child’s parents, and after amending the contract, Linda became parent 5. Three months later, Christa and Brad filed for divorce, stating irreconcilable differences. After their three months expedited Nevada divorce became final, Brad married Ashley, promising to her that she will become Parent 1b, but concealed that fact from other Parents. One month after the baby boy was born, Parents 1a, 3, 4 sued Parent 2 for fraudulent concealment of material fact that he added Parent 1b to baby’s boy passport without amending the Parent Contract. At the same time, Parent 1 sued all other Parents over the custody. During the discovery process witness testified that Ashley had a history of drug abuse. The Court removed the baby from the custody of Parent 1b and Parent 2 and put the baby into the temporary custody of Jose Raul and Maria Bianca, who happened to be Parents 1 and 2 of Parent 5. Immediately after they receive the baby in their custody, Jose Raul and Maria Bianca, both of Cuban decent, sold their house in Florida and fled the country with the baby boy and applied for asylum in Cuba. Their distant relatives, Carlos and Leonora Santana, adopted the baby and became his Mom and Dad.

President Obama appealed to the Cuban government for return of the child promising in exchange to re-establish diplomatic relations with Cuba and to provide $1 billion in aid. In response, Cuban parliament granted the baby Cuban citizenship and amended Cuban constitution to forbid use of any gender neutral language in the official documents, including passports, and Fidel Castro in the highly publicized interview warned US about the dangerous evolution of political correctness and promised that Cuba would never abandon traditional family values. President Obama authorized deployment of USS Dwight D. Eisenhower to Cuba, but on the dawn before its departure from Norfolk, the aircraft carrier was hijacked by a twitter coordinated attack of five thousand strong crowd calling themselves “Moms” and “Dads”, who later arrived at Guantanamo base where they were cheered by American men and women in uniform and a huge crowd of Cubans.”


34 posted on 09/26/2012 12:23:42 AM PDT by oolo
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It sounds more like Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. The terms 'Mother' and 'Father' were considered obscenities and Henry Ford was considered a diety to the mass produced people.
35 posted on 09/26/2012 9:58:51 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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