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New Tracking Frontier: Your License Plates
WSJ ^ | 28 Sept 2012 | JULIA ANGWIN and JENNIFER VALENTINO-DEVRIES

Posted on 09/29/2012 9:56:28 AM PDT by Theoria

For more than two years, the police in San Leandro, Calif., photographed Mike Katz-Lacabe's Toyota Tercel almost weekly. They have shots of it cruising along Estudillo Avenue near the library, parked at his friend's house and near a coffee shop he likes. In one case, they snapped a photo of him and his two daughters getting out of a car in his driveway.

Mr. Katz-Lacabe isn't charged with, or suspected of, any crime. Local police are tracking his vehicle automatically, using cameras mounted on a patrol car that record every nearby vehicle—license plate, time and location.

"Why are they keeping all this data?" says Mr. Katz-Lacabe, who obtained the photos of his car through a public-records request. "I've done nothing wrong."

Until recently it was far too expensive for police to track the locations of innocent people such as Mr. Katz-Lacabe. But as surveillance technologies decline in cost and grow in sophistication, police are rapidly adopting them. Private companies are joining, too. At least two start-up companies, both founded by "repo men"—specialists in repossessing cars or property from deadbeats—are currently deploying camera-equipped cars nationwide to photograph people's license plates, hoping to profit from the data they collect.

The rise of license-plate tracking is a case study in how storing and studying people's everyday activities, even the seemingly mundane, has become the default rather than the exception. Cellphone-location data, online searches, credit-card purchases, social-network comments and more are gathered, mixed-and-matched, and stored in vast databases.

Data about a typical American is collected in more than 20 different ways during everyday activities, according to a Wall Street Journal analysis.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; database; license; privacy; surveillance; tracking
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The Wall Street Journal is conducting a long-running investigation into the transformation of personal privacy in America.

Selected findings:


1 posted on 09/29/2012 9:56:32 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Theoria
Anyone know where to get large sheets of LCD materials? It seems like there would be some money in making a license plate cover that would alternatively block each half of a license plate so a camera on a 1/30 second exposure time would only get half a plate, but someone watching it would just notice some shading of the numbers.
2 posted on 09/29/2012 10:04:48 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: Theoria
Shades of our new coming communists controlled America.
3 posted on 09/29/2012 10:06:51 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: Logical me
Federal employees have been subjected to this sort of surveillance for most of a century.

You don't get used to it. On the other hand, when you go missing they'll tell your family that you really are missing.

Eventually I think the public will come to their senses and realize it's not the local letter carrier robbing them but their Congress-critters!

4 posted on 09/29/2012 10:11:46 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: KarlInOhio

No worries comrade. Soon Gov’t will be invited into our cars via gps tracking and data collection. Do not fret, I’m sure they will employ various means of turning off your car if it is stolen. After all, it is in your best interest.


5 posted on 09/29/2012 10:14:31 AM PDT by Theoria (Romney is a Pyrrhic victory.)
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To: Theoria

Luckily I’m not a paranoid person, or I’d believe this article.


6 posted on 09/29/2012 10:18:06 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: Theoria

Thus, as I have said over and over, only the foolish post any information on Facebook.

Keep your internet footprint as small as humanly possible.


7 posted on 09/29/2012 10:28:15 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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To: Theoria

Yet nobody can find the millions of illegals, for instance. The eye is all seeing, but only for what it wants to see.


8 posted on 09/29/2012 10:32:44 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Theoria

I wonder what would happen if somebody started tracking cop cars?


9 posted on 09/29/2012 10:37:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You would end up at a lot of crime scenes.....


10 posted on 09/29/2012 10:40:26 AM PDT by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: freedumb2003

I’m glad to have shunned social networking in general. It is a huge, narcissistic-driven time suck. I wish there were more hours in the day for my many productive pursuits, forget about telling the world how my vacation was.


11 posted on 09/29/2012 10:41:39 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: Theoria
Fans of The Sopranos will have noticed that Tony didn't use EZ-Pass, he always took the toll ticket.

I'm not surprised by any of this -- but it's only going to catch dumb people. Smart ones will think their way around it.

Police surveillance systems are more likely to be installed in urban -- typically liberal Democrat -- cities than in suburban and rural areas. It's just not practical given the area they need to cover.

12 posted on 09/29/2012 10:44:27 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: KarlInOhio
I'm working on rows of hi intensity ir LEDS to affix around my license plate powered through the license plate light.

the IR's should blind the camera but cannot be observed by the eye

13 posted on 09/29/2012 10:45:38 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Sooth2222

Only problem with taking the ticket..

There is a camera pointed at your plate in the cash lane too.

They know. Pass or cash that you where there.


14 posted on 09/29/2012 10:49:14 AM PDT by cableguymn (peace through strength. if they don't like you at least they will fear you.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Anyone know where to get large sheets of LCD materials? It seems like there would be some money in making a license plate cover that would alternatively block each half of a license plate so a camera on a 1/30 second exposure time would only get half a plate, but someone watching it would just notice some shading of the numbers.

That would probably be illegal. When I was young and stupid and driving the tow truck it was a towing offense if there was anything that obscured any part of the plate -- even a frame that covered the edges.

15 posted on 09/29/2012 10:57:38 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: eyedigress

And doughnut shops.


16 posted on 09/29/2012 11:04:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: NativeSon
I'm working on rows of hi intensity ir LEDS to affix around my license plate powered through the license plate light. the IR's should blind the camera but cannot be observed by the eye

Why would that work since the camera is not using a night vision IR setting?

17 posted on 09/29/2012 11:16:05 AM PDT by montag813
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To: KarlInOhio

Is illegal in NJ

Know of several people pulled over for having license
plates covered in plastic film

Also is spray which can apply to deflect the laser bean used
to scan the plate


18 posted on 09/29/2012 11:18:26 AM PDT by njslim (St)
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To: Theoria

Recently, the Obama administration announded a multi-billion program called LPR—License Plate Recognition.

EVERY license place would eventually be photographed on streets & roads in the USA.

They claimed their computers could process 30,000 plates per second.

I say it is a direct violtion of the 4th Amendment.


19 posted on 09/29/2012 11:19:22 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: montag813
Why would that work since the camera is not using a night vision IR setting?

Digital camera chips (both CMOS and CCD) are very sensitive to IR. Depending on whether the manufacturer used an IR filter it would be like having a very bright light surrounding your license plate.

20 posted on 09/29/2012 11:21:08 AM PDT by KarlInOhio ("Government is the only thing that we all belong to"=implicit repeal of the 13th amendment for all.)
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To: Sooth2222

Effective in Feb, 2013, there will be NO more toll takers on the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco.
Everyone must pay electronically.

IF you go thru & don’t pay- they will take a photo of your license plate & send you a ticket—takes about 11 months to get that ticket.

I ask- what re they going to do with rental cars & the high convention trade they work so hard to garner in SF?

How about tourists? You must find one of their ‘bridge pass’ sales places in the city to buy your ticket before you go over the bridge.

I have crossed that bridge towing a 2 horse trailer to go to a N Calif ride. I paid for my toll. I cannot even think about trying to find a parking place for my truck & 2 horse trailer in the narrow SF streets to buy a ticket ahead of time.

Even in my car—screw it.

I will never go there again.


21 posted on 09/29/2012 11:23:08 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Theoria

I’ve been here a time or two to survey systems being exported. They re the best in the business

http://pipstechnology.com/


22 posted on 09/29/2012 11:26:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: njslim

Or spray on mud...:^)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2005/jun/14/uknews


23 posted on 09/29/2012 11:32:28 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: Theoria

When the bailout money was passed out my county put cameras on EVERY street corner. I don’t think many, or ANY, jobs were created but you get your picture taken about 200 times a day! My opinion is that this is a gross violation of the 4th Amendment! Of course the 0bama regime has declared The Constitution null and void and congress and the courts can’t be bothered to stop the emperor!


24 posted on 09/29/2012 11:33:12 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: Theoria

The NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA have used these and similar techniques for many years.

Look how well they applied the data and their skills, preventing 9/11/2001. Impressed yet?

I have had a Social Security number for 50 years, credit cards for 45 years, the same phone number for 41 years, my property ownership records have been public for 38 years, etc.

These and several other factors apply to each of us.

I don’t fear a roadside camera. I fear governments big enough to deploy resources aimed beyond criminals, to law-abiding citizens.

Currently we have governments too stupid to prevent known muslim terrorists from flying right into and out of major airports, obtaining driver licenses, getting officer commissions in the US Army, etc.


25 posted on 09/29/2012 11:35:10 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: ridesthemiles
I say it is a direct violtion of the 4th Amendment.

It is.

Consider this the next time you have to deal with the DMV. The department was originally conceived and sold to the voters as a regester of vehicles and their owners to make proof of ownership easier to determine. Now you spend days dealing with thousands of arcane regulations and endless forms, inspections and even weather or not the aroma of your car's exhaust is acceptable to a bureaucrat in a far distant city that you have never voted for or even known of.

When you get your mind around all of the personal information collected by the DMV consider the personal information collected by other agencies especially the IRS and you will begin to see the true purpose of such agencies is not to do what they were proposed to do but to find out what you the vassal of the rulers is doing in your so called private life.

(Rant off)

26 posted on 09/29/2012 11:36:11 AM PDT by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

Catch evildoers? Forget it. In South Florida these cameras are used primarily to generate a revenue stream from law-abiding citizens who don’t come to a FULL stop at intersections.


27 posted on 09/29/2012 11:42:44 AM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: KarlInOhio
Anyone know where to get large sheets of LCD materials? It seems like there would be some money in making a license plate cover that would alternatively block each half of a license plate so a camera on a 1/30 second exposure time would only get half a plate, but someone watching it would just notice some shading of the numbers.

Do a patent on your idea right away. The difference in brightness of the plate might not be noticable and if the camera shutter is slowed down to capture two frames of your plate, the motion of your vehicle would blur the numbers.

Excellent idea!

28 posted on 09/29/2012 11:44:54 AM PDT by sonofagun (Some think my cynicism grows with age. I like to think of it as wisdom!)
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To: Theoria

The surveillance genie is out of the bottle and can’t be put back in.

All we can do now is behave as the East Germans did under communist rule. Understand that every last move we make in public and many in what we expect to be private are recorded and try to keep from doing anything that draws attention to ourselves.

Our purchases are monitored, our travel is monitored, our communications are monitored, our associations and affiliations are known and cataloged and all of this information is available to the Stasi at the stroke of a few keys. And it is simplicity itself to find some unbeknownst to you law you’re not even aware you’ve broken to have you hauled in on a whim.

Frightening to say the least. And this time, there won’t be a Ronald Reagan to effectively break the back of OUR overlords.


29 posted on 09/29/2012 11:53:47 AM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (With (R)epublicans like these, who needs (D)emocrats?)
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To: QBFimi

Exactly, and despite the circumstances, you have no chance with the judge to contest any ticket. I got a cover for my license plate and I’m sure it has helped.


30 posted on 09/29/2012 12:04:59 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty ("Get that evil, foreign, muslim, usurping bastard out of MY White House!" FUBO GTFO!)
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To: KarlInOhio

In many states that’s illegal because it cuts off a huge source of revenue....traffic light ticket-cams.

Although in PA you only have to have a rear plate.....


31 posted on 09/29/2012 12:31:18 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: montag813
>"Why would that work since the camera is not using a night vision IR setting? "

Get your digital camera and a tv remote and see for yourself.

32 posted on 09/29/2012 12:53:21 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: NativeSon

Brilliant Idea!


33 posted on 09/29/2012 12:53:58 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: QBFimi
Crime doesn't pay!

Traffic violators do.

34 posted on 09/29/2012 12:58:38 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: rawcatslyentist
Get your digital camera and a tv remote and see for yourself.

I just took a picture of the remote's IR transmitter while holding down the volume up button and it did not show anything. Also where do you get IR bulbs strong enough to affect cameras when placed in sequence?

35 posted on 09/29/2012 1:11:41 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Theoria; Black Agnes

Welcome to the USSA, comrades.

You must learn to love Big Sister.


36 posted on 09/29/2012 1:12:24 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: KarlInOhio

Comrade, that would be a felony of some sort if you tried.

Anyway, comrade, what are you trying to hide, if you are not a criminal?


37 posted on 09/29/2012 1:16:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: JerseyDvl
"I’m glad to have shunned social networking in general. It is a huge, narcissistic-driven time suck."

(Excluding FR, right?)

38 posted on 09/29/2012 1:19:12 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Surveillance State ping.

Gwinnett County is a major suburban ATL-area county. They have a ton of cars with the external cameras mounted on the trunk. It is really, really obvious.


39 posted on 09/29/2012 1:40:28 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

And I now see I’m about 30 minutes slow on that ping.


40 posted on 09/29/2012 1:46:12 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: montag813

Do you have a live view setting? Remotes pulse, and you are as likely to shutter an off phase


41 posted on 09/29/2012 1:48:45 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a Barack 0b0tt0my!)
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To: Travis McGee

Hey MB, great to hear from you I hope you are doing well. I was just thinking about 1 of your essays where they were eliminating all of the conservative thinkers while reading about Pat Caddell trashing the media.
There is no way in hell that I could get good writing like that from any social media site! This place might be a bit of an echo chamber at times but it is still the best place to get relevant breaking news and I could never consider it social networking.


42 posted on 09/29/2012 1:48:59 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: ridesthemiles

Why is it have we no power to stop all this?


43 posted on 09/29/2012 1:50:50 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: JerseyDvl

Google lets us find any article, anytime, no matter where it was “published.” When you find a good writer, just look for his name on google, and set the field to “last month” or whatever. Even the “new media” is evoloving rapidly.


44 posted on 09/29/2012 1:54:36 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I like your writing and have read the entire book EFAD on your website. I appreciate you making your works so accesible to those of us affected by the Obama economy who can’t afford to buy right now.


45 posted on 09/29/2012 2:04:10 PM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: montag813
Digital cameras do not filter out IR (unless a filter is added). I came across that while playing with my camera phone and a remote.

you can try it yourself, turn on your camera look at the screen then point a tv remote at it, press a button.

46 posted on 09/29/2012 2:06:46 PM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Theoria

No worries comrade. Soon Gov’t will be invited into our cars via gps tracking and data collection. Do not fret, I’m sure they will employ various means of turning off your car if it is stolen. After all, it is in your best interest.
________________

They are already in your car in a black box that records your movements.


47 posted on 09/29/2012 3:11:56 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: ridesthemiles

the government is tracking people and making it difficult to move around. Freedoms gone.


48 posted on 09/29/2012 3:17:05 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: The Sons of Liberty

So how come these cameras arent shot out? In my father’s day, if some government did that, all the men in the neighborhood would be shooting out cameras. Daily.


49 posted on 09/29/2012 3:19:07 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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To: truth_seeker

I don’t fear a roadside camera. I fear governments big enough to deploy resources aimed beyond criminals, to law-abiding citizens.

___________________________

roadside cameras are just another arm of evil government.

Your information has been public for years, but only available to someone with the drive to go down to city hall or archives and find it. And they usually had to sign in and out of the archives.

Now any dip with the ability to run a handheld can know more about you than you would want.


50 posted on 09/29/2012 3:22:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup (STOP The Great O-ppression)
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