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Romney's Middle-Class Tax Sale: How the Republican can win the debate he's now losing by default.
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/03/2012

Posted on 10/03/2012 5:02:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

In this peculiar election year, President Obama is pulling off the small miracle—no, make that the kind of thing that happens in Lourdes—of winning the tax debate. This should be impossible, and Mitt Romney has to turn that around if he wants to win.

Despite a tax platform that is a Walter Mondale replay, polls show that Mr. Obama has sanded off the traditional GOP tax edge and the lead Mr. Romney held as recently as late summer. An ABC-Washington Post poll gives Mr. Obama a 49%-44% advantage on taxes, with Mr. Romney's credibility slipping from 48% in August, and Mr. Obama's surging from 43%. The same poll has 57% of registered voters saying Mr. Romney would do more to favor the wealthy than the middle class and merely 35% believing the opposite.

The main cause of this role reversal is that Mr. Obama has driven a relentless tax message—albeit a wildly deceptive one: That Mr. Romney is a sleeper agent who wants to raise taxes on middle-class families by $2,000 to finance tax cuts for him and his fellow tycoons. Mr. Obama invokes this putative secret plot at every rally, and so does every surrogate down to dogcatcher, plus his TV commercials.

As a factual matter, the claim is as bogus as any in years because Mr. Romney has proposed no such thing. The claim hangs on an August 1 report by the liberal Tax Policy Center that even its authors have since admitted was merely "stylized."

The outfit's gnomes concluded that Mr. Romney's actual reform proposal—cutting rates across the board by 20%, combined with closing loopholes at the higher end—was "mathematically impossible." They then imagined multiple details for a "Romney" tax plan that existed only in their own minds and that would raise taxes among the lower brackets

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: middleclass; romney; tax
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To: Gilbo_3
RE :”so, yeeeeaaaah, R *won* a debate, and moves closer to godhood...i guess i have to like him now ???

??? They are cleaning out that cell now you GOP dis-loyalist, you are either with us or against us, is that you Gilb on Amazon?

HA-HA, I know you love such talk.

41 posted on 10/03/2012 9:28:53 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; BillyBoy
If SOL is praising R, it must have been a history making performance :)

admittedly i have never been able to stand looking at bambams face, and his voice grates my nerves as well...

i also wonder if he doesnt posess some kind of evil-spirit type hypnotic ability that can even reach thru photos and video.../tinfoil...maybe ???

anywho, i always thought that the bam sounded like a bumbling, stuttering idiot, even on the totus, much less downright embarassing when ad libbing...

as far as bambam being a 'master debater'??? maybe when reggie love is in town...IOW, a warm body in the room should clean house on him in a *debate*...and mitts had a lil practice lately, and used car salesmen are usually pretty good bull$h!tter$ too...

so, yeeeeaaaah, R *won* a debate, and moves closer to godhood...i guess i have to like him now ???

42 posted on 10/03/2012 9:29:43 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs
hehehe, try '3xoblig' for email addys out of tehran...lemme know if ahmaneedadinnerjacket sends pics of himself in a compromising position...

but seriously, i think im beginning to forget about homos in the scouts and robambamcare...

43 posted on 10/03/2012 9:34:59 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; BillyBoy

The exact same comment at 40 and 42 ??
With my reply at 41?

a sandwich?


44 posted on 10/03/2012 9:36:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs

havent dbl posted in a while...prolly since last thon...


45 posted on 10/03/2012 9:42:52 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

Yep, but you managed to skip one 41 that I got.

The site’s been hanging up tonight.


46 posted on 10/03/2012 9:47:16 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs
double post of bambam/reggie love master debating was worth it...now its tripled...

FUBHO...

47 posted on 10/03/2012 9:51:38 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; Impy; Clintonfatigued
>> anywho, i always thought that the bam sounded like a bumbling, stuttering idiot, even on the totus, much less downright embarassing when ad libbing... as far as bambam being a 'master debater'??? maybe when reggie love is in town...IOW, a warm body in the room should clean house on him in a *debate*...and mitts had a lil practice lately, and used car salesmen are usually pretty good bull$h!tter$ too... <<

I'm just saying that several of Newt's hardcore fans on here told (warned) me over and over again during the primaries that UNLESS we nominated Newt, Obama would "destroy" the Republican nominee on the debate stage, because Obama is such a charismatic and slick talker and has the MSM in his corner.

Any Newt fans want to take that one back?

48 posted on 10/03/2012 10:13:30 PM PDT by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Impy; Clintonfatigued
RE :” I'm just saying that several of Newt's hardcore fans on here told (warned) me over and over again during the primaries that UNLESS we nominated Newt, Obama would “destroy” the Republican nominee on the debate stage, because Obama is such a charismatic and slick talker and has the MSM in his corner. Any Newt fans want to take that one back

Except Newt lost his cool and lost the later debates with MR. Newt does come up with some very clever lines that I like, but he has as much baggage as Romney does.

Romney strikes me as having more discipline and control on debate stage than Newt does under pressure(not talking interviews) .
But time will tell as Obama gets more aggressive in later debates. A good night for Mitts, but it;s far from over.

49 posted on 10/03/2012 10:34:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy; AuntB
Yes, I think O played it a bit weak on purpose. He will come on much stronger in the following debates.

You noticed that O. did not mention the 47% directly (unless I missed it when I went to the bathroom)? He might be saving that for some crucial moment, or maybe he thinks only the attack ads, not the debates, matter.

Maybe Biden has dibs :)

50 posted on 10/03/2012 10:39:26 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy; AuntB
RE :”You noticed that O. did not mention the 47% directly (unless I missed it when I went to the bathroom)? He might be saving that for some crucial moment, or maybe he thinks only the attack ads, not the debates, matter. Maybe Biden has dibs :)

Especially since I predicted that O would use the 47%, but PLEASE ignore anything I predict that doesn't work out, I am prepping for Rush;s job and his fans just ignore when he turns out wrong, 'SOL IS ALWAYS RIGHT, DON'T DOUBT ME' LOL.

Back to debate : You are right, You don't use your heavy weapons for the first round when there are more rounds coming. Yep, I think that Biden debate would be more effective place to introduce that type of destructive missile.

51 posted on 10/03/2012 10:49:39 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

the commies dont even have to mention 47% when so many ‘R’s are proudly touting the *truth* of that stat...


52 posted on 10/03/2012 10:58:35 PM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
RE :”the commies dont even have to mention 47% when so many ‘R’s are proudly touting the *truth* of that stat...

I got a bunch of those pings.
‘*Truth*’ is in the eye of the beholder in practice but they ALSO tell me that the 47% is a big POTUS campaign election winner with voters when MR made that comment in what he thought was private, and I know Rush is spitting out this nonsense.

Suicidal.

53 posted on 10/03/2012 11:07:06 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Gilbo_3; sickoflibs; BillyBoy
as far as bambam being a 'master debater'??? maybe when reggie love is in town...

I get Reggie Love and Reggie Hammond mixed up.


54 posted on 10/03/2012 11:11:34 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: BillyBoy; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; NFHale; Impy; ...
RE :”Ironically, the only portion of the debate I watched tonight was two minutes of it where Obama had the upper-hand and was slapping Romney around with how Romneycare differed little from Obamacare at the state level.

I just watched the rerun of that segment now. Obama came off as praising Romney for Romney-care and Romney took the ball and ran with it.

Obama got tied up in detailed arguments, Romney kept it simple.

I am NO ABBO nor do I like MR but I am being analytical watching these. Its a show. Like a movie.

55 posted on 10/03/2012 11:15:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs
I get Reggie Love and Reggie Hammond mixed up.

the easiest way for me to remember...reggie hammond reeeeeaaalllly likes wimmin...

reggie love just likes purple lipstick...

56 posted on 10/04/2012 6:12:07 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; NFHale; Impy

So far so good.


57 posted on 10/04/2012 7:40:30 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; BillyBoy

” so, yeeeeaaaah, R *won* a debate, and moves closer to godhood...i guess i have to like him now ??? “

Nah....just remember to despise Obama : )


58 posted on 10/04/2012 7:42:56 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: BillyBoy; Gilbo_3; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs; Impy; Clintonfatigued

” , Obama would “destroy” the Republican nominee on the debate stage, because Obama is such a charismatic and slick talker”

An above average high school kid could wipe out Obama in a debate, and Romney is not trying to lose, like McCain.


59 posted on 10/04/2012 7:45:42 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; sickoflibs

I was delighted at Romney’s performance. Obama was petulant and angry. Romney was adult and smiled the entire time.


60 posted on 10/04/2012 8:22:03 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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