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Jobs Growth Rises 114,000 as Rate Slides to 7.8 Percent
CNBC.com ^ | 5 Oct 2012 | Jeff Cox

Posted on 10/05/2012 11:06:59 PM PDT by neverdem

Job growth remained tame in September, but a big drop in the unemployment rate sparked a huge debate about what this meant for the economy—and the presidential race.

The US economy created just 114,000 new jobs last month, while the unemployment rate skidded to 7.8 percent, the first time it has been below 8 percent in 44 months.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics' nonfarm payrolls report presented a slew of contradictory data points, with the total employment level soaring despite the low net number.

The falling jobless rate had been a function as much of the continued shrinking in the labor force as it was an increase in new positions.

But the government said the total number of workers employed surged by 873,000, the highest one-month jump in 29 years. The total of unemployed people tumbled by 456,000.

The total labor force grew by 418,000, possibly accounting for the relatively modest net level of job growth compared to the total employed. The labor force participation rate, which reflects those working as well as looking for work, edged higher to 63.6 percent but remained around 30-year lows.

"You have to be careful, particularly about components of the household numbers that are highly volatile," said Liz Ann Sonders, chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab in San Francisco. "It's been our view that we would see a slow but consistent improvement in the jobs picture. I'm not sure this changes that view much at all."

Economists were expecting 113,000 more jobs and the rate to rise to 8.2 percent. Last month saw 142,000 new jobs as the rate dropped from 8.3 percent in July.

However, those numbers were revised higher, with the Labor Department putting July's number at 181,000 from the previously reported 141,000 and August up from an originally reported 96,000.

The level of part-time workers reported the largest jump for the month, gaining 582,000.

Jack Welch, the former CEO of General Electric , caused a stir after the numbers were released, tweeting "Unbelievable jobs numbers...these Chicago guys will do anything...can't debate so change numbers."

The administration rejected the charge that it was manipulating data.

"I have the highest regard for our professionals that do the calculations at the" Bureau of Labor Statistics, Labor Secretary Hilda Solis told CNBC. "They are highly skilled economists, trained in this area."

Still Solis acknowledged that "we still need to do more" in terms of job creation.

The U-6 unemployment number, which accounts for the underemployed and those who have given up looking for jobs, held steady at 14.7 percent.

"With a gain of 114,000 jobs in September and an upward revision for August, this economy remains on a slow but not slowing growth path," said Kathy Bostjancic, director of macroeconomic analysis at The Conference Board. "Right now, slow job and income growth is about all the economy is capable of generating as businesses remain focused on cutting costs."

With President Obama trying to stave off a challenge from Republican Mitt Romney, the state of the economy remains the critical point. Friday's report underscored how slowly the jobs market is recovering from the depths of the 2008 financial crisis and likely will stoke increased debate amid the halting gains the latest numbers indicate.

While the headline unemployment rate number likely will be something the president touts on the campaign trail, few on Wall Street expected it to be a game-changer relative to the overall jobs picture.

"When you look at the payrolls numbers, they are bumping along where we have been around this 100,000 level, which is not enough to consistently reduce the unemployment rate," said Lee Ferridge, head of macro strategy for North America at State Street Global Markets. "The overall message is one of plodding along. It's OK, it's not disastrous, but it's nowhere near where the Fed wants it to be."

Wall Street reacted positively to the report, with the stock market futures modestly higher after the report.

Health care added the most jobs, with 44,000, while transportation and warehousing grew 17,000. Financial services added 13,000 as well and leisure and hospitality, a cornerstone of the job gains for the past two and a half years, rose a more modest 11,000.

The greatest losses came in manufacturing, which fell 16,000.

The closely watched average work week metric edged higher to 34.5 hours while average hourly earnings increased seven cents to $19.81.

Labor's birth-death model, which estimates jobs created and lost through newly opened and closed businesses, impacted the September numbers little, actually showing a decline of 9,000.


© 2012 CNBC.com


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012election; election2012

1 posted on 10/05/2012 11:07:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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Horsecrap.

Total manipulation. Total disregard for the lost labor force.


2 posted on 10/05/2012 11:25:58 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: neverdem

So Obama is thumping his chest over point two percent after so many weeks of unemployment over 8 percent? It’s like bragging that you got a D-minus instead of an F.


3 posted on 10/05/2012 11:39:05 PM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: neverdem; no-to-illegals; All

I heard various reports today. Some questioning the figures, others explaining them. According to one independent analyst there was a lot of hiring this summer, but the businesses were slow in reporting their data which just came in recently. Many small start-ups don’t make it into the program because they are not registered yet.

I used to run a resume service and I know that in white collar jobs, August was a big resume month, with a lot of people aiming for Sept. jobs. Also, a lot of full time student summer workers return to school in Sept.


4 posted on 10/06/2012 12:21:13 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: neverdem

What a joke.


5 posted on 10/06/2012 12:44:25 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: gleeaikin
"Also, a lot of full time student summer workers return to school in Sept."

Notice that the unemployment figures went up in August and down in September. I think it reflected these students dropping their summer jobs in August to attend school in September. When the students left their jobs in August, that impacted the unemployment numbers. When the students went to school in September, they took up new employment at their school. For instance, some began work in the college dining halls. Some began work in the college library. You add these new jobs around the country and you get some real numbers.

6 posted on 10/06/2012 1:44:34 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: neverdem

Expect an unexpected revision on page 106, on Dec. 7th 2012.


7 posted on 10/06/2012 2:17:57 AM PDT by MaxMax
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To: neverdem
I heard someone say that 7.9% is the magic number, with no incumbent ever getting re-elected with anything higher......

I predict the MSM will continue to hammer us with the magic 7 figure up thru election day.......

8 posted on 10/06/2012 2:55:40 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (')
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To: neverdem

9 posted on 10/06/2012 3:49:57 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Gene Eric

Someone we gotta get Romney to make an add like this:

We all know this and it is a waste of time if Romney can’t explain it...20M fewer jobs means 0bummer shrank the economy...his ads need to show pictures of closed businesses, boarded up houses, and mention to get 7.8% with this many people on foodstamps, welfare, and selling their kids clothes (show yard sales and Ebay)...end the ad with, (how does that 7.8% unemployment feel to ya?)


10 posted on 10/06/2012 4:09:56 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: neverdem
MSNBC? PUHLEEESEEE!

Pitiful!

vaudine

11 posted on 10/06/2012 4:13:17 AM PDT by vaudine
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To: Gene Eric

There are two very politicized Obama departments who could easily have rigged this data:

1) It was the US census bureau that did the household polling. This is the same crew that for weeks had temporary census ‘workers’ meeting for once a week, one-hour meetings. Even though there was no actual work for them to do, they could thus be counted as employed. I’ve no doubt that the census is very aware of how they could have tweaked the list of who they called in order to goose the employment figures. They could have simply executed that by some minor adjustment to their methodology in selecting households to call.

2) Obama’s communist-led labor department then additionally had free rein to interpret the raw data by whatever similarly tweaked methodology they would have liked.

The fix no doubt was in, and in fact the Obama administration has been rigging the numbers with various changes in assumptions—the numbers are rife with ‘assumptions’—for months, simply to keep the figures within range of a sub-8% dip.


12 posted on 10/06/2012 5:04:56 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: neverdem
“The level of part-time workers reported the largest jump for the month, gaining 582,000.”

It didn't happen. The Dept of Labor Secretary has Communist ties and this is the same propaganda that was used in East Germany till the people figured out the fraud.

13 posted on 10/06/2012 5:13:35 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obamacare, the final nail in the US coffin.)
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To: neverdem

Let’s see..when biden loses to Ryan, unemployment will drop to 7.2..then after obama’s next bad debate the number will be 6.5..then the next bad debate by obama the number will fall to 4.8..wow..who knew when dems struggle the hiring increases!!!


14 posted on 10/06/2012 5:34:40 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (Sarah Palin-"Lord knows she's attractive" says bitter Andrea Mitchell and the rest of the MSM)
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To: neverdem

http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/mikeshedlock/2012/10/06/unemployment_rate_78_the_webs_most_complete_report/page/full/


15 posted on 10/06/2012 5:36:56 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: neverdem

900,000 jobs show up from August to Septemberr, but no one knows where they came from.


16 posted on 10/06/2012 6:31:40 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: neverdem

So there were 873,000 vacant jobs that no one had applied for during the past several months and got filled in one month?? BS.


17 posted on 10/06/2012 6:44:04 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 ("It's better to vote for a Republican you don't know than wind up with a dim you don't like".)
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