Posted on 10/07/2012 10:09:24 AM PDT by barmag25
Chattanooga-area evangelical church pastors may believe the Mormon faith is a cult and may not consider Gov. Mitt Romney a Christian, but they said that won't stop them from considering a vote for him in next month's presidential election.
More than eight in 10 voters in a Pew Forum poll this summer said they were comfortable with the Republican nominee's faith or it didn't matter to them. Nineteen percent said they were uncomfortable with his faith.
"We are electing a president, not a pastor," said Tim Shoap, co-pastor of Signal Mountain Bible Church. "I want the best and most effective leader we can get, [one] who will represent the interests of the people and the country in keeping with the original intent of the Constitution. For me, that makes the Mormon issue largely irrelevant."
While members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints consider themselves Christians, several local evangelical pastors do not.
"Mormonism is a cult," said Jeremy Roberts, pastor of Highland Park Baptist Church. "Mormons are polytheistic universalists who deny that Jesus is the eternal son of God."
However, he said he would base his vote on "policy, leadership skills and who I perceive will most likely lead the country in the direction I believe is best."
(Excerpt) Read more at timesfreepress.com ...
“I am amused and amazed at the insistence of Romney supports to attempt to make those who do not support him, into something subhuman, or ignorant or liars or deranged or a whole myriad of things.
The ABO is an understandable point of view, one in which I do not share, and not for a single reason.
Personally, I have yet to hear a reason to dismiss Romney’s record and vote for him or a reason to vote for him other than ABO.
Normally, what I hear is that I am lying (or anyone else is lying) about his record.
Romney’s record is what it is.
If a person wishes to support him knowing his record, then it is a decision I respect.
I chose to not support Romney because of his record, I would like the same level of respect, instead all I get (along with everyone else) is monkey poo bombs.
Oh, well. I’ve got a shower and the ability to laugh.
So have good evening......”
Yup, and the funny thing is, they can go over to DU and see the same thing happening, but in reverse, and both sides claim to be superior to the other.
That quote from Macbeth rings ever louder for me. “It is a tale, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”
Sweep up your straw and go have a warm glass of milk. Maybe you can have a relieving ‘movement’ in the morning. And just in case you thought you could spittle this bit unnoticed ... “If a person wishes to support him knowing his record, then it is a decision I respect.” You do not respect ANY decision to vote for Romney, and to claim you do is very dishonest given your recent posting history.
“The self appointed queen of the flying Inmans has already tried that one, try to get new material, poseur. And the LDS inc have yet to build a ‘temple’ in East Tennessee last I heard. Your mooselimb butties are building a big Mosque out around Nashville I’ve heard. Have you made your donation yet? You seem to think taqqiya is your friend at FR. Sad that”
That whistling noise you heard just go past you. It’s the sound of your hypocrisy. Party shills always have a hard time noticing it.
I reject Mormonism as an anti-Christian heresy, a false religion, a made-up religion. It gets Christ and the Holy Trinity wrong, and therefore it is not Christian.
At the same time, I am ready to vote for Romney. There is nothing in his religion that would keep him from carrying out the duties of the office of President. He seems competent at what he does, and he would certainly govern far more conservatively than Obama.
Also, if there is anybody who would be in favor of religious liberty in this country, it would be a Mormon. And religious liberty is under attack by the Obama administration.
OK DEPENDS
definition begotten
“To suggest that Romney and Obama are exactly the same is more than delusional.”
Like Adam Smith’s economic philosophy is exactly the same as Karl Marx’s economic philosophy.
The delusional often have little or no capacity to listen to and sincerely consider alternate points of view.
you’re a good man; and thanks for a great post
well said
I always thought it was strange that when God helped create the United States He kept Mormonism a secret until a hundred years later, and decided to tell Joe Smith.
And then He said, ‘Oh by the way, you can gave lots of wives now, but don’t let black people advance in My church until I change my mind in another hundred years.’
LOL I guess He really does work in mysterious ways.
“Romney 1st applied for a deferment after high school to attend college in California. His 2nd was to go on his mission. After completing his mission he applied for a 3rd.deferment to attend BYU. He had at least 3 deferments. No he definitely NEVER served in the military.”
I applied and got two college deferments, and eventually was drafted and served. Many did not serve (including recent favorite Gingrich), and I have no animosity towards them.
When did you volunteer and then serve?
When terms are defined the answer changes.
Elder Dallin H. Oaks
"We may talk of men being redeemed by the efficacy of his [Christ's] blood; but the truth is that that blood has no efficacy to wash away our sins. That must depend upon our own action." [ LDS Apostle Amasa M. Lyman, Journal of Discourses, Vol. 7, p. 299, 1859]
As you may or may not know, that teaching from Lyman was called into review and LYman had to recant under LDSinc orders. So quopting from the JofD is problematic at best, giving LDSinc a way to argue both sides of any issue coming up in regards to Christianity and Smithism.
“The fleshly body of Jesus required a Mother as well as a Father. Therefore, the Father and Mother of Jesus, according to the flesh, must have been associated in the capacity of husband and wife; hence the Virgin Mary must have been, for the time being, the lawful wife of God the Father: we use the term lawful wife, because it would be blasphemous in the highest degree to say that He overshadowed her or begat the Savior unlawfully. He had a lawful right to overshadow the Virgin Mary IN THE CAPACITY OF A HUSBAND, and beget a Son. Whether God the Father gave Mary to Joseph for time only, or for time and eternity, we are not informed. It may be that He only gave her to be the wife of Joseph while in this mortal state, and that He intended after the resurrection to again take her as one of his own wives to raise up immortal spirits in eternity.”
Apostle Orson Pratt, “The Seer,” Oct. 1853, p. 158).
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Ezra Taft Benson from 1988, published while he was
president of the LDS church: “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints proclaims that Jesus Christ is the Son of God in THE MOST LITERAL SENSE.
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Brigham Young:
“The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood—was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers.” (Journal of Discourses, volume 8, p. 115)
“When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. Now, remember from this time forth, and for ever, that Jesus Christ was not begotten by the Holy Ghost.” (Journal of Discourses, Vol. 1, pp. 50, 51)
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“And Christ was born into the world as the literal Son of this Holy Being; he was born in the same personal, real, and literal sense that any mortal son is born to a mortal father. There is nothing figurative about his paternity; he was begotten, conceived and born in the normal and natural course of events,...Christ is the Son of Man, meaning that his Father (the Eternal God!) is a Holy Man.” Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 742
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lds jesus was conceived by the lds god having sex with Mary.
The lds jesus is not the Biblical “only begotten Son of God Almighty”.
However, this is an example of how mormonism uses the same words, and assigns different meanings to them.
Duplicity is the hallamrk of Smithism, as the heirarchy tout the Journal if Discourses as most valuable to LDS, yet the documents are filled with heresies that ran straight from the founder(s) and then have been recanted by later 'saints'. Apparently the god of MormonISM can't get it right from the beginning. But we could expect that, since the entire religion is a man-made construct from a sexual predator of married women, reinforced by another of the same ilk and subsequent 'leadership'.
How true.
So what?
I am always amused that you seem to want to answer questions that where not asked.
“When a wise man debates a fool, the fool rages and laughs, and there is no peace and quiet.” Proverbs 29:9
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