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UK: Nine in ten Scots 'living off state's patronage' [Conservative MP's Mitt Romney moment]
The Telegraph ^ | 10/7/2012 | Simon Johnson

Posted on 10/08/2012 2:01:42 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

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1 posted on 10/08/2012 2:01:49 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman

This is beginning to sound”Familiar”??????????????????


2 posted on 10/08/2012 2:05:47 PM PDT by bandleader
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This is one issue where conservatives around the world need to take a deep breath, tell the truth and then don’t back down. Middle class people don’t like hearing that they are sponging off the public teat too. But the only want to stop the death spiral of the Welfare State is to cut off middle class entitlements (along with a lot of lower class entitlements).


3 posted on 10/08/2012 2:05:47 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: bruinbirdman

going independent might not sound so good when the money stops coming


4 posted on 10/08/2012 2:08:10 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: bruinbirdman

They’re saving their money...............


5 posted on 10/08/2012 2:11:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Is it just me, or is Hillary! starting to look like Benjamin Franklin?.................)
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To: bandleader
I guess that William Wallace is spinning in his grave.

"“They may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom!”

6 posted on 10/08/2012 2:16:08 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: bruinbirdman

I like her. “corrosive sense of entitlement” - well put.


7 posted on 10/08/2012 2:16:42 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: bruinbirdman
She is the leader of the Scottish Conservative Party in the Scottish Parliament.

There are only 15 Conservatives and there are 106 left wing parliamentarians: 67 Scottish National Party, 37 Labour, 2 Green.

Currently, the government of Scotland intends to hold an independence referendum in 2014.

If Scotland declares independence, it will immediately become one of the developed world's poorest countries and most indebted countries, with one of the highest rates of unemployment, of welfare dependency, of drug dependency and of illegitimacy.

It will also be 98% white and 96% British.

8 posted on 10/08/2012 2:19:09 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GeronL
That's probably why 52% of Scots vote for the Scottish National Party, whose platform is "independence plus welfare", but the polls say only 27% will vote yes on an independence referendum.
9 posted on 10/08/2012 2:22:05 PM PDT by wideawake
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They better hope that ten or twenty million Englishmen don’t register to vote as Tam O’Shanter MacTavish in the referendum, vote for independence.


10 posted on 10/08/2012 2:26:49 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Orwell in the throes of a demonic possession could not have come up with the "tuck rule".)
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To: wideawake

Scots were once renown as the most industrious and educated people in the world. They’ve come a long way under socialism.


11 posted on 10/08/2012 2:28:39 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Orwell in the throes of a demonic possession could not have come up with the "tuck rule".)
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To: wideawake

When I become President, I’ll offer immigration and immediate citizenship to the other 10%.


12 posted on 10/08/2012 2:30:07 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Orwell in the throes of a demonic possession could not have come up with the "tuck rule".)
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To: KeyLargo

That’s been turned around to:

“They may take away our liberty, but they’ll never take away our FREEBIES!”


13 posted on 10/08/2012 2:30:13 PM PDT by MeganC (Our forefathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: wideawake
"Currently, the government of Scotland intends to hold an independence referendum in 2014.

If Scotland declares independence, it will immediately become one of the developed world's poorest countries and most indebted countries, with one of the highest rates of unemployment, of welfare dependency, of drug dependency and of illegitimacy."

Guess that would mean a no vote from those on the welfare receiving end?

yitbos

14 posted on 10/08/2012 2:38:21 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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Thats what really pisses me off about the Scottish electorate at the moment. The fact that most of them have been willing to vote for a pro-independence party, but apparently not willing to vote for actual independence.

It tells me that the Scots do not really believe in the Union, except as a meal ticket. I know there are Scots like thescotsman etc here on FR who are genuine British patriots, but they are very much in the minority, and most ‘pro-union’ Scots consider themselves British only as a matter of convenience. Do I really want these fairweather brits and leeches as my compatriots?


15 posted on 10/08/2012 2:38:43 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: MeganC

God created whisky to keep the Scott’s from ruling the world!


16 posted on 10/08/2012 2:39:14 PM PDT by resistance (abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
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To: bruinbirdman
Ultimately, true independence would kill Labour in England proper.

The Labour Party in Scotland will publicly campaign with the SNP but will, through backchannels, move heaven and earth to suppress the independence vote.

And all they have to do is point out that independnece means fewer checks.

17 posted on 10/08/2012 2:41:45 PM PDT by wideawake
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Rob Roy and William Wallace spin in their graves.

Well,l the Scots did give us golf and single malts


18 posted on 10/08/2012 2:45:04 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("On the ascent of Olympus, what's a botched bar or two?" -Artur Schnabel)
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To: sinsofsolarempirefan
Well that's why they have "DevoMax" - since it would preserve the pound and the welfare payments in Scotland, while effectively allowing the Scottish state to just owe England the money for defense and other services.

The problem is, it would not permit Scottish Labour to send MPs to the Parliament in London - so even that soft version may wind up a no go.

19 posted on 10/08/2012 2:45:24 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

LOL!


20 posted on 10/08/2012 2:46:42 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse
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