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Old Interview Sheds New Light on Obama's Debate Flop
American Thinker ^ | October 9, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 10/08/2012 11:57:10 PM PDT by neverdem

In February 2001, Julieanna Richardson, as part of an oral history on black Americans called "History Makers," interviewed Barack Obama at length.

Although the 10,000-plus-word interview offers no Eureka moments, it does help demystify Obama's debate failure and deepens the doubt that he uniquely authored his own memoir, Dreams from My Father. Kudos to attorney Barron Sawyer for bringing this interview to light.

Richardson seems to capture the 39-year-old state senator as he was -- cautious, ambitious, and more than a little vain. Given his ambitions, Obama confined his discussion to topics that would not derail his political career. When asked about his influences, for instance, he did not mention Frank Marshall Davis, his communist mentor from Hawaii, or any of the other communists and fellow travelers he cited in Dreams, like Langston Hughes, Richard Wright, W.E.B. DuBois, and Frantz Fanon.

Off the cuff, here as always, Obama did not...

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Complicating Obama's debating posture was his inability to express his truest sentiments. As he told Richardson, he had long been asking himself, "... how do we bring about more just society? You know, what are the institutional arrangements that would give people opportunity?" He had learned as a boy in Indonesia that the wealthy were not "smarter or more able" than the poor, but rather "craftier, stronger or luckier, or more ruthless."

As Obama matured, he projected what he saw in Indonesia to America and came to see that the "racism in the United States is just one expression of sort of a broader set of injustices that you see around the world." Unable to voice his core beliefs in the debate, Obama lacked a true organizing principle around which to order his thoughts. This problem will plague him in the foreign policy debate as well, perhaps even more...

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1 posted on 10/08/2012 11:57:23 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
Unable to voice his core beliefs in the debate

This is a problem of Obama's own doing. He is perfectly able to express his core beliefs. Obama knows, however, that that his beliefs are so offensive to voters that he would end his candidacy by expressing them.

2 posted on 10/09/2012 12:06:12 AM PDT by Kennard
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To: Kennard
I am not so sure I agree with your implication, that his core belief might be political.

Instead, it appears Barack Obama's primary and core belief is that Barack Obama is really amazing.

A close corollary is that Barack Obama believes Barack Obama is entitled to a lot of wonderful things.

3 posted on 10/09/2012 12:13:24 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: neverdem
Nice article.

And nice articles deserve to be surrounded by the adverts that pay for them.

4 posted on 10/09/2012 12:20:55 AM PDT by conservative sympathizer
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To: neverdem

” On one occasion a tennis coach touched Obama’s skin to see if the color rubbed off — and this in Hawaii, mind you”

That’s the biggest line of hooey ever! That line screams Ayers or a white man imagining being black.


5 posted on 10/09/2012 12:21:22 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

The tennis coach also touched obama’s behind thinking obama’s brain was located close to it..


6 posted on 10/09/2012 12:26:36 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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7 posted on 10/09/2012 12:26:54 AM PDT by neverdem ( Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

It’s stoopit how everyone is always looking backwards at this guy.

Get a friggin clue....


8 posted on 10/09/2012 12:30:46 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: neverdem

This definitely rings true to me. We know he’s a Marxist racist and has a well defined agenda which has many aspects that he can only move forward surreptitiously and through surrogates like Holder.

So out in the open, like in a debate, he’s like a spy being interrogated that has to at all times stick to his cover story and never let the truth slip out, but so much tougher because it is a debate in front of 70 million people and he has to perform as well. Huge pressure - an almost impossible task if faced with a competent opponent.


9 posted on 10/09/2012 12:32:36 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: neverdem

As for Dreams From My Father, Bill Ayers claims to be the author.


10 posted on 10/09/2012 12:37:46 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: neverdem

“Obama is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people” Clint Eastwood


11 posted on 10/09/2012 12:46:15 AM PDT by Eagles6 (DNC 2012 Convention: Celebrating infanticide and sodomy. Denying God.What could possibly go wrong?)
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To: neverdem

Well, he couldn’t come right out and defend his plan, the opposite if Romney’s because he would have to admit his SOCIALISM.
Better to look dumb and unprepared than give the other side the ammo to call you what you are: COMMIE!

All the new tapes coming out have little slip ups, like referring to a “more internationalist” foreign policy.
It’s all there; I can’t understand why people didn’t listen to what he was actually saying.
He mentioned the phrase “economic patriotism” code for govt takeover of private industry in the first five minutes of the debate.
(H/T Aaron Klein @ KleinonLine.com)


12 posted on 10/09/2012 12:49:59 AM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: neverdem
Thxs, for the info. :)

13 posted on 10/09/2012 12:52:29 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
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To: AlexW

Textual analysis, both manual and computer, show a 90+% match with the writings of Bill Ayers. Coincidence? I don’t believe in coincidences.


14 posted on 10/09/2012 12:53:53 AM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: max americana

hahaha!


15 posted on 10/09/2012 12:59:48 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Vendome
Re: “It’s stoopit how everyone is always looking backwards at this guy.”

Disagree.

Except for a handful of Conservative researchers, no one has ever looked carefully at this guy's life.

When you apply for a job or a mortgage, complete strangers are passionate about looking backwards at your life.

What makes a presidential candidate any different?

16 posted on 10/09/2012 1:07:38 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Lazamataz
Obama's primary and core belief is that Barack Obama is really amazing

So it was Obama's hubris that caused his weak debate performance? Though I prefer to think that the cause was Obama's repugnant political philosophy, you are probably correct. All the Dems need is a shrewder leader and we'll all be socialists.

17 posted on 10/09/2012 1:22:15 AM PDT by Kennard
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18 posted on 10/09/2012 1:48:14 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: neverdem

And it comes down to this (and we conservatives have known it for years)...

When the cloak of “media” protection is stripped away and his comments can`t be airbrushed into gauzy pronouncements from on high; when he`s questioned and challenged directly by a truly capable opponent; and when he has to hide his true socialistic intentions with ever more lies... Obama simply isn`t that sharp. Like Krauthammer wrote last week, Obama isn`t even half as brilliant as he thinks he is.

The emperor truly has no clothes.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 2:15:11 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Record high turnout is our hope for sending 0bama home. Pray hard!!!)
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To: neverdem

I think the Reader’s Digest version is this: he is ignorant and without balls.


20 posted on 10/09/2012 2:19:59 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Kennard
So it was Obama's hubris that caused his weak debate performance?

Yessir. I further contend that his pride has been the primary obstacle to most of his attempts to govern while in office.

Though I prefer to think that the cause was Obama's repugnant political philosophy, you are probably correct. All the Dems need is a shrewder leader and we'll all be socialists.

There are parts of his philosophy that are repugnant to most Americans, such as the anti-colonialism and the racism he possesses towards whites and especially Jews.

But as to the socialism, you are also probably correct. America is not as anti-Socialist as it used to be, due to the indoctrination at schools and the proliferation of Hispanic and African-American minorities that, on the whole, do not view socialism with disdain.

21 posted on 10/09/2012 2:36:56 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Vendome
It’s stoopit how everyone is always looking backwards at this guy. Get a friggin clue....

?

I don't get it. We are buds, but I don't get this comment.

22 posted on 10/09/2012 2:39:12 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: neverdem
Based on little more than Dreams and his ability to read well, Obama supporters thought Obama a genius and did not shy from saying so. Obama shared their opinion.

Comsidering that Obama's most ardent supporters are Newsreaders who make millions displaying a similar skill, while calling themselves "Journalists", this is hardly surprising.

23 posted on 10/09/2012 3:04:49 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Tallguy

“his ability to read well”

He reads without comprehension; if he was quizzed on what he had just read he would fail.


24 posted on 10/09/2012 3:09:44 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic war against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Lazamataz; Kennard

I think both of you are 100% correct. I don’t think the two are mutually exclusive.


25 posted on 10/09/2012 3:15:18 AM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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To: Lazamataz

I think he’s saying we can beat this guy based on 4y of performance alone. I think incrementally you can pull some voters away from O by throwing this stuff on the wall as well.


26 posted on 10/09/2012 3:18:36 AM PDT by steveyp
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To: neverdem

BTTT


27 posted on 10/09/2012 3:30:44 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them)
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To: neverdem
Obama Speech - Teleprompter Goes Out
28 posted on 10/09/2012 3:34:34 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot

Another bump for a video I need to see.


29 posted on 10/09/2012 3:46:13 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: expat1000
So out in the open, like in a debate, he’s like a spy being interrogated that has to at all times stick to his cover story and never let the truth slip out, but so much tougher because it is a debate in front of 70 million people and he has to perform as well.

That's a terrific analogy!

30 posted on 10/09/2012 4:11:12 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: neverdem
Okay, so Obama's a phony and a dunce. What else is new?
31 posted on 10/09/2012 4:18:25 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: STARWISE; maggief; SE Mom; onyx; penelopesire; LucyT; MinuteGal

Make sure you read the entire article at link....Fauxbombah can no longer keep up the frauxnt.


32 posted on 10/09/2012 4:26:04 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then.)
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To: neverdem

If I understand this, they are saying that Romney is stronger in the debate because he is speaking from core beliefs while Obama would be tarred and feathered if he spoke from his core beliefs, so he must debate from a position with which he disagrees.

Actually, it makes sense.


33 posted on 10/09/2012 4:27:45 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Eagles6

Right!

He fooled the minority voters and the guilt ridden Liberals with no trouble at all. THEIR standards are not exactly insurmountable and their bias has conditioned them to think of mediocrity as an acceptable norm.

If he wants to convince anyone else, he’d have to start making some sense.

He can’t do that and remain within the traditional American political process.

Supporting and accepting an avowed Communist is not something the majority of Americans can properly bring themselves to do at this point.


34 posted on 10/09/2012 4:38:08 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: hoosiermama

My exact conclusion about O. He’s trapped without TOTUS. He cannot tell us what he really thinks because he knows he’d lose half if his support.

Thanks for ping- Cashill is so good.


35 posted on 10/09/2012 4:53:37 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: neverdem
The reader of Dreams had a right to expect more from "the best writer to occupy the White House since Lincoln" than this interview offers.
Do the liberal butt-lickers really call him that?
36 posted on 10/09/2012 4:56:01 AM PDT by samtheman (Obama. Mugabe. Chavez. (Obamugavez))
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To: max americana

Now, that’s funny...


37 posted on 10/09/2012 5:33:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (In the game of life, there are no betting limits)
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To: neverdem

-— Unable to voice his core beliefs in the debate, Obama lacked a true organizing principle around which to order his thoughts. This problem will plague him in the foreign policy debate as well, perhaps even more... -—

Great insight.

On the stump, he normally disguises his marxism as populism. But populism is hard to defend under cross-examination.


38 posted on 10/09/2012 5:53:59 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: Kennard
Obama knows, however, that that his beliefs are so offensive to voters that he would end his candidacy by expressing them.

Post of the Day!

39 posted on 10/09/2012 6:38:35 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: neverdem

Sadly, this represents a large number of black Americans.
Even more sadly, it cannot be fixed.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f66_1349470513

Watch that short video to see some angry black idiots typical of today’s inner city feral black male gangbangers.

Funny, how yet again, we Americans must count on a foreign press to show us the reality of our own inner cities.

.


40 posted on 10/09/2012 6:41:23 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Lazamataz

Huh?

LOL

Of course we are buds. I didn’t see you on tbe thread, irregardless, my comment wasn’t directed at anyone here and certainly not you.

It was an outburst of frustration that no one in enemedia cared.to give this Tard at least a once over. Likely because they are sympatico with their Marxist/Socialist brother.

If I offended the fault is mine but, I was speaking to the article and playing bass in the choir.

Hope you had a good time TX with HG.


41 posted on 10/09/2012 7:48:47 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

You didn’t offend! I was just making sure I didn’t! I understand your meaning now.

The time in Texas was such that I will be making the June (planned) shoot. Texas is too close to miss this.


42 posted on 10/09/2012 8:01:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (WAAAAAAAAAHHHhhhhh.....)
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To: Kennard

That can be extrapolated into leftism/liberalism in general.

They can’t tell people what they intend to do, or else they’d never get the power to do so.


43 posted on 10/09/2012 8:04:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: neverdem

This is basically the same thing that I have been saying, Obama’s domestic policy is the same as his foreign policy, Obama is a post modernist progressive. He believes that the Western White, male, capitalists, have oppressed and exploited the Brown populations of the world throughout history. Speaking of history, Obama also believes that history is nothing but a meta-narrative that designed by those same Western White Capitalist oppressors to secure their own power. Obama ties all these theories together with a big yellow ribbon of relativity. To Obama and his fellow travelers, everything is relative, from history, to culture to even words. Obama believes that there is no one truth, one superior culture, one superior form of government, or one interpretation of the law. Obama believes that everything is relative and that WE, the US have been using the wrong interpretation to benefit ourselves.


44 posted on 10/09/2012 8:16:58 AM PDT by Eva (Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.)
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To: neverdem

If Obama openly said what he actually thinks he would still be a community organizer in Chicago, not the president.


45 posted on 10/09/2012 9:00:07 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: neverdem

The USA gives EVERY person a FREE education K-12. FREE. FREEEEEE.

There is almost no other country in the world- with the possible exception of Canada- that does such.

Refusal by the parents to prepare their kids for school in the first place.

Refusal to attend a school consistently, without abscenses....

Refusal to behave properly in class & in recess.....

Refusal to do homework....

Refusal to show up for tests.....

Hell- Head Start is mostly a free babysitting service!!!

I will bet anyone a prime rib dinner of their choice that Blacks are the poorest performers in all of the above...

They buy into all kinds of theories about how the ‘white man’ keeps them down’, which is absolute bunk.

I pay my taxes, of which about 60% currently go to the schools. I have done so since 1966 when I bought my frist house in So. Calif. I have NO kids!!! 46 years of paying taxes for kids I didn’t produce!!

I never once said a word to the school board that they should overspend my taxes on the whites & leave the blacks in the dust.

I never once voted for anything that would harm a black kid in school.

This country offers EQUAL OPPORTUNITY——it does not guarantee EQUAL RESULTS!!!!!!!!

It’s about time that one of these PACS told the truth about this.

IF you refuse to participate in K, then all thru elementary school, middle school, and high school...then you will be a FAILURE!!!

I won’t hire you. My neighbor won’t hire you. You will be unemployable & a chronic problem for the rest of your years.

YOU created that problem-—not ME!!!

YOU made those choices-—not ME!!!

I am tired to the core of being blamed for YOUR failures....

I have enough of my own!


46 posted on 10/09/2012 9:47:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Lazamataz

Yeah, sorry for the confusion. I was speaking to the article not really the author and certainly not the OP.

Remind me about the June shoot. I’d love to bring a few of my girlfriends and run some rounds through them.

I can make the trek and meet you guys then head on over to Tulsa and see my Mom.

Glad you guys had a great time.

Going back to sleep. My shoulder is killing me.

BTW, ping me on Freepmail. I’m curious as to what you do for a living and would love to meet you and a few other Freepers.

You’re in Atlanta?


47 posted on 10/09/2012 10:30:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Lazamataz

“Barack Obama’s primary and core belief is that Barack Obama is really amazing. A close corollary is that Barack Obama believes Barack Obama is entitled to a lot of wonderful things.”

Post of the day.


48 posted on 10/09/2012 11:09:07 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: ridesthemiles

>> “The USA gives EVERY person a FREE education K-12. FREE. FREEEEEE.” <<

.
No, not an education, an INDOCTRINATION!

A free prefrontal lobotomy.

It’s not just free, it’s mandatory.
.


49 posted on 10/09/2012 2:25:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Thanks neverdem.


50 posted on 10/09/2012 3:02:34 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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