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Kerry, Rice position themselves on Benghazi attack
The Cable ^ | September 27, 2012 | Josh Rogin

Posted on 10/09/2012 5:42:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

The two most discussed candidates to be America's next top diplomat now find themselves on opposite sides of the Libya issue, with U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice in the role of defending the administration's narrative and Sen. John Kerry(D-MA) promising tough congressional oversight while giving the State Department room to conduct its own investigation.

As the controversy over the administration's handling of the issue grows,Rice's comments on the Sept. 11 assault on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi are coming under increasing attack. Her insistence on a number of Sunday talk shows Sept. 16 that,according to the best information available at the time,the attack was an unplanned assault and the result of an anti-Islam video is facing harsh criticism from senators. Administration officials, including most recently Defense Secretary Leon Panetta,have since called it a "terrorist attack," and even Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has indicated that al Qaeda affiliated groups were involved.

"First of all, there's an FBI investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us the definitive word as to what transpired. But putting together the best information that we have available to us today, our current assessment is what happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo,almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, prompted by the video," Rice said Sept. 16 on NBC's Meet the Press.

........Privately,however, Kerry has been pressing the administration for answers. He sent a letter to Deputy Secretary of State Tom Nides about Diplomatic Security on Sept. 17, The letter, which was previously undisclosed but obtained by The Cable,asks Nides to answer a host of questions on the security conditions at the Benghazi consulate and the cooperation of the governments in Egypt,Libya,and Yemen during and after the attacks.....

(Excerpt) Read more at thecable.foreignpolicy.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; embassymurders; impeachnow; libya; secofstate; senjohnkerry; unambsusanrice; waronterror

VIETNAM WAR VETERAN JOHN KERRY'S TESTIMONY BEFORE THE SENATE FOREIGN RELATIONS COMMITTEE, APRIL 22, 1971

1 posted on 10/09/2012 5:42:07 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Kerry is getting tough because he’s been thrown under the bus by Obama for the poor debate performance. The result being NO chance of Kerry EVER being SOS. So, may as well see if he can draw blood before election day.


2 posted on 10/09/2012 5:47:33 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Audentis Fortuna Iuvat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is it posible that Kerry has a shred of purpose? Or is it likely that this is just his schtick?

At any rate, I find myself in the awkward position of sympathising with Kerry here, although I think this is just theatrics on his part.

Gotta keep up the persona dont ya know.


3 posted on 10/09/2012 5:49:04 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Did Kerry ever realease his military records??

I didn’t think so.

To even think that this war criminal who executed a teen aged wounded enemy and got 3 band aid wounds to get out of Viet nam, the man who secretly met with North Viet nam in Paris which was a treasonous act is in the running for Secretary of State, is enough to make a buzzard puke.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1081292/posts


4 posted on 10/09/2012 5:50:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry
Kerry is getting tough because he’s been thrown under the bus by Obama for the poor debate performance. The result being NO chance of Kerry EVER being SOS. So, may as well see if he can draw blood before election day.

Yep his ego has been piqued and his arrogance can't stand it
5 posted on 10/09/2012 5:53:12 AM PDT by uncbob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Having Thomas Pickering as the investigator is desirable because he has many years experience, is not politically affiliated and worked for both dems and gop.

The GOP shouldn't play politics with this but they will.

6 posted on 10/09/2012 5:57:43 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: uncbob

i don’t think so. i think it is just “good cop bad cop”.
“ Kerry(D-MA) promising tough congressional oversight “ is just positioning himself to be able to give better cover.


7 posted on 10/09/2012 5:58:25 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

BTW Cincinatus’ Wife, I am pleased to see that you are who you always were.
Unswayed by the flak that life throws our way.
Soldier on Cincinatus’ Wife.


8 posted on 10/09/2012 6:00:27 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The two most discussed candidates to be America's next top diplomat now find themselves on opposite sides of the Libya issue, with U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice in the role of defending the administration's narrative and Sen. John Kerry(D-MA) promising tough congressional oversight while giving the State Department room to conduct its own investigation.

Two most discussed candidates? For what, big toilet mints monitor? Are you kidding me? Her Heinous hasn't done enough damage that they want to compound it with the incompetent likes of Susan Clueless Rice and Jean Francois Kerry?

9 posted on 10/09/2012 6:03:09 AM PDT by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry; All
Heinz-Kerry are huge HUGE global warming advocates (met at the Earth Summit in Rio, or so the story goes). The Heinz money funds socialist causes (which includes her husband). Paul and Anne Ehrlich [along with Barack Obama's Science and Technology Adviser and Policy Czar - John P. Holdren] wrote "Population Bomb" and have been actively working to de-developing the United States to this very day.

Heinz Award: Paul and Anne Ehrlich "Paul and Anne Ehrlich receive the Heinz Award in the Environment in recognition of their thoughtful study of difficult environmental issues, their commitment to bringing their findings to the attention of policy makers and the public, and their willingness to suggest solutions.

Paul and Anne Ehrlich have been producing important scientific research for over three decades. Distinguished by their passionate determination to communicate their findings to non-scientific audiences, they have long seen it as their responsibility to alert humanity to the dangers of ecological carelessness and arrogance. This perspective, uncommon among scientists, has made them the target of often harsh criticism - criticism they accept with grace as the price of their forthrightness.

They are also distinguished by their willingness to offer and seek solutions to the problems they identify. Their prescriptions, sometimes misrepresented as draconian, are rooted in the same Judeo-Christian principles that are the source of the Ehrlichs' profound ethic of stewardship. It would be difficult to name any other couple who have made such a long-standing and substantive contribution to scientific and policy understanding of population, environment, and resource issues. As scientists, authors and educators, Paul and Anne Ehrlich have for 30 years devoted themselves to enhancing public understanding of a wide range of environmental issues, including conservation biology, biodiversity and habitat preservation.

The basis of the Ehrlichs' work has always been their science, and they have compiled an important body of scientific research over the years. But it is their environmental advocacy - particularly in the area of population - for which the Ehrlichs are most well known. Paul Ehrlich made a memorable debut on the world scene with the publication of his 1968 book, The Population Bomb, warning that the Earth's resources could not indefinitely support the planet's growing population. In a 1990 sequel, The Population Explosion, Paul and Anne Ehrlich provided an unflinching update.

Setting forth challenging but prescient work was to become a hallmark of the Ehrlichs' careers. Several decades ago, they did it again, becoming the first to raise the alarm about a possible resurgence of infectious diseases - another controversial theory now taken seriously.

Paul Ehrlich, currently Bing Professor of Population Studies in the Department of Biological Sciences at Stanford University, and Anne Ehrlich, senior research associate in the biology and policy coordination center founded by the couple at Stanford's Center for Conservation Biology, have never suggested that population issues represent the whole of the planet's problems. In fact they have been forceful advocates for broadening the agenda of the environmental movement to include such issues as biodiversity, poverty, consumption, carrying capacity, energy supplies, agriculture and food, global warming, nuclear weapons, international economics, environmental ethics, and sustainable development.

The Ehrlichs have displayed rare leadership in seeking to translate meaningful science into workable policy. Far from being prophets of doom, they are spirited optimists, whose unrivaled contributions have flowed from a belief that the future is still ours to make.

Note: This profile is excerpted from the commemorative brochure published at the time of the awards' presentation.

UPDATES SINCE RECEIVING THE HEINZ AWARD

July 2006 - Nearly 500 bird species worldwide have become extinct in the last five millennia because of human activities according to a new report co-authored by Paul Ehrlich. Ten additional species will go extinct each year based on these trends unless society changes its behavior. - Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences

May 2004 - The Ehrlichs together author One with Nineveh: Politics, Consumption, and the Human Future. The textbook concerns issues of population growth and control.

February 2003 - Paul Ehrlich's controversial article entitled "Genes and cultures: What creates our behavioral phenome?" appears in the science journal, Current Anthropology. The article provides "a detailed critique of genetic determinism" and describes many basic and accepted assumptions about what characteristics are a result of DNA and which are not. - Genomics & Genetics Weekly July 2001 - Paul Ehrlich receives the Eminent Ecologist Award from the Ecological Society of America for his revolutionary contributions to the science world. - Science Blog

May 2001 - Paul Ehrlich authors Human Natures: Genes, Cultures, and the Human Prospect, a book that aims "to explore for nonscientists the range of what we know about human evolution, both biological and cultural." - American Scientist

March 2001 - Paul Ehrlich is honored with the Distinguished Scientist Award from the American Institute of Biological Sciences. The award goes to Ehrlich for his pioneering efforts to inform the public of population concerns. - American Institute of Biological Sciences

June 1999 - Paul Ehrlich receives the Blue Planet Prize, "the world's most lucrative environmental award." The prize, which consists of a $422,000 grant from the Asahi Glass Foundation, goes to Ehrlich "for his research on solutions to pressing environmental problems." Ehrlich plans to use the money to continue current research he is conducting in Costa Rica. - The San Francisco Chronicle

June 1998 - The Ehrlichs are honored with the $200,000 Tyler Prize for Environmental Achievement, "an award for environmental science, energy, and medicine."

October 1996 - The Ehrlichs release their latest book entitled Betrayal of Science and Reason: How Anti-Environmental Rhetoric Threatens Our Future. The book is intended to honestly make the public aware of just "how much damage industrial emissions, pollutants and synthetic products are doing to the environment." - The Washington Post

August 1996 - Paul Ehrlich appears in a television special called "Paul Ehrlich and the Population Bomb". The special details Ehrlich and his decades worth of predictions and warnings about overpopulation and overconsumption in our world today. - The New York Times"

10 posted on 10/09/2012 6:04:49 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: mylife

:) You made my day. Thank you.


11 posted on 10/09/2012 6:06:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Anyone with any common sense at all would have realized that Libya )a country that has supported and hosted terrorists groups for years= was unstable and unsafe. Of all the embassies and consulates in the post Sept 11 world this was the weakest. For the state department to turn down the request from the embassy for more security was not just an act of incompetence but a criminal act. Fire Hillery Clinton and anyone else involved in this debacle.
12 posted on 10/09/2012 6:11:49 AM PDT by Americanexpat (�It is going to get even worse now that the)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Has there ever been a time when this country was run by this many elected and appointed crooks?

Maybe crooks isn’t the right word—maybe the word I’m looking for is treasonists.............


13 posted on 10/09/2012 6:14:27 AM PDT by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We’d like some answers from this Administration....if that’s OK. No hurry and if it’s too much of a bother, just forget it. I have to even ask but the damned Tea Party is making me do it “


14 posted on 10/09/2012 6:20:50 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: Ben Ficklin

and worked for both dems and gop. ....And got butchered by the Dems when he was up for the Supreme Court.


15 posted on 10/09/2012 6:26:00 AM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: Venturer

this war criminal who executed a teen aged wounded enemy
(and meeting with the enemy)
///
great reminders of this traitor.
now, we have warriors in Prison, for the crime of killing terrorists and enemies of our country.
(or for simply taking photos.)


16 posted on 10/09/2012 6:26:00 AM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why is it that we haven’t heard a peep about Donilon’s role in this mess?


17 posted on 10/09/2012 6:29:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

18 posted on 10/09/2012 6:31:12 AM PDT by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Elendur

Yes real warriors imprisoned or run out of the military while this disgusting coward is up for Secretary of State.

People like Allan West who defended his men and the Dr. who refused to go on his third tour of Iraq until Obama proved he was American.


19 posted on 10/09/2012 6:33:30 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Safetgiver

That was Charles Pickering. And was 5th Circuit judge.


20 posted on 10/09/2012 6:45:01 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Venturer
[(kerry) got 3 band aid wounds to get out of Viet nam]

Two of these resulted from Kerry firing his grenade launcher at a point that would put him on the bare edge of the shrapnel radius. The last one resulted from throwing a frag grenade into a large cache of rice and getting cut by an ejected rice grain. A Navy surgeon scoffed at the first “wound” so Kerry simply forwarded the Purple Heart paperwork to Sen. Ted Kennedy's office who got it approved.

21 posted on 10/09/2012 8:21:24 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Ben Ficklin
There's no reason the State Dept. can't come up with some kind of report within 30 days.

The reason they don't want to is not that it would be perceived as partisan, but that State will be unable to cover its tracks.

The Pickering stunt is a stall to get past elections; another cynical stunt by Madame Hillary.

22 posted on 10/09/2012 9:55:18 AM PDT by what's up
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