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Oakland, Macomb, and Wayne (!) Counties in Michigan in Romeny's Camp?
10/11/2012 | taildragger

Posted on 10/11/2012 5:27:46 AM PDT by taildragger

Folks,

You can find the story at the various banned from FR Detroit Media Outlets.

It was on TV this a.m. and I was shocked at what they were reporting and it dosen't fit IMHO with the overall number or Romney being down....

What was said was Romney is ahead in Oakland, Macomb ( home of the "Reagan Democrats" and 2 points ahead in Wayne County.

That one Wayne is striking, Detroit is in Wayne, that to me means the burbs around "Detwaa" that are part of Wayne have thrown "O" overboard.

From what I know it is these 3 counties and Wastenaw ( Ann Arbor is in that one, lost cause) that can swing Michigan towards a Dem as the rest of the State goes "Red"...

With the time remaining, the momentum, I can't see how Romeny doesn't have a shot a winning Michigan.

The question begs, can Romney-Ryan drag Pete Hokestra across the finish line with him. I am not impressed with Pete so far, Hoekstra is looking like a dullard right now...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: counties; election; michigan; romney; vanity

1 posted on 10/11/2012 5:27:50 AM PDT by taildragger
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To: taildragger
Moderator, Oops... Can you change Mitt's spelling in the title ( I am embarassed, more coffee needed ! :-))
2 posted on 10/11/2012 5:29:29 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: taildragger; SeekAndFind; LS; Perdogg; napscoordinator; God luvs America; nutmeg; SoFloFreeper; ...

ping


3 posted on 10/11/2012 5:35:29 AM PDT by Perdogg (Vote like the US Constitution depends on it - it does!!)
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To: taildragger
Romney won't win Washtenaw or Wayne County. Even Reagan lost Wayne County.

If Romney keeps Washtenaw County under 60% and Wayne under 66% Obama he'll win the state.

4 posted on 10/11/2012 5:36:27 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: Darren McCarty

I agree w/ Moscow on the Hudson Land, but what if Wayne has thrown in the towel, all I can say is wow....


5 posted on 10/11/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: taildragger
It shouldn't be surprising that Romney would do well in that area. Its where he was born and its his strongest area of support in the state during primaries.

However Oakland county has a particularly stupid brand of democrat fraudsters who get caught again and again and again, yet never learn.

Election fraud warrant to be issued against candidate in Oakland County race
6 posted on 10/11/2012 5:39:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Darren McCarty

People outside the state underestimate how far left Washtenaw county really is due to the presence of Ann Arbor.

Berkley East.


7 posted on 10/11/2012 5:43:26 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

Thanks for sharing that story...I sent the link on to a bunch of my friends.


8 posted on 10/11/2012 5:43:30 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Springman; cyclotic; netmilsmom; RatsDawg; PGalt; FreedomHammer; queenkathy; madison10; ...
These counties are mostly outside my wheelhouse but maybe the rest of you have an opinion.

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9 posted on 10/11/2012 5:51:43 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
CC...

Thanks for all you MI efforts!

10 posted on 10/11/2012 5:55:05 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: taildragger
MI went 57-41 for Obama in 2008. He won by 825,000 votes.

What was said was Romney is ahead in Oakland, Macomb ( home of the "Reagan Democrats" and 2 points ahead in Wayne County.

In 2008

Oakland -- 56%-42% for Obama 96,000 vote margin.

Macomb -- 53%-45% for Obama 36,000 vote margin

Wayne -- 74%-25% for Obama 440,000 vote margin

I have a hard time believing that Romney is ahead in Wayne. If he is, it is all over.

11 posted on 10/11/2012 5:58:42 AM PDT by kabar
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To: Darren McCarty

The big change in Wayne County is the evacuation of Detroit. Perhaps enough voters have left to shift the majority.


12 posted on 10/11/2012 6:00:34 AM PDT by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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To: taildragger
Wayne County's more dem than even Washtenaw although less crazy. Detroit makes the People's Republic of A2 and Ypsi look like swing areas due to being 90% black.

Wayne County won't come close to flipping. With the polling results on TV, my gut says most of the polling was likely in either the Grosse Pointes or Northville area countering Detroit. If downriver is flipping, that would be significant as well with the union strength there. We stole a state house seat there in 2010, and almost took a second one.

The good news is that if Wayne County is even within 30pts, then Obama is gone.

As far as my leftist county goes, I'm actually seeing a lot of Romney signs here in the townships and my area is about 50/50. We won't win, but if we limit the major damage to the cities, we'll be alright.

13 posted on 10/11/2012 6:01:11 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: kabar

2008 was a special case of the first “black” president which really shook things up. 2004 was a much closer election.


14 posted on 10/11/2012 6:03:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: kabar

Really. But, as strange as it seems, we’re seeing something like that in Cuyahoga (Cleveland), where Dems are down 60,000 votes from 08. However, I’ll believe this one when I see it.


15 posted on 10/11/2012 6:03:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: kabar
I have a hard time believing that Romney is ahead in Wayne. If he is, it is all over.

Imagine my shock seeing their green pie charts at the crack of dawn saying he is ahead by 2% their... Holy Wipeout Batman....

That is why I posted I what I saw this morning, are we looking at a route that will have Dem's reaching for the Xanax? Their are posters here that believe "Da One" will not break 42% and the 1 or 2 percent for goofball candidates leaves us with a 56-57% Romney win. It is movement like this in MI that could make this a reality IMHO....

16 posted on 10/11/2012 6:06:05 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: cripplecreek

Michigan is in play. Ann is coming to Grand Rapids Friday.

http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/10/ann_romney_to_campaign_for_hus.html


17 posted on 10/11/2012 6:17:10 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: cripplecreek

Yes, Ann Arbor is a problem, even with the farming areas surrounding that city Washtenaw County doesn’t stand a chance. Wayne county has become majorly depopulated, wonder if it is enough to make a difference.


18 posted on 10/11/2012 6:17:19 AM PDT by madison10
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To: taildragger

Unless the decline of Detroit has caused a massive population change in Wayne county, I do not see how it goes republican.


19 posted on 10/11/2012 6:18:35 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: crosslink
We don't need GR.. She needs to be in Westland, or any surrounding communities. I'd love to see Ann and Mitt jsut show up in Downtown Detwaa and just walk around glad handing. Go into the belly of the metaphorical beast just to screw with Obama's head.... Or go to a Tigers game and glad hand their if they continue :-)...
20 posted on 10/11/2012 6:23:30 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: taildragger; LS

The 2010 United States Census indicates Wayne County had a 2010 population of 1,820,584. This is a decrease of -240,578 people from the 2000 United States Census. Overall, the county had a -11.7% growth rate during this ten year period. In 2010 there were 702,749 households and 450,651 families in the county. The population density was 2,974.4 per square mile (1,148.4 square kilometers). There were 821,693 housing units at an average density of 1,342.5 per square mile (518.3 square kilometers). The racial and ethnic makeup of the county was 49.6% White, 40.3% Black or African American, 0.3% Native American, 2.5% Asian, 5.2% Hispanic or Latino, 0.1% from other races, and 2.0% from two or more races.

There were 702,749 households out of which 33.1% had children under the age of 18 living with them, 37.4% were husband and wife families, 20.7% had a female householder with no husband present, 35.9% were non-families, and 30.7% were made up of individuals. The average household size was 2.56 and the average family size was 3.22.

In the county the population was spread out with 25.4% under age of 18, 9.7% from 18 to 24, 25.5% from 25 to 44, 26.8% from 45 to 64, and 12.7% who were 65 years of age or older. The median age was 37 years. For every 100 females there were 92.4 males. For every 100 females age 18 and over, there were 88.7 males.

The 2010 American Community Survey 1-year estimate indicates the median income for a household in the county was $39,408 and the median income for a family was $49,176. Males had a median income of $26,823 versus $17,744 for females. The per capita income for the county was $20,948. About 18.6% of families and 23.7% of the population were below the poverty line, including 34.8% of those under the age 18 and 11.7% of those age 65 or over.


21 posted on 10/11/2012 6:23:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: taildragger

Gravis Marketing Poll - Michigan

Obama 46%
Romney 44.4%
Dems- 36.5%, Rep 32.2%, Ind 32.3%

http://gravismarketing.blogspot.com/2012/10/latest-poll-michigan-shows.html


22 posted on 10/11/2012 6:26:19 AM PDT by arichtaxpayer
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To: kabar

I think the question is: will the dem base show up? I just don’t see the Obama signs or bumper stickers, anywhere (I’m in Macomb Co.). I’ll be going to a UofM football game this weekend in Ann Arbor...I’ll be paying attention to this.


23 posted on 10/11/2012 6:29:22 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: kabar
That was with McCain pulling out. 2004 and to a lesser extent 2000 was closer.

In 2000: (Gore 51-47, winning by 217,000 votes)
Oakland - 49-48 for Gore, 7,000 vote margin
Macomb - 50-47 for Gore, 8,000 vote margin
Wayne - 69-29 for Gore, 307,000 vote margin
Washtenaw - 60-36 for Gore, 34,000 vote margin
Livingston - 59-38 for Bush, 16,000 vote margin
Monroe - 51-47 for Gore, 2,500 vote margin
2004 (Kerry won 51-48, winning by 165,000 votes)

Oakland - 50-49 for Kerry, 3,000 vote margin
Macomb - 50-49 for Bush, 6,000 vote margin
Wayne - 69-30 for Kerry, 343,000 vote margin
Washtenaw - 64-36 for Kerry, 48,000 vote margin
Livingston - 63-36 for Bush, 25,000 vote margin
Monroe - 51-49 for Bush, 1,400 vote margin

24 posted on 10/11/2012 6:30:09 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: taildragger

If the Detroit Tigers win tonight’s game it will provide a perfect opportunity for Romney to spend a few minutes at the next game in Detroit.


25 posted on 10/11/2012 6:30:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek
I hope someone from the Romney team is seeing this, If he take Paul with him too. Ya know even the sports media types will want to talk sports bla bla bla, but it is air-time :-)....
26 posted on 10/11/2012 6:40:51 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: cripplecreek

Please add me to the ping list.


27 posted on 10/11/2012 6:47:51 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: taildragger

Dude...you better get over to South Detroit (you know...home of the “ballet”) and recruit a few ex-pat voters to make sure “Romeny” get the numbers.

Oh...and give “Tabitha” a five-spot on my behalf. Just mention my name, she will remember.


28 posted on 10/11/2012 7:01:41 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: taildragger
Jorge is not fond of your speeling [sic] error.


29 posted on 10/11/2012 7:07:06 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

LOL! Never been too funny....


30 posted on 10/11/2012 7:10:32 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

LOL! Never been too funny....


31 posted on 10/11/2012 7:10:56 AM PDT by taildragger (( Fubarward Obama 2012, think about it :-) ))
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To: taildragger

..wasn’t Macomb the county that every Michigan watcher kept their eyes on because of the strong presence of Reagan Democrats? If Michigan goes RED it will be a complete route nationally...


32 posted on 10/11/2012 7:17:13 AM PDT by WalterSkinner ( In Memory of My Father--WWII Vet and Patriot 1926-2007)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel; cripplecreek

Dude...do you have this image in you files? It is soooooo delish for the liberals who like to regurgitate plantation talking-points.

Mitt is resembling his dad more and more.


33 posted on 10/11/2012 7:22:11 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Darren McCarty

The margin in Wayne is the bellweather indicator. If Romney can reduce that number significantly, he has a shot.


34 posted on 10/11/2012 7:28:50 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I live in Wayne co and I can tell you that in my neighborhood the Obama signs were all over the place in 2008. Right now I have counted 2 for Obama and 10 for Romney. I actually have been seeing about 2 new Romney/Ryan signes added each day.

That said, there are a couple of extra “Yes on Prop 2” signs that tell me that those voters will go Dem. I get the feeling that the Dem voters are ashamed and will be depressed, except for the union goons on prop 2. My hope is that the proposals don’t bring them out in strength!


35 posted on 10/11/2012 7:55:49 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: taildragger

“Or go to a Tigers game and glad hand their if they continue :-)...”

Great idea! I’ll keep hoping that they will get the chance to go to a Tigers game at Comerica!


36 posted on 10/11/2012 8:01:44 AM PDT by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: taildragger

I would agree but don’t forget that Obama won Kent county last time.


37 posted on 10/11/2012 8:39:02 AM PDT by crosslink (Moderates should play in the middle of a busy street)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

LOL. The “ballet.”


38 posted on 10/11/2012 9:42:26 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: taildragger

I’d like to think it’s possible, but no. Thank Prop 2 for that, among others. Once those unionist voters get into their polling stations, they’ll flip for Obama—he’s just not what’s driving them to the polls.


39 posted on 10/11/2012 12:19:26 PM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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