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Chevy Volts For War-Torn Vienna, Nothing For Benghazi
IBD EDITORIALS ^ | October 12, 2012

Posted on 10/12/2012 4:15:39 PM PDT by raptor22

Priorities: While our consulate in Benghazi was guarded by unarmed Libyan contractors making $4 an hour, our embassy in Vienna received an expensive charging station for its new electric cars to help fight climate change.

Even MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell says Vice President Joe Biden lied during Thursday's debate when he said twice that no one in the Obama administration knew that requests for extra security had been made by our Libyan ambassador, Christopher Stevens, and other members of our consulate in Benghazi. The State Department knew "in real time," as Mitchell put it in her post-debate analysis, that requests had been made.

The requests were denied, despite 230 security incidents in Libya between June 2011 and July 2012. With 48 taking place in Benghazi, two at the U.S. diplomatic compound where Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans were murdered on Sept. 11, 2012, a date that by itself should have prompted enhanced security.

What Biden was denying was pointed out by Eric Nordstrom during his testimony before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last Wednesday. Nordstrom, a regional security officer of the U.S. Mission to Libya from September 2011 to July 2012, said that, among other things, he was told in a phone call in July that the deployment of the site security team, a 16-member American military unit based in Tripoli, could not be prolonged.

According to Nordstrom, the State Department not only refused his requests for greater security, but also actually reduced the number of Diplomatic Security Service (DSS) agents assigned to foreign service officers based in Libya. Security was left to one DSS agent, four armed members of the 17th of February Martyrs Brigade and unarmed Libyan contractors employed by the British-based Blue Mountain Group.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.investors.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazigate; chevyvolts; consulate; ibd; ibdbenghazi; impeachnow; islamofascism; jihad; joebiden; libya; obama; vienna; volts; waronterror

1 posted on 10/12/2012 4:15:41 PM PDT by raptor22
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To: raptor22

Even Angria Mitchell says Biden lied???? Ruh-roh.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 4:19:02 PM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: raptor22

Were these Volts part of the Republican budget cuts to the State Department budget we’ve heard about this week?

Come to think of it, there hasn’t been any budget, so they’ve been splurging on baseline-increased levels. That means, its just a matter of priorities. The Hillary dominated State Department thinks of security as an unseemly expense, at least for the distant embassies, if not for the higher ups, who travel in style with major protection.


3 posted on 10/12/2012 4:20:58 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: raptor22
the State Department authorized the U.S. Embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric-vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool's new Chevrolet Volts.

108K for a charging station for a Volt? Don't the stupid thins just plug into a outlet? Glad to know we have our priorities in place.

4 posted on 10/12/2012 4:27:17 PM PDT by matt04
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To: matt04

the State Department authorized the U.S. Embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric-vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool’s new Chevrolet Volts.
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$108K for a charging station for a Volt?
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It’s Austrian electricity, so they need to find translators according to Obama. ;>)


5 posted on 10/12/2012 4:34:44 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: matt04
Don't the stupid thins just plug into a outlet?

That's prolly what State thought too when they got vehicles. But IIRC, the European electrical system is different than our 120-240V 60Hz system.

6 posted on 10/12/2012 4:36:37 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: raptor22
"Priorities: While our consulate in Benghazi was guarded by unarmed Libyan contractors making $4 an hour, our embassy in Vienna received an expensive charging station for its new electric cars"

Good night!!

I wonder how many of the few Volts that exist were purchased by the US government?

7 posted on 10/12/2012 4:38:03 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Roccus

The Volt is sold in Europe as the Opel Ampera and is compatible with their electrical system.


8 posted on 10/12/2012 4:39:25 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: raptor22

So they buy Volts in the US and ship them to our embassies?????? If the charging stations cost $108,000 in Austria,what’s the total for our 200+ embassies? $22 million??? + the cars + the freight?


9 posted on 10/12/2012 4:41:54 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: raptor22

There’s a Volt parked in the US Embassy Panama motor pool and it’s going to stay that way because they didn’t get a charging station. That’s at least another year off anyway since an RFP has to go out, proposals evaluated, an award made, and finally the contractor installs the station—assuming the charging station ever shows up.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 4:42:30 PM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: raptor22

Hillary’s Presidential hopes have just expired.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 4:43:56 PM PDT by cookcounty ("When I speak, I say what I mean and I mean what I say!" ---Joe Biden, 10/11/2012)
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To: Roccus
the European electrical system is different than our 120-240V 60Hz system.

Every place I've been in Europe it's 230 volts 50Hz. Motors and transformers intended for 60Hz will run a bit hot. Considering that a Volt probably sucks amperes like crazy, I would think a charging station would get very hot.

12 posted on 10/12/2012 4:49:43 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: nascarnation
Article didn't say anything about Opel Amperas. It said;

Four days after the use of an ancient DC-3, along with other security requests, was being denied, on May 7, 2012, the State Department authorized the U.S. Embassy in Vienna to purchase a $108,000 electric-vehicle charging station for the embassy motor pool's new Chevrolet Volts.

(emphasis mine)

13 posted on 10/12/2012 4:50:01 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Obama and Biden lied; people died.


14 posted on 10/12/2012 4:51:00 PM PDT by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Actually, the charging station only cost $100K....the other 8K was for a cooling system. ;)


15 posted on 10/12/2012 4:52:57 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“That’s prolly what State thought too when they got vehicles. But IIRC, the European electrical system is different than our 120-240V 60Hz system.”
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No doubt that they are aware of the 240V 50 hz system.
Many low power electronic devices today are designed for 120-240 VAC, 50-60 hz.
European plugs have round pins, but adapters are available.
No doubt, any electrical device sent to an embassy anywhere in the world will be adapted for use in that country.


16 posted on 10/12/2012 5:02:37 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

See Post#10


17 posted on 10/12/2012 5:04:11 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: raptor22
Just a little somethging about that "ancient" DC 3

The DC3 was popular for many reasons: she was larger, faster and more luxurious than previous planes, more economical to operate and safe. Stories of DC3 durability are legend around the world. Perhaps no other aircraft has been so historically abused and come off so well. Maybe the reasons the DC 3's are still flying as no-one has yet designed a better aircraft for the particular job being done. It is often said the only replacement for a DC3 is another DC3.

18 posted on 10/12/2012 5:06:06 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“See Post#10”
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Well, it just said that they DID NOT receive a charger.
It does not say why.


19 posted on 10/12/2012 5:08:28 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW; nascarnation

There’s a race on.

What are we doing here????


20 posted on 10/12/2012 5:09:21 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

I’m watching it.
Multi-tasking.
So far we got 2 green laps out of 15


21 posted on 10/12/2012 5:11:23 PM PDT by nascarnation (Defeat Baraq 2012. Deport Baraq 2013)
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To: nascarnation

No TV in my office, only in the living room. But the excercize runnin’ back and forth might do me good. ;)


22 posted on 10/12/2012 5:16:46 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“There’s a race on.”
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race? What race? horse race?


23 posted on 10/12/2012 5:19:45 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
I'd think that if they could “just” plug it in as claimed, it wouldn't be sitting in the parking lot waiting for a charging station.

I was a nuts and bolts guy who worked 20yrs, with teletypewriters and their systems on Wall St. It would amaze you how many times customers would forget that an outlet was needed for power to run the machine....or even realize that they had to turn the darned thing ON! It was ALWAYS my experience that the higher up in the pecking order someone was, the more bereft they were of basic common sense. I'm not saying they were dumb, just ignorant and disdainful of “details.”

Remember “Challenger”? Remember how none of the big shots wanted to be bothered about some O rings?

24 posted on 10/12/2012 5:29:24 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AlexW

Nationwide series...Charlotte


25 posted on 10/12/2012 5:30:43 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: raptor22

It’s all been so miserable. Miserable.


26 posted on 10/12/2012 5:34:27 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Roccus

“I was a nuts and bolts guy who worked 20yrs, with teletypewriters and their systems “
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Well, I did have a 15 and a 19 that I used for RTTY.
I did know to plug them in, both power and signal, haha.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 5:35:46 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

I was trained on 15s, but I doubt I worked on a dozen. The old timers jumped on them. Models 28, 33, 35, 37, 40, 43, 4540 and ALL their attendant systems, 8 to 5 dataspeed converters and ALL data from vacuum tubes to digital. Finished out my career with a decade of cable splicing.

I loved working on those 28s though. They were my bread and butter. Here’s one woking at only 60 speed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bmnyOTqj3g


28 posted on 10/12/2012 5:50:53 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AlexW

I took the motor out of mine and it is now a polishing machine

I chunked the rest


29 posted on 10/12/2012 5:59:09 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: bert
I took the motor out of mine and it is now a polishing machine

My Dad did the same with a motor I gave him. LOL!! (Thanks for that memory)

30 posted on 10/12/2012 6:01:03 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: raptor22
Mallard says it all, today...


31 posted on 10/12/2012 6:12:16 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nascarnation

Well, it’s like Dad always said, “It ain’t the Volts, it’s the Amperas that hurt you.”


32 posted on 10/12/2012 6:41:25 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Roccus
I flew in DC3's around New England (Eastern Airlines) in the 60's. They were aged even then. They sort of lumbered a bit but were highly reliable. Amazing they are still in the air today.
33 posted on 10/12/2012 9:06:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: AlexW
No doubt, any electrical device sent to an embassy anywhere in the world will be adapted for use in that country.


Oh?

34 posted on 10/13/2012 1:35:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Amazing they are still in the air today.

It's a classic!



35 posted on 10/13/2012 1:41:00 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Roccus

“I was trained on 15s,”
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While I was in the two-way radio business, RTTY was only a
ham radio adventure around 1965-1972. I had a few DX contacts from around the world, using my model 19.
I also remember a portable tty machine that I got through Army MARS, but do not remember the make or model.
I had no training on tty, much less any professional or business with them.
I also remember teletype art being popular. The most famous was the nude girl sitting on a stool. While I had a perf unit and tape reader, I never got into the art gig.


36 posted on 10/13/2012 2:59:19 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: hinckley buzzard

Although I don’t remember it, I flew in one as a tyke. Cross country from Washington, home to NY shortly after V-J Day. In NYC I grew up near LaGuardia airport and we saw lots of ‘em. Always liked the “thrumming” sound of their engines. :)


37 posted on 10/13/2012 3:02:51 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“Just a little somethging about that “ancient” DC 3”
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I think the DC-3 was considered to be one of the best airplanes ever made in that generation.
I still remember a few Southern Airways flights in a DC-3.


38 posted on 10/13/2012 3:04:55 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW
I also remember teletype art being popular

I gotta believe that the guys that created that became our first programmers. lol

39 posted on 10/13/2012 3:07:21 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: AlexW

IIRC, one of the safest airframes ever.

(talk about hi-jacking a thread......guilty grin)


40 posted on 10/13/2012 3:10:00 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“I gotta believe that the guys that created that became our first programmers. lol
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Quite possible. It took a lot of creativity to make TTY art.
It was over my head to try.
Google has many links. This is one:
http://www.rtty.com/gallery/gallery.htm

Just Google “RTTY art”.


41 posted on 10/13/2012 3:15:05 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: AlexW

Thanks for that.
I imagine some of our younger FReepers are saying, “TTY art??? What the heck is that?”


42 posted on 10/13/2012 3:21:27 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus

“I imagine some of our younger FReepers are saying, “TTY art??? What the heck is that?””
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Yes, and to quote one of my brothers, referring to the past...It is all “Gone With the Wind”.


43 posted on 10/13/2012 3:24:42 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Roccus
I imagine some of our younger FReepers are saying, “TTY art??? What the heck is that?”

It's quite similar to Printer Music; Whippersnapper!

44 posted on 10/13/2012 6:15:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

While using a fox generator, I could tell if a typing unit was garbeling just by the rythm. We would have a unit testing while sitting around a desk having coffee and if the unit missbehaved, ALL heads and eyes would turn toward it.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment. }:^)


45 posted on 10/13/2012 8:29:40 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Elsie

Well, I looked it up on Google and that’s all NEW stuff...dot matrix.
Would be kinda tough to do when yer following the “bouncing box.” lol


46 posted on 10/13/2012 8:35:04 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Elsie

Speaking about machine music, a buddy sent me this. He swears it’s real. Personaly, I think it’s CGI but it’s kinda neat

http://www.youtube.com/embed/XlyCLbt3Thk?rel=0


47 posted on 10/13/2012 8:47:59 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: Roccus
You are correct; not yer buddy.

Google® the Animusic web site. Gives all the details. Even has a simplified version that YOU can download to create your own animated images to a given MIDI file.

48 posted on 10/13/2012 5:51:18 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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