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Tom Brokaw Rips Biden's Debate Antics
newsbusters ^ | 10/12/2012 | matt hadro

Posted on 10/12/2012 5:52:04 PM PDT by barryobi

NBC's Tom Brokaw blasted Joe Biden's debate antics on Friday's Morning Joe. "I mean he just can't contain himself," note Brokaw. "And he's become a caricature on the talk shows."

"I just don't think you should be laughing during a discussion about thermonuclear war with Iran," Brokaw called out Biden, who repeatedly shook his head at opponent Paul Ryan while smiling and laughing.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: biden; brokaw; ryan
I posted about seeing this on MSNBC this morning, but now Newsbusters has the video and transcript.

As I said this morning, I don't think either guy won the debate, but I think Biden lost it. Nobody will remember much of what either guy said, (with the exception of Biden's lie about the consulate in Libya never asking for more security, that story still in unfolding) but everybody will remember Biden's behavior. Liberals will lover it, conservatives despise it, but it really just matters what the so called 'undecided' thought about crazy joe.

My intuition, after seeing the tv ratings, is that the undecided voter either did not tune in at all, or if they did, they were probably so turned off that they changed channels after the first 30 minutes of Joe's act.

By making the storyline about Joe and how he acted, if the Obama campaign thought that was a brilliant strategy, they are completely mistaken. Joe's behavior stepped on his arguments, and even if the undecided were inclined to believe the crap Joe was selling, his buffoonish behavior probably made most people not even remember what he was saying.

Being so over the top in Ryan's face was a big mistake, and the lie he told about Benghazi will come back to haunt Joe and Barry. When even a reliable liberal like Tom Brokaw is not willing to cover for his clownish act, you know crazy Joe went too far.

1 posted on 10/12/2012 5:52:10 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi

The words “senile” and “dementia” come to mind when I watch the sick old buzzard giggling and squinting about serious topics.


2 posted on 10/12/2012 5:58:42 PM PDT by RobinOfKingston (The instinct toward liberalism is located in the part of the brain called the rectal lobe.)
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To: barryobi
LBJ said that if we lost Kronkite, then we lost the war.

If Barry has lost Brokaw, then he has lost the old, white liberals too.

3 posted on 10/12/2012 6:00:13 PM PDT by AmusedBystander (The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next)
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To: RobinOfKingston
"I just don't think you should be laughing during a discussion about thermonuclear war with Iran," Brokaw called out Biden, who repeatedly shook his head at opponent Paul Ryan while smiling and laughing.

The old fool couldn't be serious long enough to rationally discuss the nuclear equipped mullahs? We need better in this country. This is a serious subject.

4 posted on 10/12/2012 6:02:09 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: barryobi

Obama out-Carters Carter and now Biden out-Gores AlGore.


6 posted on 10/12/2012 6:03:00 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Why not eliminate the middle man and have whoever feeds Obama his lines debate Romney directly?")
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To: barryobi

Frankly, there’s only so much you can do when the other guy goes ‘wing nut’ on you. Ryan could have come up with some better rejoinders, but he held his composure throughout, and I think that spoke very well of him.

Biden played the fool, and the media stepped in to praise him for it. He’s being described as “spirited.” “The sparks really flew...”

No, horse manure was the only thing that flew, and it was slung from one direction only. Biden isn’t slick enough to pull it off, and the media isn’t effective enough to turn a horse turd into a red apple. It’s not working.


7 posted on 10/12/2012 6:10:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Biden disrespect wasn't limited to Ryan. It was an insult to me and every other U. S. Citizen.)
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To: barryobi
Twitter: media put off by the grinning/laughing jackass Biden

Weekly Standard’s Mark Hemingway: “Joe Biden’s laughing through talking about Iran sanctions?”

Washington Examiner’s Philip Klein: “Biden’s strategy seems to be to laugh at Ryan constantly. Will it work to infantalize Ryan, or backfire like Gore sighing?”

NBC’s David Gregory: “Biden’s smile is out of control.”

BuzzFeed’s Ben Smith: “So did Biden practice laughing at Ryan???”

ABC’s Rick Klein: “Biden on verge of breaking down in laughter when Ryan talks.”

Former Eric Cantor staffer Brad Dayspring: “Joe Biden needs to realize this isn’t a Senate Foreign Relations Hearing. His laughter and condescending attitude is a disaster.”

Radio host Neal Boortz: “Looking like Biden’s gameplan is to laugh his way through this.”

Townhall.com’s Guy Benson: “Will Biden laugh his ass off at the terrible economy, too?”

MSNBC’s S.E. Cupp: “Biden needs to laugh a little less through the Libya, Middle East, nuclear Iran segment.”

Washington Post’s Chris Cillizza: “Ok. I have decided. I find the Biden smile slightly unsettling.”

PBS’ Jeff Greenfield: “Biden has always had a smile that at times is really, really inappropriate.”

Washington Examiner’s Paul Bedard: “Can’t tell yet if Biden’s smirking, laughs, eye-rolling, head shaking, works for him or not against the oh-so-young looking eager Ryan.”

Former White House press secretary Ari Fleischer: “Biden is at risk of having his laugh come across like Gore’s sighs. He should knock it off.”

The New York Times’ Ashley Parker: “Biden’s grin is Chesire Cat caliber.”

Republican strategist Ron Bonjean: “Biden laughing does not come off with the intended effect. It is actually hurting him. Looks very condescending.”

Movie critic Roger Ebert: “Joe! Stop smiling and laughing!”

Washington Times’ Emily Miller: “Biden laughing when he disagrees with Ryan is so annoying. Like a child in time out.”

Washington Post’s Jennifer Rubin: “Biden’s laughing is losing the debate- obnoxious”

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8 posted on 10/12/2012 6:17:30 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: barryobi

Ryan came to a debate. Biden thought it was a circus act. After all, it’s a jungle at the White House. There’s a baboon and a laughing hyena there leading all the other jackasses.


9 posted on 10/12/2012 6:18:03 PM PDT by roadcat
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To: barryobi

Excellent news if Brokaw says this.

Plus, all those interruptions, all by Biden and the “moderator.” Except for the liberal freaks, no one in their right mind would put up with that.

Sure, an occasional interruption, if the other guy comes out with a bald-faced lie. But one-sided interruptions more than once a minute all through the debate, with no justification.

And I doubt whether the neutral viewers would approve of the moderator ganging up with one of the debaters to do it.


10 posted on 10/12/2012 6:20:14 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

If the high altitude got to Obama in the Denver debate, I’m wondering if they piped in laughing gas on ol’ Joe.


11 posted on 10/12/2012 6:26:32 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: barryobi

Biden got what he was after..the news was about him and not the issues..


12 posted on 10/12/2012 6:30:58 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: barryobi
When even a reliable liberal like Tom Brokaw is not willing to cover for his clownish act, you know crazy Joe went too far.

Brokaw, and the rest of the Liberal Media, won't cover for the Liberal Messiah and His minions anymore. The LM know that come January 20 we will have President Romney and VP Ryan, so they are planning accordingly.

13 posted on 10/12/2012 6:31:52 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Ryan was staying on message...which would you choose..the smart man or the idiot?


14 posted on 10/12/2012 6:41:05 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RobinOfKingston
The words “senile” and “dementia” come to mind when I watch the sick old buzzard giggling and squinting about serious topics.

I had a couple of graphics in cold storage that I used to pull out in honor of Crazy Uncle Ron Paul. I thought I might not ever use them again. Crazy Uncle Joe has brought them out of retirement.

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It's time for your thorazine, Joe

15 posted on 10/12/2012 6:45:55 PM PDT by lonevoice (Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days lived)
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To: barryobi
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;

If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two imposters just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with wornout tools;

If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";


If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!

- Kipling

16 posted on 10/12/2012 6:48:21 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: barryobi
My theory is that Biden studied Rule 5 of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals for the debate.

It's only 28 words, but it's in 4 sentences. He only had 2 weeks, so that's as far as he got.

17 posted on 10/12/2012 6:53:47 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: barryobi

Bwokaw is stiww awive?


18 posted on 10/12/2012 6:56:03 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Cicero
Meanwhile Biden told bald face lies “Only millionaires will be taxed” “I didn't vote for the wars “ that Blond Bimbo did not call him out on them. I hope that lady gets thrown under the bus at some point or gets run over by one.
19 posted on 10/12/2012 6:56:21 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Vince Ferrer
Re: 16

I like that poem.
It describes the complete opposite of the people inhabiting the current Administration.

20 posted on 10/12/2012 7:09:39 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: dalebert

I do think there were a few times when Ryan could have interjected some fantastic sound-bytes. I would not favor him acting as Biden did, but you can frame your opponent for what he is doing with the proper rejoinders.

Yes, he did stay on message. Of course turning things on your opponent is also staying on message. You can do it in a dry dignified manner too, that makes your opponent look ever so much like a childish chump, while you look even more the adult in the situation.

None of this is meant to state that Ryan didn’t win. Biden blew it big-time. Still, a little nudge once in a while would have been nice.


21 posted on 10/12/2012 7:11:23 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Biden disrespect wasn't limited to Ryan. It was an insult to me and every other U. S. Citizen.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

One of my favorite poems.


22 posted on 10/12/2012 7:57:33 PM PDT by madison10
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To: barryobi

I think Biden was high too. That seems to be the debate strategy for the dems - get really really stoned, then go to the debate.


23 posted on 10/12/2012 7:59:23 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: barryobi

Slow Joe was playing to his audience, the under 30 crowd that sits home playing video games instead of working and watching cartoon shows (Family Guy, etc.) in the evening.


24 posted on 10/12/2012 8:14:34 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: DoughtyOne

Right - he could have also “overcorrected” to confront Biden which would have been a risk of making it look like a school boy arguing with the school master (sort of the way Edwards looked vs. Cheney). In this case he looked like someone level headed with someone going crazy.


25 posted on 10/12/2012 8:27:13 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: RobinOfKingston

I was wondering if he was “high”......but dementia could work


26 posted on 10/12/2012 9:05:28 PM PDT by Kimmers (Fair isn't everybody getting the same thing, fair is getting what you need to be successful)
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To: RobinOfKingston

It has not been widely publicized but when Biden very briefly alluded to the death of his first wife years ago he could have mentioned the same accident required two cranial operations for him and I think some added surgical work on his neck. If this were a lesser person in some difficult situation the cranial operations would be considered important as to behavior.


27 posted on 10/12/2012 9:32:15 PM PDT by noinfringers2
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To: Cicero

I thought the moderator was a big part of the problem, but I haven’t seen much written about it. I don’t think the media should be allowed to moderate debates anymore.


28 posted on 10/12/2012 9:40:08 PM PDT by virgil
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To: The_Media_never_lie
...piped in laughing gas on ol'Joe.

Hee, hee, hee! Love it!

29 posted on 10/12/2012 10:04:13 PM PDT by IIntense
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To: Republican Wildcat

I agree. There was a danger of that, and he did come off level-headed. There’s also a very fine line there too, level headed vs submissive and not self-defending enough.


30 posted on 10/13/2012 12:12:49 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Biden disrespect wasn't limited to Ryan. It was an insult to me and every other U. S. Citizen.)
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To: barryobi
Lots of free commercials. I like the idea of resurrecting the daisy.
31 posted on 10/13/2012 12:17:03 AM PDT by des
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To: The_Media_never_lie

We DO deserve better.


32 posted on 10/13/2012 12:56:01 AM PDT by des
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To: Vince Ferrer

thank you for that


33 posted on 10/13/2012 1:09:13 AM PDT by des
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To: ETL
PBS’ Jeff Greenfield: “Biden has always had a smile that at times is really, really inappropriate.”

Biden's smile is "unsettling" and "inappropriate" mainly because it is utterly insincere. It's forced, like a beauty queen's smile.

34 posted on 10/13/2012 1:25:01 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: barryobi

Remember we were supposed to vote Kerry (the Viet Nam vet) because he had “gravitas”? I guess they don’t really respect gravitas because Bite-Me surely hasn’t an ounce...


35 posted on 10/13/2012 3:45:09 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

It has become apparent that not many of that under
30 crowd watched.


36 posted on 10/13/2012 4:01:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DoughtyOne
I don't think Ryan or anyone else expected Slow Joe to go ballastic. Being interupted 82 times is going to throw off anyone's debate game plan.

I for one think that the moderator was involved in the fix. Very damn obvious.

37 posted on 10/13/2012 4:16:31 AM PDT by catfish1957 (My dream for hope and change is to see the punk POTUS in prison for treason)
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To: ETL

Ya know, upon reflection, this was predicted.

At the Republican Convention in Tampa, the great Clint Eastwood said something to the effect, “Yeah, Joe Biden, the intellect of the Democrat Party, kind of a smile with a body behind it...”


38 posted on 10/13/2012 6:29:20 AM PDT by YepYep (We've just GOT to love Jesus enough to LISTEN to Him, and Do what He Says)
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