Pentagon Probe After Nuclear Submarine Crash

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[Sub-Driver]

Pentagon Probe After Nuclear Submarine Crash

Military officials are investigating after a nuclear submarine collided with a Navy cruiser during routine operations.

The Pentagon is investigating why a Navy nuclear submarine collided with an Aegis cruiser off the East Coast.

The US Fleet Forces Command said the USS Montpelier submarine and the Aegis cruiser USS San Jacinto crashed at about 3.30pm on Saturday during routine operations.

No one was injured, and the extent of any damage to the vessels is unclear.

Both Navy ships are based at Norfolk, Virginia. The Pentagon did not say where the collision took place.

"We have had circumstances where Navy vessels have collided at sea in the past, but they're fairly rare as to how often they do take place," Lieutenant Commander Brian Badura said.

"If we do have an incident that does take place, there are folks that swing into action to help us make a better, more conclusive explanation of exactly what happened."

[driftdiver]

Yes the Lt Col West types generally retire at Lt Col for a reason. Its a shame but the politics are more generally important than performance.

[driftdiver]

Everyone in the military is expected to behave as a gentlemen or lady.

The idea that enlisted personnel wouldn’t make excellent officers just because they are enlisted is disgusting to say the least. People are people, either you are a leader or not.

I’ve met good leaders in both categories and I’ve met plenty of bad ones in both as well.

[Little Bill]

What about General Otis, LTC at the time, more balls than most, served, Enlisted Scum at the time, under him for 9 months in Viet Nam.

[driftdiver]

So you decry besmirching officers and then condemn enlisted. typical

btw, next time try to write a coherent sentence.

[Little Bill]

“Scum of The Earth Enlisted for Drink”, Duke of Wellington on his troops after Waterloo.

I did two tours in Viet Nam, 1965-1968 with the 25th Division, 2/35 and 3/4th Cav. I went from PVT to SSG, mostly by inheritance, what is your bona fides, I have seen dumb asses and I have seen leaders, and we lived in the Mushroom farm most of the time.

Condemn Enlisted yes, ever work or try to work with a bunch of “Johnson's 100,000?”

[Sola Veritas]

“Our officer corps today is filled with craven self servers, and political idealogues.”

I don’t know about “political idealogues” being so, but I am witnessing the “craven self servers” in the ranks of regular army officers. It was that way during peace, and lessened considerably during war because promotion rates went up so much (there were several years when the selection rate for regular army officers from captain to major as over 100%). That started to turn around about two years ago and this last year dramatically dropped to only 80% considered for promotion to major were selected. I expect it to go lower. Of course the even higher ranks are dropping faster.

What I am seeing amoung “majors” is the developement of a cutthroat mentality where seeing a fellow officer screw up and hurt their future promotion potential is getting bad - plus I suspect the desire to assist a fellow to screw up. Plus, the atttitude of “zero defects allowed” is causing them to refuse to ever admit error...ever. They are becoming intolerable to work with because of their self serving. If one will read the old book (NOT the movie) “The Caine Mutiny” you will see a whole bunch of Queeg’s in the regular army....I would speculate the Navy is worse.

[doorgunner69]

You nailed it. As I posted, I worked with one of those zero defects clowns. Totally ignorant of the engineering disciplines he was supposedly in charge of, but never let that stop him from trying to direct traffic. And of course, when something broke or did not work, he started a frantic search for the guilty. Often, it was due to a decision he made from his ignorance, but no, someone else must be found in error.

[driftdiver]

I was in during a period when they didn’t allow us to smoke weed and shoot smack.

[Little Bill]

Neither was I. To me weed always smelled like Chesterfields, I hated Chesterfields the smoke ripped your throat out so you were a candidate for LBJ if what smelled like Chesterfields wasn't, the smack came after my time.

I think that you watched Platoon to many times or the last half of Full Metal Jacket to many times.

[Taxman]

LTC West was on his way to stars until the PC crowd did him in. Chair warming REMFs are dangerous to Warriors careers!

In a just world, the REMFs would have been court martialed!

[Taxman]

PS For that matter, chair warming REMFs are a Clear and Present Danger to the USA!

[miserare]

It’s not your Grandpa’s Navy anymore.

[driftdiver]

I think you don’t know what you are talking about.

[driftdiver]

” chair warming REMFs are a Clear and Present Danger to the USA!”

yep, and yet they are being groomed to take on ever more control.

[lookout88]

My kid is an officer, and so are his friends. Best brave men I ever knew. You can GFY.

[daniel1212]

Indeed! Your wit remind me of the humorous parodies on this channel: http://www.battlefield315.com/2011/03/liberal-universities-explained.html

[Little Bill]

I was there were you?

[skinkinthegrass]

bmk. ;-)

[rmlew]

Is it really informative that the Montpelier is a "nuclear" submarine? Aren't all U.S. Navy submarines nuclear-powered? The Montpelier is a Los Angeles class attack submarine not a boomer.
I believe that it is an improved LA Class, ie 688I.
And what is an "Aegis Class cruiser"? The Aegis Combat System is an integrated naval weapons system. CG-56 is a Ticonderoga Class cruiser. Admittedly, it is the only class of cruisers with the Aegis system. However, the press calls our Arleigh Burke class destroyers, "Aegis class" as if the Japanese don't have two classes of destroyers with this system and the South Koreans one.

[skinkinthegrass]

.!