Skip to comments.Questions on Benghazi ("Where is CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus?")
Posted on 10/14/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by maggief
Where is CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus? He seems to be the missing man in the unfolding Benghazi debacle. It is his agency, among others, which is being fingered by the White House for getting the Libya attack wrong. However, we know that within a very short time after the murder of our ambassador (an extraordinary occurrence) and others, our intelligence community did have the story straight: This was an organized al-Qaeda attack. Is he to preside over a witchhunt? Or is he, who to date has been one of the most respected national security officials, going to be instrumental in shining light on the Libya fiasco and thereby truly serving the national interest and the memory of those killed?
Thats one of the many pending questions bubbling over in the Libya scandal. But we finally be getting some answers. On Friday Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) announced that the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee will hold hearings on the Benghazi debacle. Those hearings cant come a moment too soon. The questions are multiplying:
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
David Petraeus is part of team Obama now so does Obama’s bidding. I believe he waiting for Romney to win and to stay with Romney and do a great job for him.
According to Col. Hunt (Fox News contributor and Howie Carr regular) as soon as the alert button in the U.S. Libyan Consulate (U.S. sovereign territory) was pushed signaling that it was being attacked a dozen or more monitoring units through-out the world (European, African, Nato, U.S. States Dept. in DC area, etc.) were alerted and instant monitoring began (including the audio and video being sent [real time] from the Consulates security cameras and the on air voice transmission of Ambassador Stevens aide. With-in MINUTES protocol dictates that The President be alerted, the Sec. of Defense, the Sec. of State, the heads of the CIA, FBI, etc. be alerted ... the monitoring took place for the entire six hours that the attack lasted.
The 09/11/12 terrorist attack [on U.S. sovereign ground], assassination and murders began at 9:30 PM Libyan time = 3:30 AM Eastern U.S. time. Apparently, when that 3 AM Phone Call came-in ... President 0bama turned-over and went back to sleep as did Sec. of State Clinton.
1 posted on Saturday, October 13, 2012 8:49:55 PM by Eric
The President and the Vice President meet with Secretary of Defense
From ptbors links:
Later in the afternoon, the President and the Vice President will meet with Secretary of Defense Panetta in the Oval Office. This meeting is closed to the press
12:00 p.m. Secretary Clinton meets with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and National Security Adviser Tom Donilon, at the White House.
Obama was informed about the developments in Libya by his National Security Adviser Tom Donilon as the president began a weekly meeting Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey. The White House said Obama was kept apprised throughout the evening and then again Wednesday morning.
The U.S. embassy in Egypt had tried to pre-empt the attack, issuing a statement hours earlier that condemned the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others. Embassy officials also called Nader Bakkar, a spokesman for the conservative Islamist Nour party, in which they apologized for the film and Jones call, but Bakkar said he was unwilling to call off the protest, and embassy employees were sent home early.
In addition to the footage from the consulate cameras, the U.S. government is also poring over video taken from an overhead U.S. surveillance drone that arrived for the final hour of the night battle at the consulate compound and nearby annex.
David Petraeuss first year at the CIA
Petraeus was well-known as a commander for fastening on big ideas. He has just floated to employees a new strategic plan that focuses on ways for the agency to exploit new technology more effectively.
The measure of any CIA director is operations, and Petraeuss instincts here have reflected his military background. In Yemen, Petraeus improved coordination with the military on drone attacks and other operations. The CIA and the military (not always good partners) have shared intelligence, personnel and even hardware.
Petraeus is also said to have pushed hard in Libya, rushing case officers there to work with the opposition. Making this surge work fell to John Bennett, the head of the operations directorate. A blunt, tough officer who had planned to leave with Panetta, Bennett is said to have complained that he occasionally felt he was in a hostile work environment. But Bennett was able to pull officers from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan and elsewhere.
John Bennett CIA appointment (Director of the National Clandestine Services) is a mistake
Violent Anti-American Protests Across the Middle East
FOX News Channel - Friday, September 14, 2012
Show: FOX ON THE RECORD WITH GRETA VAN SUSTEREN
Author: Greta Van Susteren, John Bolton, Leland Vittert
VAN SUSTEREN: A day of deep mourning for all of us, for four American, including our ambassador, cruelly murdered in Libya, their bodies arriving home in the United States today. President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton taking part in a somber ceremony for U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and his three colleagues.
Meanwhile, Americans are under attack across the globe, protests against the United States breaking out in Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Morocco, Nigeria, Sudan, and moving east to Yemen, Lebanon, Israel, Jordan, Iraq, Kuwait, Iran, Qatar, Afghanistan, Pakistan. And the protests continuing further east to India, Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, and even in London, where protesters burn mesh and Israeli flags. Now, this is getting worse. Today, CIA Director David Petraeus briefing member of the House Intelligence committee on this international crisis. Congressman Dutch Ruppersberger is the ranking Democrat on that committee. He joins us. Nice to see you, sir.
REP. DUTCH RUPPERSBERGER, (D) MARYLAND: Glad to be here, Greta.
VAN SUSTEREN: Let me ask you about the ambassador Stevens in Libya. Do you know if he was targeted, if they were trying to kill him? Or if he was the accidental victim obviously a murder?
RUPPERSBERGER: There are two issues here. Number one, the actual protest started as a result of the cleric who had the film that attacked the Muslim religion, and then the protests started in Egypt. When it got into Libya, things changed. Libya and Bangladesh, where this occurred is very primitive area.
So we are not sure whether the protest went viral and whether an extremist group like Al Qaeda realized there was a protest and got their guns and weapons and took advantage of the situation, or whether it was preplanned. We havent determined the facts, but it could go either way as far as Im concerned.
VAN SUSTEREN: When talking to director the CIA today, do you have a sense that we that there is so much information, we dont know, or is there a sense that we really know what happened and we on the path to get those people?
RUPPERSBERGER: I think number one, first priority by the way is to make sure all Americans, wherever they are, throughout the world are safe. What we are doing is making sure that we contact the heads of all countries that it is part of the international code that when you have an embassy in another country, that they provide protection.
We provide our own protection. We want to protect our Americans. Thats what we are doing. So thats the first thing. But where we are going with this, at this point, we still have to get the facts and data. Its been three days.
VAN SUSTEREN: There have been so rumors that the United States has some sort of tipoff or some knowledge that something was happening. Obviously, this happened on 9/11. So it has, you know, added significance for us. Was there any idea, any notification to put us on alert?
RUPPERSBERGER: It is my understanding that information was given to the embassy in Cairo about the film and that there could be a backlash as a result of that. Thats all I know at this time.
VAN SUSTEREN: Let me get back to the question. The film seems a cover for someone to go in and kill our four in Libya. It seems a pretext of some sort.
RUPPERSBERGER: Those of us in the intelligence have been dealing with Al Qaeda for at least since 9/11. And Al Qaeda will take advantage of any situation and they will take credit for many situations. But they are dangerous. They are well organized
VAN SUSTEREN: They seemed ready for this. I mean, once the protests broke out in Egypt, if this is Al Qaeda in Libya, they were ready to move very quickly.
RUPPERSBERGER: I think they were flowered Libya. Remember, where is Libya? Its like the Wild West was in the United States years ago. There are people who have open trucks with machine guns and weapons on them all the time. So it would be very easy for people who were who were fighting the government at one time and Gadhafi and they would they all have weapons. And thats part of the concern. Its a very young government, starting out, and there is not their police, and theyre not trained. They are not trained to do what they need to do to protect people.
VAN SUSTEREN: Do you have a sense that the killers, that lets go in there and we will kill whoever is there, or did you get the sense, lets kill the ambassador?
RUPPERSBERGER: I think once they realized the protest was there, that the people were sophisticated enough with the ammunition that they had, that they were going to do damage to whoever was in there. The ambassador died of smoke inhalation because of the fire.
VAN SUSTEREN: He wasnt tortured?
RUPPERSBERGER: From my understanding, he wasnt tortured. Thats what we know at this point. But whether or not they knew he was in there, but then we now have to look at why this occurred. Did he have body guards there? We do know that the area there was primitive. It was make-shift because the government had just been set up. This, in my opinion, would not have happened in the embassy Tripoli.
Maybe this is the service Stevens was working under.
Chris Stevens (wiki): He arrived in Tripoli in May 2012 as the U.S. Ambassador to Libya
Does New Defense Clandestine Service Spell Big Changes for Military Intelligence?
Noah O. Braymen - May 8, 2012
The Pentagon is pulling together hundreds of officers from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) to create an intelligence service called the Defense Clandestine Service (DCS). The DCS is tasked with gathering terrorist network information, weapons of mass destruction, and other rising threats. Michael Vickers, Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and John D. Bennett, CIA counterpart leading the National Clandestine Service, arranged the various elements of the service. Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta approved their plan on Friday, April 20, 2012.
This service will be composed of both military and civilian officers, and it will work alongside the CIA. According to Rep. C. A. Ruppersberger, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, the DCS plans are still in progress, but it will emphasize and expand the Pentagons human intelligence agencies. Particularly, it will focus on gathering information through personal contact with sources, not on the interception of communications along the lines of the NSA agencies based at Fort Meade.
Petraeus is not to be trusted. Turncoat of the first order.
I would be updating my resume and writing my resignation letter.
Unless of course the man has ambitions he has yet to mention. Even then allowing Obama to throw him under the bus does nothing for his credibility.
Where indeed. He has already lied to them once. This will be buried under ‘National Security’.
The Daily Princetonian
A Petraeus GS ‘87 presidency?
CIA director is interested in leading the University
Yep, Benghazi was a CIA operation.
See also the last link in post #3.
In hiding with the other incompetents and traitors.
The WaPo has Steven’s unredacted itinerary. Perhaps Ms. Rubin should start there. Someone canceled their 11:00 AM meeting on 9/11/12.
The White House, the President, the Vice President, the State Department, the CIA and FBI ALL knew IN REAL time, blow by blow what EXACTLY what was happening, they had live audio and live video feed for SIX LONG HOURS, as well as radio transmissions from one of the poor dead guys EXACTLY what was going on and BECAUSE OF SOME ORDER SOMEWHERE TO DO NOTHING, no help was sent even though it was within reach.
THIS IS MURDER PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND OBAMA EVEN SLEPT DURING IT.
Someone made this comment on the WAPO—
“”Petraeus is probably lying low because he does not want to be quoted on what the Benghazi mess really was: A successful terrorist attack against the US planned and organized by al Qaeda.
Additionally, hes probably embarrassed that the cover for a CIA operation was blown, rendering the well-prepared facility useless for further intel activities. Hell not want to confront the obvious question: If the CIA had so many folks in Benghazi tracking weapons and bad actors, why did they not detect any of the planning for the attack on the consulate?
So Petraeus and the CIA have plenty of reasons to avoid the limelight.””
Sens. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.) and Susan Collins (R-Maine) Now there’s a pair of names to inspire confidence that hardnosed, unswerving investigation is taking place and that thorough, unmerciful justice will be meted out! Those names are just two, of many shining examples, why I say that the U.S. Congress (House and Senate) is where high crimes and cases of blatant malfeasance in office go to DIE!
We know there is at least one whistle-blower, and who knows how many tapes; surveillance, drone, and perhaps real-time. Issa was concerned that MSM would get their hands on video before he did.
If CNN had the diary and WaPo the itinerary, maybe MSM already has some footage.
What a SNAFU!
I want a clean sweep, anyone working for Obama in any capacity must go!
What was done to our ambassador after the alarms went off and Washington, DC was totally aware of what was happening in Benghazi, what is commonly known as: He was left twisting slowly in the wind!
Great find, I will do some digging on those front companies listed on Monday.
Forget Petraus. This was NASA’s failure. They were charged with Muslim outreach and dropped the ball. /sarcasm
Also I noted the hospital visit that was the front story for the trip is not listed? What is that about?
Americans are sick and tired of liars and sex fiends running things
———This service will be composed of both military and civilian officers, and it will work alongside the CIA——
This service will shove the CIA aside. It is an attempt at an end run with the political pawn Panetta in charge
The General chose to remain in the spotlight at whatever cost to his heretofore fine reputation....and he's reaping the fallout he himself sowed.
He should have remained under the radar till an honorable administration was elected and all the commies, traitors and enemies within the various marble halls were swept out of Washington DC. Many appointment avenues would then be open to him to cover himself with glory. But he made a bad choice.
Since I firmly believe the 'Rat exodus from D.C. will begin on the day after November 6, Petraeus is probably kicking himself for the can of worms he finds himself in. He is now tied to Obama's sorry policies, deserving or not.....and is eventually expendable and certainly will be thrown under the jeep along with other of Obama's fall guys and dolls.
I'm sorry to say that I think his honorable career is now permanently tainted by association with O'Beezlebub. Lie down with a dog, get up with the mange.
Will these hearings come before the election?
Van sustern is a Scientologist
The post from Eric needs to be corrected. 9:30 PM Libyan time is 3:30 PM (not AM) EST. This is a crucial distinction because Obama’s lack of involvement has been excused by those saying he went to bed at 11 PM and didn’t know what was happening.
That is totally false and a deliberate attempt to mislead.
The attack began at 3:30 PM EST and continued until 9:30 PM EST and Obama and the WH situation room would have been up and running at full strength during that period.
The question is, will anyone appear at these hearings without a subpeona? By the time that all happens and the cloak of national security pierced, the “il”ection will be history.
By Bradley Klapper, The Associated Press
October 9, 2012
Updated: 8:10 p.m.
WASHINGTON (AP) Senior State Department officials provided a more detailed picture Tuesday of the consulate attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. A look at how they say the attack took place:
Sept. 10-11, 2012
Stevens arrives in Benghazi and holds meetings on and off the consulate grounds on Sept. 10. He spends the night, and for the 11th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on the U.S. holds meetings only inside the compound. It is an enclosed area about 300 yards long by 100 yards wide, with a 9-foot outer wall topped by barbed wire and augmented by barriers, steel drop bars and other security upgrades. There are four buildings in the compound. Five diplomatic security officers are present, along with four members of a local militia deployed by Libyas government to provide added security.
Around 8:30 p.m.
Stevens finishes his final meeting of the day and escorts a Turkish diplomat outside the main entrance of the consulate. The situation is calm. There are no protests.
Around 9:40 p.m.
Agents hear loud noises, gunfire and explosions near the front gate. A barracks at the entrance housing the local militiamen is burnt down. Agents viewing cameras see large group of armed men flowing into the compound. Alarm is sounded. Telephone calls are made to the embassy in Tripoli, officials in Washington, the Libyan authorities and a U.S. quick reaction force located at a second compound a little over a mile away.
Even if its State’s or Intelligence’s fault, it still reflects badly on Obama. It shows he doesn’t run a tight ship, is disengaged and doesn’t really want to get involved when a crisis occurs. Particularly after the ambassador’s assassination, most any executive would at that point want to get involved, find out absolutely everything and keep informed, and maybe even talk to the American people about this. Zero didn’t do any of that, but went to sleep and then flew out to Vegas, and then spent subsequent days partying with JayZ and Beyonce, and hanging with the harpies from the View and Letterman. This guy is not a responsible chief executive and needs to go. I sure hope the voters are paying attention here.
Anyone who works for 0 and continues to work for him knowing that he favors the jihadis and marxism, is a ho.
Thank you for pointing out the error. As you can see I assumed it said 3:30 PM. My post reflects how it fits in the official schedules.
Romney would be a fool to keep him.
I remember on 9/11 that around 10:00 pm CST the controversy around the apologetic posting on the Cairo Embassy web site and twitter was already swearing because just before I went to bed that night I took one more look at things and discovered it.
Already at that time the WH was denying they had approved the language.
swearing = swirling.
“David Petraeus is part of team Obama now so does Obamas bidding.”
If that is true he is a traitor.
“I believe he waiting for Romney to win and to stay with Romney and do a great job for him.”
If that happens Romney is an idiot. Petraeus is in a position to know what Obama is doing and is not upholding his oath if he is doing Obama’s bidding. He should never be trusted if he doesn’t come clean in this instance.
You are hoping not facing reality about David Petraeus. If he is on Obama’s team now, he will always be on Obama’s team.
You are hoping not facing reality about David Petraeus. If he is on Obama’s team now, he will always be on Obama’s team.
Maybe he went for a run.
As we endeavor to be precise, Washington time of the attack was 3:30 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time, not standard.
EDT, you are absolutely correct. Duly noted.
Once DC “falls back” to EST, the difference in time would be 7 hours (Libya would be ahead) unless Libya “falls back” as well which I highly doubt.
I never did like or trust Petaeus contrary to many, many of those looking for a reputable rescuer from Obama and his cabal. I know it is not goody goody to make such a choice based on little more than instinct. However, I am reminded of generals throughout our history that were not what I thought always acted foremost in/for the interests of this Nation. General Dempsey is an Obama shill and of particular thought is General Wesley Clark who I consider as a bomber/killer of our WWII friends in Yugoslavia while carrying out the orders to help Muslims that were not and are not our friends.
Exactly right. I never liked Petraeus much either. Anyone who goes along with Obama’s policies, especially in war, is suspect. Any general who kisses Obama’s *ss is not my kind of general. When Petraeus took the position of CIA head, that was the moment that I knew he was nothing more than a shill for the Obama Admin.
I sure agree with you about Petreaus, but while reading your post it occurred to me: suppose that he was ORDERED by Obama to do things he really distrusted, and right now he is talking to Issa, et al, and has decided to reveal to Congress all he understands. That sure would be a great “whistle-blower” to have...
Wishful thinking, I know, but it sure would be an intriguing development.
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