Posted on 10/16/2012 3:14:39 AM PDT by markomalley
I have no quarrel on that point, but only to add that goal also includes no other option for the person who wants to prepare for himself, to ensure his own way. And, that is where I have a problem with a King’s Coin, King’s Rule attitude.
Do you know what the success rate of in-hospital CPR is, for non-myocardial infarction patients?
Wanna take a guess?
I ran a code team for a year in a general hospital. Obviously, CPR is a major advance in managing the initial 48 hours of a heart attack.
Other than that, there are two major categories of in- hospital arrest- first, people whose heart stops because of inability to control or reverse underlying diseases (cancer, liver failure, GI bleeding); second, elderly people who are found dead in bed on nurses end-of-shift rounds (almost always between 4 and 5:30 am).
The success rate of CPR in these two large groups is zero, except that occasional patients will remain alive with major instrumentation for around 24 hours.
This is what “futility” is about. It’s not really a RTL issue, it’s an issue of common decency.
And 30 years of asking permission for DNR has created an awful situation for families. Obviously, being asked “do you want CPR for so-and-so” implies that CPR might actually keep so-and-so alive (everybody wants THAT), when in fact nothing could be further than the truth.
Given the option, I would choose to buy medical insurance from an insurance company that meets my needs. But that insurance would not look like what is being offered by Obamacare. I would only insure against very large expenses that I could not cover out of savings. Everything else would be out of pocket.
I specifically remember back in the days of Hillary Care wherein a patient trying to get out-of-network care paid for by himself was imprisonable for the doctor and patient.
This wasn’t implemented, thankfully, but with a couple thousand pages of yet-to-be implemented liberal healthcare dogma by insurgent Democrat loyal bureacrat ideologues, I don’t put it past them ONE Fricking bit!
IOW, you wouldn’t be allowed to spend your own money, get your OWN doctor. To the government it would be blackmarketeering and punisable by imprisonment, period.
Those two thousand plus pages of ObamaCare legislation didn’t appear overnight. They didn’t come flying out Nancy Pelosi’s butt. They were written by rabid ideologes, very likely the same ideologues that SECRETLY prepared HillaryCare back in 93-4....
It is two thousand pages of guidance that can be interpreted by whoever is in charge, and in actual control of the insurgents we have in government now. Belief that they have our highest and best interests at heart is naive.
I have a niece who is a “Sandra Fluke” voter. The only thing she cares about is contraception and abortion on demand.
I try to explain to her why Obamacare is a bad idea. Finally I asked her if she would be comfortable having President Mike Huckabee’s Secretary of Health and Human Services wield the kind of power that Kathleen Sebelius currently holds.
That got her thinking...
Then ask why she thinks other people should pay for it?
I would not say she is the kind of person who thinks things through...
But she thinks other people should pay for everything, so in this she is consistent.
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Thank you for those sober and well-informed observations. The implication of many of the posts on this and similar threads, that DNR notices and their consequences are uniquely a product of state-run health systems, is unfortunate nonsense.
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