Posted on 10/22/2012 7:47:58 PM PDT by daniel885
Who won the debate? http://rlcsc.org/2012/10/22/who-won-the-presidential-debate-tonight-10-22-2012/
come on. A Republican website.
No one can “debate” a LIAR.
Mitt Romney (62%, 64 Votes)
Barack Obama (38%, 40 Votes)
Romney didn’t look strong.
I agree. Looked like he wanted to play the nice guy. Mistake.
Mitt Romney (40%, 308 Votes)
And this is an RLC site?!
He played the nice guy, but made his points as well. He didn’t want to come off hawkish and give the left anything to hurt him with this close to the election. He looked and acted presidential with a cool head - obama on the other hand resorted to calling Mitt a liar and trying cute little talking points. He was angry and over bearen in his effort to not get smacked around by Mitt again. Epic fail!
Ouch - BO up 63% to 37% for Romney.
If this had been the only debate, Obama would be reelected. Romney pretty much agreed with Obama on all the major questions and he looked less confident when he did so. This was Obama’s strongest debate of the 3. Part of that was the big built-in advantage of having much more real-world experience on foreign policy than Romney does. Part of that was Romney’s style of blurting out a few quickly stated disagreements on Obama’s foreign policy while getting into much longer passages that basically defended and praised Obama’s foreign policy.
However, in the context of all 3 debates, Romney still comes out ahead, since he won the first one overwhelmingly. Romney played it safe this time, which meant that he gave up the chance to make a new surge in the polls but he also protected himself from taking a big hit in the polls. He clearly decided since he was ahead in the polls that he would try to lock in his gains and not double down. Romney also calculated that since people overwhelmingly will be voting on the economy and not on foreign policy, it wasn’t worth risking taking a hit on a foreign policy disagreement when he was already running ahead on the economy. Time will tell if the strategy was successful or not, but it seems sure to keep the election a close nail-biter for the time being.
Mitt finally perfected the way to prevent the other guy from interrupting, by simply continuing to talk in a pronounced fashion to the audience and not engaging the interrupter. Paul Ryan messed that up.
However Mitt made another booboo in asking Obama a direct question, which Obama seized on, cutting into Romney’s time and taking the opportunity to bloviate on for a couple minutes on several different topics unrelated to Romney’s question.
I was only half watching (I will watch again later on YouTube), but I tend to agree. He wasn’t terrible, just not as good as I’d hoped. 0bama actually made a few good points (in the midst of his chronic lying).
I’m hoping that most of the undecideds already made up their minds after the first two debates, plus the VP debate and so maybe weren’t watching.
I don’t think Romney was terrible, just not nearly as good as he was previously. He seemed nervous about something, as if he’d been threatened. 0bama seemed much more confident.
FReeEEeePED:
This poll needs Freeping BAD!!
Who won the Presidential debate tonight? 10-22-2012
Barack Obama (63%, 838 Votes)
Mitt Romney (37%, 496 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,334
>>Romney also calculated that since people overwhelmingly will be voting on the economy...
He managed to bring up the economy repeatedly. A good tactic in my opinion. And not just a political tactic. I agree with Romney that a strong country with a strong defense is predicated on a strong economy.
FR lost me. No access. nov 6th this site will be frozen rock dead solid
Another missed opportunity for Romney was in not explaining how energy independence with oil here at home will allow us to stop being so involved in the Middle East, and would have prevented us from being involved in Iraq going all the way back to the 1990s.
As FOX pointed out, Obama seemed to have made at least 3 or 4 clear factual misstatements, maybe more than anyone had done in the prior 3 debates. So the post-debate fact checking should result in some points being deducted from Obama.
Definitely agree on the relative confidence of each candidate. Romney was looking more like Obama did in the first debate, unprepared for the quality of answers being given by his opponent.
Romney seemed weaker rhetorically for sure. He tried to make a joke in his opening statement and seemed to have flubbed it badly. It sounded like he said it’d be good if people laughed at what they said tonight even though it wasn’t on purpose? Whuh?
And Romney’s closing statement was back to the warm oatmeal, empty platitudes and bland cliches again that he puffed out at the RNC and earlier in his campaign. A pretty bad missed opportunity when he was given the final remarks in the entire debate series.
It’s absolutely true that Romney didn’t look incompetent and appeared qualified to take the job. He even introduced a few good new ideas that ought to have been developed better, like trying to reform Islam from within. But on the few points where he started to put Obama on the ropes, he failed to twist the knife. It’s very strange how Romney seems more quick and eager to adjust and change his campaign when it’s working than when it isn’t working.
Barack Obama (56%, 989 Votes)
Mitt Romney (44%, 773 Votes)
Total Voters: 1,762
I actually think Mitt played it smart. It isn’t just Americans watching these debates, but our enemies as well. One has to be very careful not to give away too much of what he’ll do as president. So, its better to talk in platitudes, and not give them any further information than necessary.
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