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California Gov. Jerry Brown accuses Proposition 30 foes of 'Orwellian propaganda'
Mercury News ^ | Oct 23 2012 | Steve Harmon

Posted on 10/23/2012 7:23:07 PM PDT by WilliamIII

SACRAMENTO -- With less than two weeks to go before Election Day, Gov. Jerry Brown said Tuesday he is doing everything he can to overcome what he called the "Orwellian propaganda" of big-monied opponents to his tax-hike measure. Brown said voters have never faced "such a stark choice" as they do with Proposition 30, which would provide $6 billion annually to the state and avert $5.4 billion in cuts to schools and community colleges and another $250 million each to the University of California and California State University. "If you vote yes, you get billions into schools, or you vote no and you can yank billions out of schools and jack up tuition," the governor said in a telephone interview with this newspaper. "It's an either/or simple matter of arithmetic with monumental consequences for the whole state." Attack ads on Proposition 30, which seeks to raise the state sales tax by a quarter cent and income tax on higher-income earners, have come largely from the Small Business Action Committee, a group that had earlier been powered by a $16 million donation from wealthy Republican activist Charles Munger of Palo Alto. He's the half brother of Molly Munger, who is bankrolling Proposition 38, the chief rival ballot measure that seeks to raise $10 billion a year for 12 years for schools by hiking income taxes on all but the poor.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: moonbeam

1 posted on 10/23/2012 7:23:08 PM PDT by WilliamIII
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To: WilliamIII

If Gov. Moonbeam really cared about children, he’d chuck the not-so-high-speed-rail and poor that money into the schools.


2 posted on 10/23/2012 7:34:43 PM PDT by JeffChrz (What is in the president's college transcripts that he's trying to hide?)
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To: WilliamIII

They’re saving one of the deepest, hottest chambers in all of hell for liberals like Jerry Brown.


3 posted on 10/23/2012 7:36:40 PM PDT by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: WilliamIII
LOL!

Charges of "Orwellian" from Mister "Moonbeam", who intentionally selected a whacko artist to paint his official Governor portrait...

Mister Brown is presiding over the financial ruin of the once-Golden State, and (like all socialists), does not grasp how Prop 30 would accelerate the fiscal death spiral.

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4 posted on 10/23/2012 7:37:05 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: WilliamIII; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

Orwellian? I thought it was McCarthyist or Nixonian if not fascist!


5 posted on 10/23/2012 7:45:05 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: WilliamIII

Governor Brown may mean well, but his prescription of ever-higher taxes is 100 percent wrong. There are 3 things he could do to help heal California’s economy, create jobs for its millions of unemployed, and provide sufficient revenues for schools. 1. Substantially cut California’s astronomically-high taxes, 2. Reduce and rationalize economically-depressing regulatory overload, and 3. Clean up or clean out the large fraction of unqualified and/or corrupt managers in his state bureaucracy. How about it, Jerry? Are you ready to really lead California forward?


6 posted on 10/23/2012 7:45:21 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: JeffChrz

The schools in California are a lost cause. They exist only to feed teachers salaries and pensions and to prop up unions and democrat politicians. No matter how much money is poured into the schools they always come begging for more, even when they have worse education results to show for the money already wasted every time.

I’m for throwing everyone involved in education here out and starting over from scratch. And firing them all starting from the top down. I’m NOT kidding, I’m so sick of this garbage.


8 posted on 10/23/2012 7:45:59 PM PDT by Bullish (The stench from this amateur regime stinks all the way to Kenya.)
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To: JeffChrz

If he thinks it’s Orwellian to call a gas tax “sales tax”, I’m betting he’s never actually read anything from Orwell.


9 posted on 10/23/2012 7:50:00 PM PDT by PressurePoint
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To: WilliamIII

Jerry does it for the children. Or to the children.

10 posted on 10/23/2012 7:54:39 PM PDT by TChad
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To: WilliamIII

The obvious solution is to put a $2000/head tax on the 3,000,000 illegals in California. That will either take care of the $6 billion Brown wants, or it will encourage the illegals to leave, saving the state tons of money on education, health care, and welfare. A win-win proposal.


11 posted on 10/23/2012 8:08:35 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: WilliamIII

The best thing for California would be to destroy the public school system and parents take back the minds of their own children. He is corrupting children now in Kindergarten with the teaching that unnatural, vile behavior is “Good” so it normalizes evil behavior. Our boys will think like the Afghani boys and Ancient Greeks.

The minds are being destroyed with the curricula of John Dewey and his Fabian Socialists and the later Marxists like Billy Ayers. Why do people allow the public schools and the vile TV to indoctrinate their children????

You can research Charlotte Iserbyt, John Taylor Gatto, BK Eakman—they explain the damage to the worldview of children by this insidious “education” system that was set up by degenerate Fabians who are intentionally destroy all morality and virtue-—to recreate a Brave New World.

There is so many good videos available on this subject. All parents should be forced to watch. This man warned us 40 years ago-—and he is STILL warning—and funny thing. His well researched findings are still being IGNORED. We have thrown unlimited money at perpetuating this socialist/marxist curricula forever!!!! We need it ended NOW.

All people involved in writing curricula for the socialist public schools should be in prison for the damage they have done to children.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELa5IOLt3_Y


12 posted on 10/23/2012 8:09:01 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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Vote against Proposition 30 - check. Thanks Jerry. Can you tell me your recommendations for the other Propositions so I can vote accordingly?


13 posted on 10/23/2012 8:30:16 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: WilliamIII

Prop 30 bails out the union pensions that were looted by the same people raising our taxes. That’s the truth, Moonbeam.


14 posted on 10/23/2012 8:34:01 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: WilliamIII

You convinced me Jerry. I will vote against prop 38. Oh, I also will be voting against prop 30.


15 posted on 10/23/2012 8:50:46 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Ignorance is bliss- I'm stoked)
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California has gotta pass Prop 30. There is absolutely nothing at all in their tax revenue that is either wasted, nor can be cut.


16 posted on 10/23/2012 9:29:33 PM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Revolting cat!

Orwell wrote about Stalin and Stalinists in the West.

It wasn’t “paranoia”, it was grounded in FACT.

Stalinsts hate to be exposed. Communism kills. Stalinists lie.

And Liberals do too.

The Green Menace on the other hand is a bunch of Marxist pseudoscience redistribution and carbon credit tax shelters sales. Talk about paranoia and hysteria. The worl’s gonna DIE!


17 posted on 10/24/2012 12:40:39 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: WilliamIII; SierraWasp; Ernest_at_the_Beach; tubebender; steelie; Jim Robinson; DoughtyOne; ...

What is dangerous is Moonbeam going into a Black church in Oakland this past sunday to push his increase our taxes scam, Prop 30, for the children. That is a total violation of the separation of church and state.

If an opponent of prop 30 did that in a large all white church, the mediots would be all over that person for violation separation of church and state.

Brown, Biden and Obozo can go to Black churches and push their political poison with no problem. In mosgt cases, they often have tv and print media coverage to push their bs on tv news after the violation of the separation of church and state.

California Freepers need to vote no on Prop 30 and Prop 31, the prop 13 killer.

Prop 31 will make others pay for the tax and spend local governments like Oakland, San Jose, LA and other liberal controlled cities/counties in California.


18 posted on 10/24/2012 6:11:39 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (We are the 53%, who pay taxes and keep this country going inspite of the 47% rat moochers!)
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To: WilliamIII

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!


19 posted on 10/24/2012 6:23:18 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: JeffChrz
JeffChrz wrote: " If Gov. Moonbeam really cared about children, he’d chuck the not-so-high-speed-rail and poor that money into the schools."


Teachers Unions in California agree with you wholeheartedly.
California schools are broken despite getting a lot of money because of the Teachers Unions.


20 posted on 10/24/2012 9:40:08 PM PDT by bd476
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To: Grampa Dave
Every word you typed is the truth!!!

I just blows me away that the IRS gives these black churchs and even the church Obama and so-called "reverend" Wright preaches hate in a break for their constant violation of the 501(c)3 rules against charitable organizations doing politics!!!

Can't you do anything about these dastardly deeds G.D.???

21 posted on 10/24/2012 9:44:47 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("The New Normal," is FAR from any normality!!!)
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