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RUSH: What Obama Could've Done in Libya
| October 24, 2012
| Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 10/25/2012 1:26:42 AM PDT by Yosemitest
What Obama Could've Done in Libya
October 24, 2012
RUSH: Laurie in Pittsburgh as we continue. Welcome to the program.
Great to have you on the EIB Network. Hi.
CALLER: Rush, I'm very honored to speak with you. Longtime listener.
You truly changed my life. I was born a liberal. (laughs)
I'm in central Pennsylvania and basically saw the light and I've since been conservative.
I appreciate what I learn from you. I look forward to hearing your take on things.
And I'd like for you, if you could today, to help to educate me.
Here's my question.
Because of the e-mails, we know that they were watching the whole Benghazi attack in real time.Here's my question:
Could you educate me on what actions they could have taken to change the outcome?
CALLER: Thank you.
RUSH: However, I've got a time constraint problem here.
You're gonna keep the radio on?
CALLER: No, no, I don't have to... Oh, I can, yes. Yes.
RUSH: Well, if you want to hang on, you can.
Continue to hang on. But I've got a time-constraint problem.
Basically we had military assets within an hour's time.
We had military assets in Italy and throughout the Mediterranean that we could have deployed within an hour.
He had armed UAVs. We had unmanned vehicles. We had drones flying over.
RUSH: Is Laurie still there?
Laurie, are you still there in Pittsburgh, or did you hang up?
CALLER: I'm here. I'm here.
RUSH: Very quickly. Here's the upshot of what could --
two things I want to tell you.
You want to know what could have been done to maybe protect --
CALLER: Yes, and WHO would have done it?
For example, I'm a nurse, so I can give oxygen. I can start CPR if it's a code, WHO would have come in to run the code on this so basically these people would have stayed alive?
like if it's a code blue, I can start oxygen, I can start CPR,
but I need a doctor to run the code.
RUSH: Well, this would go up to Obama.
I mean something like this when you're ordering military action, you've gotta get the president involved and probably get the joint chief.
Obama would have had to sign off an attack like this, I would think, anyway.
I'm not a military expert. But it's a good question. We'll find out.
I don't know off the top of my head who would have the flexibility or latitude to order --
maybe a local commander could have.
WHAT was nearby?
Sharyl Attkisson from CBS reported the other day that
"The Pentagon says it did move a team of special operators from central Europe to the large Naval Air Station in Sigonella, Italy, but gave no other details.
Sigonella is just an hour's flight from Libya. Other nearby bases include Aviano and Souda Bay.
Military sources tell CBS News that resources at the three bases include fighter jets and Specter AC-130 gunships."
Those are excellent for crowd dispersal. They are effective in flying and buzzing a crowd to disperse it.
Fox just had a graphic up of all the nearby assets that could have been used.
Now, Sharyl Attkisson of CBS, in a report that we aired of hers earlier this week, said,
"Sending the military into another country can be a sensitive and delicate decision. So we don't know if Libya granted permission or denied permission, and some are saying that that would be the real hurdle.
CBS News has been told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did seek clearances from Libya to fly in their airspace,
but the administration won't say anything further about what was said or decided on that front."
And if Libya didn't grant permission, we just sit there and let this happen?
But even beyond that, Laurie, after all this has happened, to conduct a cover-up and lie about this for seven or eight days
and claim that it was a video that incited a crowd that got out of control.
We know that nothing of the sort happened.
And it wasn't just Obama who made that statement, and six times alone at the UN.
He sent Susan Rice out on five Sunday morning TV shows.
The White House press secretary was making the same claim that it was a video that was responsible for this.
The president of the United States flew to a fundraiser in Las Vegas then doubled back for Letterman and another fundraiser with Jay-Z knowing full well that it was not a video.
They knew within two hours what was going on and who was behind it.
The other factor here is that WHOEVER did this clearly was not afraid of doing it.
And I think something else that needs to be talked about here, there was no fear, there was no reluctance on the part of this group to engage in this activity.
We should have been prepared for something like this. It's 9/11.
It's the anniversary of 9/11. There was real-time video of this thing taking place.
Saxby Chambliss, who is a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said that they've been begging for these e-mails that Reuters and CBS discovered yesterday ever since the attack, and the State Department hasn't produced 'em.
Does that help you?
CALLER: Yes, it does. And I have to agree with everything that you said because
when I heard them talking about the video, I thought,
"Okay, this is a YouTube video that no one has seen,"but yet how many times at the convention did we talk about Osama Bin Laden dying and then, you know, so quickly before it?
It's like, I'm not stupid
RUSH: Well, speaking of that, I'm glad you brought that up.
Wasn't Obama the guy who said he would move heaven and earth to get bin Laden?
RUSH: It was. He'd move heaven and earth to get bin Laden.
And yet he didn't lift a finger to get the people attacking our consulate, killing our people.
CALLER: And I guess also, too, no insight to the thought that
if you broadcast and brag about what you do, then people are gonna come back at you.You brag about something, guess what?
They're gonna see how tough you are. They're gonna challenge you.
RUSH: Well, that, too. I mean, that explains Cairo.
Now, there were protests in Cairo and what was happening in Cairo,
people were protesting our embassy, and they did climb the wall there, By the way, you should know, I heard K. T. McFarland on Fox this morning.
and they ripped down our flag and they raised the Al-Qaeda flag.
She's the former national security adviser for George W. Bush.She said that Al-Qaeda is in 30 countries now.
They're not decimated. They're not on the run.
I forget what Obama's term is, but they haven't been decimated.But the people on the ground in Cairo were shouting, "We're all Osamas, Obama, we're all Osamas."
Meaning, Obama, like you say, was bragging about getting bin Laden.
Twenty-one times they mentioned it and bragged about it at the Democrat convention.
And these protesters in Cairo were saying, "Yeah, well, we're all Osamas, Obama."
So, you know, Obama's crowing has come home to roost.
I'm not gonna sit here 'cause
I don't have near the knowledge and certainly not the experience. I don't even want to go there.
I don't know what could have been done militarily to go in there and prevent the deaths of these four.
But what I do understand and what is outrageous is
this purposeful, this outrageous lie that was constructed purposely to cover everybody.And it's also, I think, very curious to me, HOW do we know this now?
As I say, Chambliss was saying
the Senate's been trying to get these e-mails since the attack, Somebody did.
and the State Department wouldn't release 'em.
Last night CBS had this; then Reuters has their story; then it ends up on Fox.
Somebody released these e-mails from within.
Somebody at the State Department or somebody at the administration released this,
because there are people there, I'm convinced, who are not gonna take the fall for this
once everything is known about it, and particularly after the election, if Obama loses.So I think it's all very curious, and I say again,
keep a sharp eye on Mrs. Clinton,Laurie, I'm glad you held on. Thanks very much.
because I guarantee you she has protected herself.
She is not gonna take the fall for this, once it comes to that, if it does.
She's not gonna take the fall for it.
She fell on the sword in Peru and said it was her responsibility. She's not gonna end up being the fall guy on this ultimately when it comes to the real nut-cracking time on this.
And it will at some point.
RUSH: Here's Steve, Palm Beach, Florida. Steve, I'm glad you called.
Welcome to the EIB Network, sir. Hello.
CALLER: (garbled cell) Hello. Discussing the goings-on in Benghazi,
everyone assumes there was a drone overhead; it's being proven out.And the thing people don't realize is, drones don't just happen to show up.
They suck up an amazing amount of bandwidth.
They have to be tasked sometimes a month in advance. Two weeks is even short notice.
Someone knew to be looking watch over Benghazi at that time, at that place for some reason.
So the question is:
WHO was operational control?
WHO assigned the task order?
RUSH: So what are you saying?
It could be just 9/11, but you sound like you're saying somebody had to know something might have been going on there to task a drone?
CALLER: It would be unusual -- quite unusual -- that a drone just happened to be there.
I've worked in aviation all my life.
I've worked with some people that are in the ISR and drone business.
And they've told me some of the failings of the upper-tier drones are
that they soak up bandwidth that's very limited And a battlefield commander can't just say, "Oh, I need a drone here now."
and they have an enormous trail and they're expensive to operate
It usually is several weeks in advance that he's gonna arrange for that.
Even in >i?dire emergencies it's very hard to get a drone overhead a target to do anything, be it observation or whatever.
RUSH: All right. Well, I'll take this and look at it.
Interestingly here, I've got a couple of e-mails from military friends of mine describing drone activity particularly in this area.
I'm gonna go back and look at 'em and compare them to what you've said,
'cause I don't know that much about drones. But Cheryl at Attkisson at CBS, again to remind you, said that there was a drone and other reconnaissance aircraft above Benghazi.
I didn't know it took this much effort to get one,
and I didn't know it required as much bandwidth as you say to keep one deployed over an area.
She said CBS had been told that
"hours after the attack began, an unmanned Predator drone was sent over the mission So from CBS:
and that the drone and other reconnaissance aircraft apparently observed the final hours of the protracted battle."
The drone was sent after the attack began. You say it had to have been deployed much earlier in order to be there.
So I gotta check this out and find out which is the case.
But he said something about you need a month in advance or couple days in advance to deploy it?
I had not heard that.
I will look at it.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: benghazi; christopherstevens; drone; glendoherty; isr; scramble; seansmith; sourcetitlenoturl; tyronewoods; uav
Military Scramble Order Overseas
First, I've got over 26 years working in military control towers, most of them as the watch supervisor/crew chief on duty.
Scrambling aircraft to respond to urgent situations normally starts at the North American Aerospace Defense Command.
The scramble order comes down through a secured phone call on a direct line.
In the attack on the U.S. embassy on Benghazi, the drone control would have been from MacDill AFB, FL, by U.S. Central Command, and would have been in direct contact, or maybe even remote control to the situation room in the White House.
Watch this 4 minute 48 second video Inside the Situation Room.
The pResident SHOULD HAVE issued to order to scramble fighters to Benghazi, to get there in minimum time.
Then he SHOULD HAVE issued a second order scrambling AC-130 gunships to respond to Benghazi, and have them stand by for more orders.
This should have been controlled by the pResident, who should have monitored and responded with guidance from his Situation Room
staffed by men and women from the Department of Homeland Security, the intelligence community, and the military,
all of whom are committed to ensuring that the President of the United States is provided all the information and intelligence he needs to do his job.
Here is a source
from the Telegraph.co.uk.
"The schemes are overseen by the US State Department's Office of Syrian Opposition Support (OSOS) and Foreign Office officials.
America has set aside $25 million for political opponents of President Bashar al-Assad
while Britain is granting £5 million to the cause of overthrowing the regime."
Look at Egypt protests: secret US document discloses support for protesters
Read from www.IsraelNationalNews.Com, WikiLeaks: US Secretly Backed Plans for Rebellion in Egypt
You might want to look at 20112012 Egyptian revolution
For tomorrows read. Thanks.
posted on 10/25/2012 1:53:02 AM PDT
My pleasure, you’re welcome.
posted on 10/25/2012 3:07:56 AM PDT
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
Chris Stevens, Glen Doherty, Sean Smith, Tyrone S. Woods, R.I.P.
September 13, 2012, by Sara Noble
These men were fearless, dedicated, and honorable public servants.
We can never thank them for their sacrifice.
I believe they are with God and my prayers are with them.
They were soldiers for peace who gave their lives for their country and for Libya.
They were all men who believed in this fledgling nation of Libya and I hope their dreams for Libya are realized.
They were innocents in a war they had nothing to do with and a peace they had everything to do with.
They won’t be the first innocents to die and they won’t be the last on both sides.
I hope God protects us and our men and women in Africa and the Middle East and changes the minds and hearts of the Muslim people.
I pray that President Obama finds the guidance he needs to properly lead us out of this crisis.
posted on 10/25/2012 3:30:07 AM PDT
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
"Sending the military into another country can be a sensitive and delicate decision. CBS News has been told Secretary of State Hillary Clinton did seek clearances from Libya to fly in their airspace, but the administration won't say anything further about what was said or decided on that front."
Someone commented yesterday on a talk radio program (can't remember which one) of something so simple, why I and apparently no one else has (as of yet) thought (or more than likely, have decided not to raise this issue as to NOT embarrass the regime) to ask the man-child-mouthpiece (Carney) Her Thighness or anyone else from the DOD, White Hut on down:
IF, as the lying, dissembling, CYA, Dear Leader Admin is using as an excuse for not responding with Military assets that they had "asked Libya for 'permission' to respond"....
WHY was NO such "permission" required or sought, when we sent the Seals into Pak-ees-stan (a sovereign country) to get Bin Laden?
Inquiring minds want to know!!!
posted on 10/25/2012 3:31:29 AM PDT
The Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II
, a.k.a. Barry Soetoro
shouldn't have asked, to start with.
He should have announced to Libya, "We're coming, and IF you get in the way, we'll step on you too.
But, since his agenda is the destruction
of the United States, it's military, and it's image, he did what he thought would do the MOST damage.
The Fabian Fascist and Arab-Kenyan is trying to rebuild the United States into a turd-world country, like his home country of Kenya.
Watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within"
Then watch that 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America
posted on 10/25/2012 3:48:59 AM PDT
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
Interesting about the drone.
If it was sent ahead of time, that would be more damning than the emails.
I thought I had heard that it was there during the attack - not after - watching it in real time.
But if it was sent ahead of time...hmmm.
Leads me to believe 0 planned this as an Oct. surprise, so he could swoop in and save the day...and it got out of control.
0 couldn’t cut it in a cake factory, so it’s not surprising he’d mess up his OWN planned surprise...
posted on 10/25/2012 4:11:40 AM PDT
(The downside of liberty is the need to tolerate those who despise it.)
The answer will come out and probably before the election.
A UAV (Unmanned Aerial Vehicle or drone) can be diverted, but to have it over site at the start if the attack if it was diverted, isn't logical.
It's possible, but not probable.
The standard UAV for observation doesn't fly very fast.
However, satellite observation would be a different story, and I'm not up to speed on that one.
posted on 10/25/2012 4:23:21 AM PDT
(It's simple. Fight ... or Die !)
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