Posted on 10/25/2012 1:24:29 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
The continuance and/or discontinuance of the wind production tax credit is the subject of much debate among lawmakers and lobbyists at the moment, and it's an issue President Obama often likes to bring up as a hot talking point on the campaign trail, particularly in when he's in Iowa. Advocates like to throw around impressive-sounding statistics about how the wind industry is constantly furthering its own potential and providing Americans with an ever-greater proportion of their energy needs, and how the wind industry provides a bunch of jobs. Here's some of the latest data, via The Hill:
Wind power posted the greatest gain in domestic energy consumption in 2011 as overall energy use dropped, according to an analysis by the Energy Department's Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory (LLNL).
Energy consumption from wind power rose 27 percent in 2011 to 1.17 quadrillion Btu (British thermal units), up from 0.92 in 2010, LLNL said, citing U.S. Energy Information Administration data.
Energy consumption from wind could rise in 2012 as well, as newly installed electricity capacity increased 40 percent in the third quarter compared with 2011, the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA) announced last week.
But AWEA says investment already is falling off for 2013, with the fate of an industry tax credit hanging in the balance. …
Democrats, led by the Obama administration, call the incentive a jobs issue, citing industry estimates that ending it would cost 37,000 jobs.
Sure, more wind farms have come online and supplied more power in the past couple of years due to sustained government “investment” (tax credits, state renewable portfolio standards, etcetera) while Americans’ overall energy usage has dropped (due to increased technological efficiency across all spheres and, oh yeah, we’re stuck in an almost-recession), but why is it that the moment the wind industry’s biggest source of special federal treatment is called into question, all of this ostensibly marvelous potential seems to suddenly disappear? As RealClearEnergy points out, when it comes to wind, it’s always boom or bust:
The wind energy lives and dies by its tax credit. That’s because there is no money to be made in generating electricity from windmills. They are tremendously materials intensive, consuming steel and concrete in prodigious amounts. Each 40-story windmill produces 2 megawatts at best, so you need hundred of them to equal a conventional power plant. Even then, they generate unpredictably and only 30 percent of the time. The only thing that makes them worth building is the production tax credit.
With Republicans now in control of the House of Representatives, however, the PTC will probably not be renewed unless Democrats achieve a remarkable victory in November. As a result, windmill construction is about to end almost completely. Layoffs have already begun.
The wind industry and its lobbies are throwing all of the well-monied power and influence they have into the issue, but the problem is that all of these green jobs the Obama administration likes to tout aren’t wind-powered; they’re subsidy-powered. Ergo, they are not productive jobs and they come at an overall cost to our economy, whatever the supposed benefits and trumped-up statistics might say.
If payments aren’t made, the lease is broken, I’d think.
Yesterday a ship entered SD bay with windmill blades on deck from China. Obama is pumping the Chinese economy with his green program.
Most folks didn’t read the fine print.
they were too starry-eyed by all of that taxpayer cash that was being waved around.
That's the key! I'm fascinated by the development of so-called alternative energies. I just want them to be developed like computers, cars, the telephone, and every other invention we've come to depend on. Without government "help."
If that's so, then you don't need subsidies, do ya?
Wind power is a complete disaster
There is no evidence that industrial wind power is likely to have a significant impact on carbon emissions. The European experience is instructive. Denmark, the worlds most wind-intensive nation, with more than 6,000 turbines generating 19% of its electricity, has yet to close a single fossil-fuel plant. It requires 50% more coal-generated electricity to cover wind powers unpredictability, and pollution and carbon dioxide emissions have risen (by 36% in 2006 alone).
Gotta keep those subsidies rolling in to you though, don't we?
...and in the form of mandated load percentages that power companies deliver to their customers, regardless of any actual additional power need, and also regardless of the additional costs involved.
To me, it makes no sense to "need" (to fulfill mandates) to deliver 1,000MW of wind generated power, that requires the installation of 1,000MW of wind farm AND 500MW of backup conventional generation, rather than being allowed to simply build a 1,000MW base load plant.
IF the market can do it competitively, and without the subsidies, then fine; otherwise, forget it.
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