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BOMBSHELL: US Troops Wouldn't Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support..
Gateway Pundit ^ | October 26, 2012 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off – And the decision most likely came from the White House.

FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.

The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.

So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this,

“The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.”

How much more information did they need?

* * * * *

Then there’s this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:

Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.

One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not “paint” a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.

Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.

If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.

If that SEAL was actively “painting” a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!

This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says,

“This is bigger than Watergate!… The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.“

A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.

(VIDEO AT LINK)

Here is part of that conversation.

CALLER: Well, there’s three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, it’s like an IM. I mean, it’s immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So it’s immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then there’s a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, “This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this,” and that’s what would have happened.

So no one in the White House can deny that — well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, “Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril.” And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, “I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes.” And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didn’t need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?

I’m giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, that’s when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So there’s always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.

Read the rest here. Hat Tip Truth and Common Sense


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abdication; benghazi; benghazigate; cas; derelictionofduty; libya; muslimbrotherhood; obama; obama4alqaeda; obama4terrorists; obamaabdication; obamatreason; obamavsamerica; shadowwars; standdown; threatmatrix; traitorinchief; treason; waronterror
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Now imagine that Mr. Obama was a Republican and how that would change the coverage of this and his poll numbers...
1 posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:39 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is HIGH treason.


2 posted on 10/26/2012 6:32:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That muslim-sympathizing POS left those boys to die over there and now the chickens are coming home to roost. May they roost well and he be tried accordingly.


3 posted on 10/26/2012 6:36:33 PM PDT by lgjhn23
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To: ConservativeMan55

Incompetence at large


4 posted on 10/26/2012 6:36:53 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else.

I wonder what it was.


5 posted on 10/26/2012 6:37:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If obama where a Republican he would have been executed by now as a traitor.
I can’t beleive it, it is OMG every minute.


6 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:16 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Re-posting this from another thread: If you have a Facebook page please “like” any online article honestly covering Benghazi and depicting Obama as an outright liar and make a personal comment describing the seriousness of the issue. Perhaps the social media can somehow make this story go “viral” and prompt better coverage from the MSM. This story should completely disqualify Obama from having a 2nd term (as if we needed more data for that contention).


7 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:24 PM PDT by BlueStateRightist
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This isn't necessarily correct. Current designators generate coordinates to be passed along to air support. If they were asking for air support there isn't any reason they wouldn't generate a list of coordinates they wanted serviced immediately when air support arrived.

Additionally, there was a Predator overhead. They could have been passing coordinates to the Predator crew for them to start working ROE/PID prior to armed air assets arriving. I'm guessing the ROE for this situation would be extremely restrictive.

8 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:37 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Hearing reports that Chaffetz has said that Hamm said he was not asked to act.- meaning Spooky wasn’t in the air.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 6:41:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this were from a normal conservative site I’d say bogus. But Blackfive is the real goods. They have the experience and the contacts with those who have even more experience. When you think about it logically it makes all the sense in the world. There’s no reason to light up a target if there’s no system at hand to take it out. If these ragheads were smart, and the way they used the mortar says they were, they’d know that the Tallies in ‘stan track lasers and infrareds using cell phone cameras, and I’d guess that Woods knew that too and wouldn’t be exposing himself for no reason or waiting for help two hours out.


10 posted on 10/26/2012 6:41:32 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Steely Tom

Had it not been for the SEALS who disobeyed orders, everyone at that compound would have died. No witnesses. No problem.


11 posted on 10/26/2012 6:42:35 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good grief!
How many more bombshells do we need!?


12 posted on 10/26/2012 6:42:47 PM PDT by vanilla swirl (searching for something meaningful to say)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
was there a hit on the ambassador from Chicago? or was this all to create a crisis and draw the country together and get obama re elected..except it blew up in their faces. at the time Obama was catching heck due to economy and they needed a game change.
13 posted on 10/26/2012 6:43:47 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: Fai Mao

Sickening


14 posted on 10/26/2012 6:43:57 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: Fai Mao
Incompetence at large


'Imcompetence' my islam-hating white ass !

It's TREASON, committed by Øne muzrag goatf***er aiding and abetting the murder of American security personnel by 'his' coreligionist muzrag goatf***ers.

15 posted on 10/26/2012 6:44:18 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have heard enough. I want Obama gone.


16 posted on 10/26/2012 6:45:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Two things to bear in mind:

We don't know fer shure what armed assets were available over Benghazi that night.

We don't know fer shure if anyone was 'painting' anyone with laser designators.

I'm uncomfortable when the story gets way out in advance of the facts we know and have nailed down.

Just don't want to be embarrassed.

17 posted on 10/26/2012 6:46:38 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: Fai Mao

This wasn’t incompetence.


18 posted on 10/26/2012 6:47:43 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: BlueStateRightist

What is it called?


19 posted on 10/26/2012 6:49:47 PM PDT by svcw (Why is one cell on another planet considered life, and in the womb it is not.)
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To: dalebert

I think you’ve hit on it. Remember back when one of his staff said the Food Stamp President needed a 9/11 moment in his re-election. I think this was it, but it was botched. Remember that you are dealing with scum and nothing is too low for them to try ... “the ends justify the means” so say his comrades (Ayers, Davis, Van Jones, Clintons, etc.).


20 posted on 10/26/2012 6:51:02 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The law of unintended consequences is an unforgiving and vindictive b!tch!)
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To: RummyChick

I heard Chaffetz say that on Hannity tonight.
[paraphrased]:

I went to Iraq. I asked Ham why support was not sent. He answered ‘Because nobody asked.’

Those reports you are hearing are true. :)


21 posted on 10/26/2012 6:51:58 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: DJ MacWoW

Hell no, it wasn’t incompetence! Chip Woods, Ty Woods’ father, called it what it was. It was murder.


22 posted on 10/26/2012 6:52:17 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m missing something. How do we know that either Woods or Doherty were painting a target with a GLD? That’s something that leaves no mark, obviously, so what makes anyone say this happened? Did the overhead drone record the light of the laser?


23 posted on 10/26/2012 6:52:31 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: All

Here’s the Fox news timeline sequence of events for anyone who wants to study this. An amazing aspect of what these American Hero’s encountered,

At 2:10 you see the escape vehicle(armored car) gets fired on from a ‘crowd’, 2 grenades were thrown under it, then hit with machine gun fire from 2 feet away;

Video
Timeline: Libya attack minute by minute
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1925141359001/timeline-libya-attack-minute-by-minute/?playlist_id=903226511001


24 posted on 10/26/2012 6:54:21 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Speculation only: I would not be surprised if he makes his 9/11 moment by sacking an underling in grand style for not making him “personally aware” just in time for the election.


25 posted on 10/26/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All
If you haven't heard this YOU MUST HEAR IT!

Rush military caller says that Obama ordered no response to Benghazi attack video 12:21

26 posted on 10/26/2012 6:55:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: ConservativeMan55
The kidnapping of Ambassador Stephens is becomming more and more likely to be the operational plan being hatched by Obama. The blind sheik would have been exchanged as he had already committed to.

Unfortunately for Stephens and Obama, the level of resistance exceeded the expectations of that which the plan needed to succeed.

To me, it's the only explanation.

27 posted on 10/26/2012 6:55:19 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: vanilla swirl

Obama could have been directing terrorist traffic to the consulate and the MSM would sill cover for him.


28 posted on 10/26/2012 6:55:50 PM PDT by topfile
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To: Steely Tom
Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else.

I wonder what it was.


That is the real question.

Something was going on that the ambassador was involved in that was so top secret and controversial that obumbler was determined that it never be discovered.

His mistake was, as is the case with pathological liars, believing that no one would doubt him.

The result of insane ego.

I never did understand how anyone could have voted for obumbler, but it would seem to me that even the most uninformed voter in the world would not vote for him after today's news.

Devastating.

29 posted on 10/26/2012 6:56:10 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: Steely Tom
Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else. I wonder what it was.

The four American lives, including the first Ambassador killed since 1979 (Afghanistan), were sacrificed so that Obama could retain the election talking point that alQaeda was in decline ("Osama is dead and GM is alive"), and to avoid the Iran-Contra-style embarrassment of having the US population find out that Obama was supplying alQaeda with weapons to help oust Qaddafi and keep the Arab Spring rolling.

Probably worth the cost, to Democrats.

30 posted on 10/26/2012 6:57:05 PM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Earlier I posted that there was a C-130 in the air at the embassy. I was challenged on the issue and had to back off because I believed I read a post addressing a C-130 over another location at another time, and confused the issue.

It seemed reasoned that we would have an air asset in the area if the were lasing targets.

Now I’m wondering. Am I going to be proven right?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2950758/posts?page=118#118


31 posted on 10/26/2012 6:57:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Barack Hussein Obama, mmm, mmm, gone...)
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To: ottbmare

IIRC FoxNews reported this.


32 posted on 10/26/2012 6:58:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: MestaMachine
Absolutely!

That makes Obama a traitor and murderer.

33 posted on 10/26/2012 6:58:52 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: DJ MacWoW

A wiff of something very rotten just breezed past my nostrils......perhaps an even larger underground stench awaits discovery.
Who hired that convict to make an “F” rated movie and then used it?


34 posted on 10/26/2012 6:59:23 PM PDT by doc maverick
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To: topfile
Photobucket
35 posted on 10/26/2012 7:00:20 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is there not widespread demand for the Obama’s immediate resignation over this? All the sound and fury signifies nothing but hype at this point.


36 posted on 10/26/2012 7:01:24 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: old curmudgeon

It could have been more lives lost- some people made it, IIRC.


37 posted on 10/26/2012 7:02:07 PM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I just watched/heard that too..also, Issa said they’re getting all this info from whistleblowers? I got the feeling that they have more but are going to trickle it out. But, how much worse can it get??
& I’m still hearing nothing but crickets from the disgusting LSM.


38 posted on 10/26/2012 7:02:17 PM PDT by rainee (Her)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

So, does this mean Spooky wasn’t in the air???

Can Hamm act without authorization from Panetta in a fight like that?


39 posted on 10/26/2012 7:03:18 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: ctdonath2
Why is there not widespread demand for the Obama’s immediate resignation over this?

Obama should be hoping he loses the election. He could avoid impeachment that way.

40 posted on 10/26/2012 7:03:32 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: ottbmare

Go here. http://www.blackfive.net/main/2012/10/bigger-than-watergate-proof-that-the-president-is-lying-about-benghazi.html

Read the updates and the discussion all the way to the bottom


41 posted on 10/26/2012 7:04:21 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Steely Tom

the attack went on to 4 in the morning, OK now where was obama during this and was he watching the attack and then went to bed, did he go and give the order to stand down?

Simple questions and the media ignore all of this.

ABC is getting hammered about this and let us keep this up on the media and send them mail and to your local media.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/father-of-slain-former-seal-new-report-raise/


42 posted on 10/26/2012 7:04:25 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree with you. Why would an operator expose himself to the extent necessary to operate a GLD if he didn’t think there was something aloft to hit the target he was designating? It makes no sense.

How credible is the “targets were being painted” information? I do not know its source. It seems to have shown up on the internet about 90 minutes ago.


43 posted on 10/26/2012 7:04:34 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: RummyChick

GRAPHIC photo of Stevens - hadn’t seen this one

Notice different pants on

https://twitter.com/gretchininTN/status/262010605467226112/photo/1/large


44 posted on 10/26/2012 7:04:56 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: PghBaldy

I know Fox reported it. I’m asking how would they or anyone else know this happened?

I’m trying to advocate on some large forums like Facebook, in some places where thousands would see my posts. I don’t want to make this statement unless there’s some evidence. Saying “Oh, I read on this conservative forum that a blogger said it was reported on Fox,” is not going to persuade anybody.


45 posted on 10/26/2012 7:05:03 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama should be in prison with his terrorist pals


46 posted on 10/26/2012 7:07:22 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: ottbmare

Jennifer Griffin of Fox News said she was quoting CIA sources who were on the ground in Benghazi.


47 posted on 10/26/2012 7:07:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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To: doc maverick

Too convenient, wasn’t it.


48 posted on 10/26/2012 7:09:02 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (My faith and politics cannot be separated)
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To: RummyChick
GRAPHIC photo of Stevens - hadn’t seen this one

The guy on the right is Gadaffi in that photo.

49 posted on 10/26/2012 7:09:50 PM PDT by Never on my watch (I can see November from the Chick-Fil-A drive through lane.)
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To: MestaMachine

Exactly. It wasn’t held to the four who were massacred, there were somewhere between 20 and 30 survivors—thanks to those SEALS that rescued them!

This administration was willing to let all of them die. I just can’t wrap my head around ANY of this!


50 posted on 10/26/2012 7:10:02 PM PDT by Shelayne (Even so, come quickly, Lord Jesus!)
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