Skip to comments.BOMBSHELL: US Troops Wouldn't Have Been Painting Targets on Ground Unless There Was Air Support..
Posted on 10/26/2012 6:30:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
BOMBSHELL: US troops in Benghazi would not have been painting targets on the ground unless there was air support overhead. But someone called it off And the decision most likely came from the White House.
FOX News reported earlier today that security officers on the ground in Benghazi had a laser planted on a target that was firing on the annex.
The team was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. In fact, at least one member of the team was on the roof of the annex manning a heavy machine gun when mortars were fired at the CIA compound. The security officer had a laser on the target that was firing and repeatedly requested back-up support from a Spectre gunship, which is commonly used by U.S. Special Operations forces to provide support to Special Operations teams on the ground involved in intense firefights.
So there were two drones in the air recording the attack on the ground. And now we know the CIA team at the annex was in constant radio contact with their headquarters. The White House was able to watch the attack live back in Washington DC. Yet, yesterday Defense Secretary Leon Panetta said this,
The U.S. military did not get involved during the attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi, Libya, last month because officials did not have enough information about what was going on before the attack was over.
How much more information did they need?
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Then theres this bombshell at BlackFive from a former Delta operator:
Having spent a good bit of time nursing a GLD (ground Laser Designator) in several garden spots around the world, something from the report jumped out at me.
One of the former SEALs was actively painting the target. That means that Specter WAS ON STATION! Probably an AC130U. A ground laser designator is not a briefing pointer laser. You do not paint a target until the weapons system/designator is synched; which means that the AC130 was on station.
Only two places could have called off the attack at that point; the WH situation command (based on POTUS direction) or AFRICOM commander based on information directly from the target area.
If the AC130 never left Sigonella (as Penetta says) that means that the Predator that was filming the whole thing was armed.
If that SEAL was actively painting a target; something was on station to engage! And the decision to stand down goes directly to POTUS!
This is HUGE. It should be obvious by now that someone is not telling the truth. As Blackfive says,
This is bigger than Watergate! The worst has to be the team on the ground knowing that the President just left you to die.
A caller today discussed this with Rush Limbaugh.
(VIDEO AT LINK)
Here is part of that conversation.
CALLER: Well, theres three networks, Rush. The e-mails that have been released are unclassified e-mails. On the top secret side, a flash traffic message from the embassy Tripoli to the White House Situation Room, its like an IM. I mean, its immediately responded to. You have to acknowledge receipt of it. Okay? So its immediate. It gets to the person, the watch officer sitting there, boom, flashes on his screen, he has to acknowledge receipt. And then theres a protocol for who he then sends it to. He physically turns to someone, the senior guy on watch, This is a critical element of information. POTUS needs to hear this, and thats what would have happened.
So no one in the White House can deny that well, they can deny it, but the fact is the protocol says someone marched their happy little ass up to the senior guy standing next to POTUS and said, Sir, ambassador in Libya is in peril. And if he was missing, that is even a higher precedence. And then the chain would have also gone out automatically to the geographic combatant commander, AFRICOM, and he would have then turned to his special operations commander and said, I want the In-Extremis Force, you know, strip ready in five minutes. And evidently they were strip ready in Sigonella and they would have the assets to penetrate the airspace, you know, an MC-130 papa, which is a C-130 specially equipped with electronic countermeasures. They didnt need permission to enter Libyan airspace, okay?
Im giving you a lot of Inside Baseball stuff, and maybe putting myself in a little peril by doing it, but the In-Extremis Force, they would have been chomping at the bit to do this. It was turned down, POTUS, at his five p.m. Eastern time meeting with the principals, thats when he put the kibosh on everything. It was a conscious act. It has to be because, you know, the In-Extremis Force is required to be prepared to do In-Extremis non-combatant evacuation operations for its geographic responsibility, the entire continent of Africa. So theres always somebody ready to go, and the aircraft are always prepared to go.
Read the rest here. Hat Tip Truth and Common Sense
This is HIGH treason.
That muslim-sympathizing POS left those boys to die over there and now the chickens are coming home to roost. May they roost well and he be tried accordingly.
Incompetence at large
Whoever gave the order to not engage made a choice and decided that the lives of four Americans were not worth as much as something else.
I wonder what it was.
If obama where a Republican he would have been executed by now as a traitor.
I can’t beleive it, it is OMG every minute.
Re-posting this from another thread: If you have a Facebook page please like any online article honestly covering Benghazi and depicting Obama as an outright liar and make a personal comment describing the seriousness of the issue. Perhaps the social media can somehow make this story go viral and prompt better coverage from the MSM. This story should completely disqualify Obama from having a 2nd term (as if we needed more data for that contention).
Additionally, there was a Predator overhead. They could have been passing coordinates to the Predator crew for them to start working ROE/PID prior to armed air assets arriving. I'm guessing the ROE for this situation would be extremely restrictive.
Hearing reports that Chaffetz has said that Hamm said he was not asked to act.- meaning Spooky wasn’t in the air.
If this were from a normal conservative site I’d say bogus. But Blackfive is the real goods. They have the experience and the contacts with those who have even more experience. When you think about it logically it makes all the sense in the world. There’s no reason to light up a target if there’s no system at hand to take it out. If these ragheads were smart, and the way they used the mortar says they were, they’d know that the Tallies in ‘stan track lasers and infrareds using cell phone cameras, and I’d guess that Woods knew that too and wouldn’t be exposing himself for no reason or waiting for help two hours out.
Had it not been for the SEALS who disobeyed orders, everyone at that compound would have died. No witnesses. No problem.
How many more bombshells do we need!?
'Imcompetence' my islam-hating white ass !
It's TREASON, committed by Øne muzrag goatf***er aiding and abetting the murder of American security personnel by 'his' coreligionist muzrag goatf***ers.
I have heard enough. I want Obama gone.
We don't know fer shure what armed assets were available over Benghazi that night.
We don't know fer shure if anyone was 'painting' anyone with laser designators.
I'm uncomfortable when the story gets way out in advance of the facts we know and have nailed down.
Just don't want to be embarrassed.
This wasn’t incompetence.
What is it called?
I think you’ve hit on it. Remember back when one of his staff said the Food Stamp President needed a 9/11 moment in his re-election. I think this was it, but it was botched. Remember that you are dealing with scum and nothing is too low for them to try ... “the ends justify the means” so say his comrades (Ayers, Davis, Van Jones, Clintons, etc.).
I heard Chaffetz say that on Hannity tonight.
I went to Iraq. I asked Ham why support was not sent. He answered ‘Because nobody asked.’
Those reports you are hearing are true. :)
Hell no, it wasn’t incompetence! Chip Woods, Ty Woods’ father, called it what it was. It was murder.
I’m missing something. How do we know that either Woods or Doherty were painting a target with a GLD? That’s something that leaves no mark, obviously, so what makes anyone say this happened? Did the overhead drone record the light of the laser?
Here’s the Fox news timeline sequence of events for anyone who wants to study this. An amazing aspect of what these American Hero’s encountered,
At 2:10 you see the escape vehicle(armored car) gets fired on from a crowd, 2 grenades were thrown under it, then hit with machine gun fire from 2 feet away;
Timeline: Libya attack minute by minute
Speculation only: I would not be surprised if he makes his 9/11 moment by sacking an underling in grand style for not making him “personally aware” just in time for the election.
Unfortunately for Stephens and Obama, the level of resistance exceeded the expectations of that which the plan needed to succeed.
To me, it's the only explanation.
Obama could have been directing terrorist traffic to the consulate and the MSM would sill cover for him.
I wonder what it was.
That is the real question.
Something was going on that the ambassador was involved in that was so top secret and controversial that obumbler was determined that it never be discovered.
His mistake was, as is the case with pathological liars, believing that no one would doubt him.
The result of insane ego.
I never did understand how anyone could have voted for obumbler, but it would seem to me that even the most uninformed voter in the world would not vote for him after today's news.
The four American lives, including the first Ambassador killed since 1979 (Afghanistan), were sacrificed so that Obama could retain the election talking point that alQaeda was in decline ("Osama is dead and GM is alive"), and to avoid the Iran-Contra-style embarrassment of having the US population find out that Obama was supplying alQaeda with weapons to help oust Qaddafi and keep the Arab Spring rolling.
Probably worth the cost, to Democrats.
Earlier I posted that there was a C-130 in the air at the embassy. I was challenged on the issue and had to back off because I believed I read a post addressing a C-130 over another location at another time, and confused the issue.
It seemed reasoned that we would have an air asset in the area if the were lasing targets.
Now I’m wondering. Am I going to be proven right?
IIRC FoxNews reported this.
That makes Obama a traitor and murderer.
A wiff of something very rotten just breezed past my nostrils......perhaps an even larger underground stench awaits discovery.
Who hired that convict to make an “F” rated movie and then used it?
Why is there not widespread demand for the Obama’s immediate resignation over this? All the sound and fury signifies nothing but hype at this point.
It could have been more lives lost- some people made it, IIRC.
I just watched/heard that too..also, Issa said they’re getting all this info from whistleblowers? I got the feeling that they have more but are going to trickle it out. But, how much worse can it get??
& I’m still hearing nothing but crickets from the disgusting LSM.
So, does this mean Spooky wasn’t in the air???
Can Hamm act without authorization from Panetta in a fight like that?
Obama should be hoping he loses the election. He could avoid impeachment that way.
Read the updates and the discussion all the way to the bottom
the attack went on to 4 in the morning, OK now where was obama during this and was he watching the attack and then went to bed, did he go and give the order to stand down?
Simple questions and the media ignore all of this.
ABC is getting hammered about this and let us keep this up on the media and send them mail and to your local media.
I agree with you. Why would an operator expose himself to the extent necessary to operate a GLD if he didn’t think there was something aloft to hit the target he was designating? It makes no sense.
How credible is the “targets were being painted” information? I do not know its source. It seems to have shown up on the internet about 90 minutes ago.
GRAPHIC photo of Stevens - hadn’t seen this one
Notice different pants on
I know Fox reported it. I’m asking how would they or anyone else know this happened?
I’m trying to advocate on some large forums like Facebook, in some places where thousands would see my posts. I don’t want to make this statement unless there’s some evidence. Saying “Oh, I read on this conservative forum that a blogger said it was reported on Fox,” is not going to persuade anybody.
Obama should be in prison with his terrorist pals
Jennifer Griffin of Fox News said she was quoting CIA sources who were on the ground in Benghazi.
Too convenient, wasn’t it.
The guy on the right is Gadaffi in that photo.
Exactly. It wasn’t held to the four who were massacred, there were somewhere between 20 and 30 survivors—thanks to those SEALS that rescued them!
This administration was willing to let all of them die. I just can’t wrap my head around ANY of this!