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Posted on 10/26/2012 7:58:25 PM PDT by TigerClaws
WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Thursday.
Both appointments must be confirmed by the Senate.
Rodriguez is the commander of U.S. Army Forces Command and has served in a “variety of key leadership roles on the battlefield,” Panetta said.
He’s “a proven leader” who oversaw coalition and Afghan forces during the surge in Afghanistan, and “was the key architect of the successful campaign plan that we are now implementing,” Panetta said.
(Excerpt) Read more at stripes.com ...
I heard a story today from someone inside the military that I trust entirely. The story was in reference to General Ham that Panetta referenced in the quote below.
quote:
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
The information I heard today was that General Ham as head of Africom received the same e-mails the White House received requesting help/support as the attack was taking place. General Ham immediately had a rapid response unit ready and communicated to the Pentagon that he had a unit ready.
General Ham then received the order to stand down. His response was to screw it, he was going to help anyhow. Within 30 seconds to a minute after making the move to respond, his second in command apprehended General Ham and told him that he was now relieved of his command.
The story continues that now General Rodiguez would take General Ham’s place as the head of Africon.
I found this story when I got home after hearing this story.
quote:
President Barack Obama will nominate Army Gen. David Rodriguez to succeed Gen. Carter Ham as commander of U.S. Africa Command and Marine Lt. Gen. John Paxton to succeed Gen. Joseph Dunford as assistant commandant of the Marine Corps, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced.
As I was typing this I heard John Bolton on Greta say that there are conflicting reports of General Ham’s comments on this tragedy and why a rapid response unit was not deployed. Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12.
Interesting. Thanks for all your posts.
"Although forces were on alert and ready to launch an operation if needed, the US military commander for Africa, General Carter Ham, the chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Martin Dempsey, and Panetta all decided against any intervention as they had no clear picture of events unfolding in Benghazi, he said."
Please take a look at Lyndon Johnson’s service record.
Why are you calling this a flashback? This doesn’t sound like an old article, and you don’t have an old date on it. This is confusing.
And what you are posting is way too important to get us confused about.
The patriots are spilling the beans.
Clearly the Kenyan traitor has lost the military, and they are breaking the truth of the treason in Benghazi by the marxist Islamist arms dealer in the white house, who kept the supply of arms to al queda going through Libya to support insurrection in Syria and elsewhere.
Evil, dangerous criminals. Every day it gets worse, as more info comes to light. Makes the Fast and Furious insanity look like a teddy bears picnic. Who thought up all this sinfulness?
The Stars and Stripes article is dated Oct 18 - last week. So, Obama is giving the heave-ho to the commanders who were subjected to his treachery on 9-11-12.
Where is General Ham now? Nothing on the internet other than what Panetta said.
Ooooh this is very big! How often does it happen that a general has to disobey orders to save American lives?
Gen. Ham is a 4-star https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/GEN_Carter_F.Ham_2011.jpg
Thanks for clarifying.
This is from September 11. On September 10, General Ham was in Nevada.
http://www.army.mil/article/87055/Ham__Guard_essential_to_Africa_partnerships/
There’s nothing since 9/11 on Ham. The 9/25 article referred to his positions/comments earlier in the year.
So where is he now? Why is he so quiet?
[Please take a look at Lyndon Johnson’s service record.]
He got a Silver Star for riding in a cargo plane.
I suppose that scumbag second-in-command is a friggin Obot.
ssve for history
Panetta is lying, just like everyone else in this administration. I don’t trust anything he says.
lol
@ Tigerclaws - Thank you for this post. Other’s — An interesting scenario.
Here is a bit from Gen Ham’s bio - Note he took command in Mar 2011, it should be a 3 year tour. He has 36 years in the Army. We’ll need to look out for an announcement of his retirement.
Carter F. Ham (born February 16, 1952) is a United States Army general, who serves as the second and current Commander, U.S. Africa Command. In that position, he has been in command of the initial 2011 military intervention in Libya.
Ham previously served as Commanding General, U.S. Army Europe and Seventh Army from August 28, 2008 to March 8, 2011. Prior to that, he served as Director for Operations (J-3) at the Joint Staff from August 2007 to August 2008 and the Commanding General, U.S. 1st Infantry Division from August 2006 to August 2007. He assumed his current assignment with the Africa Command on March 8, 2011
Africom? That sounds racist. Can I say that in public?
“I think it will be pretty unremarkable across the military, and I think that is the way it should be,” said Ham, who helped lead a study of the military’s attitudes toward a change in the law.
Is is therefore hard to have a lot of sympathy for him as he was the willing collaborator of the Mahdi's regime and was rewarded with four shiny stars. Finally the Mahdi's boys manged to cross a line even this opportunist couldn't swallow and he found out just how expendable he was.
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Ah yes, a Silver Star for being on an airplane that turned back before reaching the target and not coming under fire. Politics is grand ain’t it? Phony sailor, but that was par for the course for political posers.
Routine change of command?
The date:
Ex-Commander in Afghanistan Eyed for Africa
By ERIC SCHMITT and THOM SHANKER
Published: September 19, 2012
WASHINGTON — Gen. David M. Rodriguez, a former top Army commander in Afghanistan, has been chosen by the Pentagon to take charge of the military’s Africa Command, which in the wake of the Arab Spring has become one of the Defense Department’s most challenging theaters of operation.
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So a little over a week after the attack the routine change of command happens.
The article I posted was from October 18 making it a flashback. Likely should have posted it all as a vanity.
That’s a good find. Ham gave warnings. Knew of the threat.
Apparently Ham replaced a Gen Ward (African American; involved in a procurement scandal). Ham had won liberal friends based on a “common sense approach” to don’t ask dont tell. Politics.
Should be a three year tour. He’s about a year and a half in and a week after 9/11 he’s out the door. Doesn’t sound routine.
Very informative article, thanx.
Bump
bfl
Gen. Ham is partly responsible for letting OPEN GAYS in our once fine Military??? LEt him HANG!
Hope to see Gen. Ham before congress soon.
Former Ambassador Bolton was on Greta last night. He said a Congressional fact finding group was told by Ham that “No one asked him to” intervene but he was prepared to do so.
That contradicts SofD Panetta’s comments yesterday that Ham was in on the decision!
“(The) basic principle is that you don’t deploy forces into harm’s way without knowing what’s going on; without having some real-time information about what’s taking place,” Panetta told Pentagon reporters. “And as a result of not having that kind of information, the commander who was on the ground in that area, Gen. Ham, Gen. Dempsey and I felt very strongly that we could not put forces at risk in that situation.”
Panetta was referring to Gen. Carter Ham, the head of U.S. Africa Command, and Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
"Bolton says someone needs to find out what Ham was saying on 9/11/12."
There is another forum in which a commenter states that Rep. Jason Chaffetz asked General Carter Ham why he didn't respond in Benghazi, and General Ham is quoted as saying, "No one asked me to respond".
The commenter, however, did not link to an article or video, so it's hard to verify. Wonder if there's any truth to this.
The “no one aske” was stated by former ambassador Bolton on Greta. Supposedly Ham said that to a congressional investigator.
Thanks for the clarification.
It was on the sean Hannity Show last night,I saw It and that is exactly What was said By Jason Chafetz. No On asked him
Thanks for the ping. I hope General Ham will say what actually happened.
One must wonder if there was some sort of mass mutiny going on relative to the rescue of our people in Bengazi - Coincidental to General Ham’s firing:
Navy replaces admiral leading Mideast strike group
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. Navy said Saturday it is replacing the admiral in command of an aircraft carrier strike group in the Middle East, pending the outcome of an internal investigation into undisclosed allegations of inappropriate judgment.
Rear Adm. Charles M. Gaouette is being sent back to the USS John C. Stennis’ home port at Bremerton, Washington stae, in what the Navy called a temporary reassignment. The Navy said he is not formally relieved of his command of the Stennis strike group but will be replaced by Rear Adm. Troy M. Shoemaker, who will assume command until the investigation is completed.
It is highly unusual for the Navy to replace a carrier strike group commander during its deployment.
The Navy did not reveal details of the allegations, citing only an accusation of “inappropriate leadership judgment” that arose during the strike group’s deployment to the Middle East. Rear Adm. John Kirby, the Navy’s chief spokesman, declined to discuss the investigation.
The Stennis group deployed from Bremerton in late August and had entered the Navy 5th Fleet’s area of operations in the Middle East on Oct. 17 after sailing across the Pacific. The Stennis made port visits in Thailand and Malaysia on its way to the Middle East.
It deployed four months earlier than scheduled in response to a request by the commander of U.S. Central Command, Marine Gen. James Mattis, to maintain two aircraft carriers in the Middle East. The Stennis replaced the USS Enterprise carrier group.
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta visited the Stennis and its sailors in Bremerton shortly before they departed. He thanked them for accelerating their deployment on short notice.
“I understand that it is tough,” Panetta said. “We are asking an awful lot of each of you, but frankly you are the best I have and when the world calls we have to respond.”
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