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Why Women Canít Do Pull-Ups
NY Times ^ | OCTOBER 25, 2012 | TARA PARKER-POPE

Posted on 10/31/2012 1:16:41 AM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 10/31/2012 1:16:50 AM PDT by neverdem
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2 posted on 10/31/2012 1:21:45 AM PDT by Scutter
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To: neverdem

I could do pull ups when I was a 14 year old girl, many moons ago, but chin ups were easier.


3 posted on 10/31/2012 1:23:27 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: neverdem
Congress needs to pass a law making pull-ups illegal because it discriminates against Wymyn. Just another example of Nature's “War on Women” /sarc
4 posted on 10/31/2012 1:26:02 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Greed + Envy = Liberalism)
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To: neverdem
The female body is the perfect design for conservation of resources intended to provide the most efficacious physiological conditions for reproduction.

Political Correctness force people to fear confirming these biological facts and thus enabling the deaths of untold numbers (or should I say “unreported?”) from emergency situations that demand upper body strength to address—situations firemen, policemen and male soldiers are best equipped to address.

If you cannot do at least several pull-ups you are too handicapped to rescue heavy bodies from fires, subdue and arrest aggressive criminals or survive hand to hand combat (there are,of course,very very very few exceptions).

Sexual political correctness is a benighted biological premise that makes people rise to a fantasy potential with deadly results.

5 posted on 10/31/2012 1:41:30 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: neverdem

LOL!!! Well!!

Guys can’t hold a baby on their hips, so THERE!


6 posted on 10/31/2012 1:43:41 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

BUMP


7 posted on 10/31/2012 1:56:12 AM PDT by TexasTransplant (Radical islam is islam. Moderate islam is the Trojan Horse.)
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To: neverdem

Funny story....

Some background....My middle daughter was a Level 10 gymnast when she was 12 and colleges were watching her then for their NCAA programs....She was going “Elite” which is Olympic level when she turned 15 but we decided against it....

Fast forward to when she was 16, she is drop dead gourgeous, the kind of girl guys just stop whatever they’re doing and stare at....

At the same time, my oldest daughter is a Zoomie at the Air Force Academy and we fly out to visit her as a family. She takes us on a tour of the Academy grounds and buildings when we stop by the gym. As we look around, we notice one of the areas has a series of chin-up bars with were occupied by about 20 guys working out.

All of them stopped for a moment when they saw my middle daughter and stared, then they started grunting out mutliple pullups as too “impress”

My older daughter (the Zoomie) immediately noticed this and since she knew several of them called out a following challenge; “ I bet my little sister can beat all of you in pull-ups” Needless to say they took the challenge and the best of them banged out 22 pull-ups. They felt secure in their masculinity and ability.

My middle daughter then jumped up and grabbed the bar. She quickly did 15 chin-ups with perfect form then pretended to struggle to reach 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, then she hung there for a second to tease them and quickly went to 21, 22, 23....until she hit 40. At that point she put her legs in a full pike position and continued to 50 when she quit. She appeared to be able to do many more had she wanted to...

I’ve never seen such a collective group of dejected boys.....LOL


8 posted on 10/31/2012 1:59:38 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: nevergore

My oldest daughter was a marathon runner. She used to out run the jocks for the fun of it


9 posted on 10/31/2012 2:06:09 AM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: TexasTransplant

:)


10 posted on 10/31/2012 2:10:15 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Read my post #8...LOL


11 posted on 10/31/2012 2:12:24 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Fai Mao

My sister is 50 years old and still runs an annual ~170 mile super-marathon that takes multiple days to complete.

It’s amazing what people can do. Though she still can’t do a pull-up: she doesn’t have the upper body strength.


12 posted on 10/31/2012 2:12:43 AM PDT by agere_contra ("Government creates nothing" - Romney, 2012)
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To: nevergore

50 pull-ups? That is incredible. I can do about 15 when I’m in tip top shape.


13 posted on 10/31/2012 2:14:56 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: nevergore

First off, I need sleep. I read Zoomie as Zombie. :)

Secondly....what a GIRL you’ve raised!!! I LOVE it!!!!


14 posted on 10/31/2012 2:16:09 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Happy Rain
Good points!

On a side note, when I was training lifeguards for the Red Cross in college one of the trials was to tread water for 5 minutes while holding a 10 pound rubber coated brick. I would LOVE doing the demo- treading water, talking away about how to best support the brick close to your body, holding it with both hands, and explaining the pros and cons of each different kick. Then I would casually place the brick back on the deck and send the first three trainees in.

I'd give them a count down and start the stopwatch. At "go!" the muscular guys would grab the brick off the pool deck and sink straight to the bottom! While many of the curvier girls would bob right along and never get their bangs wet. Even the littlest girls still had more buoyancy in their thighs, butt and breasts than an average guy. And it definitely gave us an edge in that one test! :p

I spent most of those days retrieving bricks off of the bottom of the pool. But it was good fun, and almost everyone we taught was smart enough to let the brick go if they got into trouble.

15 posted on 10/31/2012 2:16:45 AM PDT by Casie
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To: Brad's Gramma

Guys can’t hold a baby on their hips, so THERE!”

Not only can we hold a baby on our hips, we can do it while also stirring a pot of food cooking on the stove, mentally putting together a grocery list, talking on the phone and corralling a toddler who is creating mayhem.


16 posted on 10/31/2012 2:18:17 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

Yeah!

And don’t forget that said toddler is hanging ON to your pants legs all the while...AND then, let’s not EVEN go into the dog prancing around the room!

:)


17 posted on 10/31/2012 2:22:27 AM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Yardstick

Check out these records.

http://www.extremepullups.com/world-records/


18 posted on 10/31/2012 2:30:35 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Yardstick; nevergore
It is quite "incredible". In fact, it's likely BS. Alicia Weber's world record is 39 pull-ups in the one-minute category. For the 3-min category, Alicia's world record back in 2008 was 57 (but she has since increased it).

(Ms Weber owns every pull-up record on the books in the women's categories, up until you get into the 6-hours (or more) categories.)

Maybe this random former gymnast unknowingly set a world record without any training or trying... or maybe a proud dad is boasting a bit much.

19 posted on 10/31/2012 2:36:06 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: Casie
Feminists think taking into account the physical differences between the sexes discriminates against women.

They fail to grasp the overwhelming empirically proved reality that nature herself has long since determined the actual worth of each sex...

...during deer hunting season there are but a few “doe” days while every day is “buck” day.

20 posted on 10/31/2012 2:56:00 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("Remember the Benghazi 4")
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To: Teacher317
My thoughts ..... My daughters did gymnastics , one tops out at 5'2" and can pop off ...... Could pop off 24 pull up (hands facing away) when she was in her best shape. I would like a link to a video of the girl doing 30 pull ups since she popped off 51. Hahahhaa.

like this girl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtqW2SYYxP0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

21 posted on 10/31/2012 2:56:33 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat they sh#t on.)
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To: Teacher317

First...she wasn’t timed...second, she competed at international level (no training?,random gymnast?). She was competeing at the time...Her coaches were two retired Olympian gymnasts....

I owned a gymnastics facility and we have produced several “Elite” gymnasts...

Thier warm-ups each day would have been termed “record breaking” by your definition.....

You know nothing, yet you call BS.....

The fact is, you are just a “jerk”


22 posted on 10/31/2012 3:04:19 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: Grams A

Interesting how a simple article has turned into a battle of the sexes with women coming up with all kinds of examples to compensate.


23 posted on 10/31/2012 3:05:18 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Yardstick

That’s a major portion of gymnast’s routine...they use their arms to lift their body weight repetitively.....Practice 6 bdays a week and 4 hours per day, every day of the year for (except Christmas day and Thanksgiving day) over 10 years when she was 16.

My daughter was a specialist on uneven Bar....

When she competed, her body fat was just about nil.....


24 posted on 10/31/2012 3:10:02 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: raybbr

Bfl


25 posted on 10/31/2012 3:11:40 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Fai Mao

“My oldest daughter was a marathon runner. She used to out run the jocks for the fun of it”

Yes, I knew a girl like that. I went backpacking with her once and with a ten pound pack she could not keep up with men carrying eighty pounds.


26 posted on 10/31/2012 3:13:01 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Teacher317; nevergore
Couple things I got from a quick check on Google. First, those records are for numbers of repetition per period of time (1 mins, 5 mins, and so on), and Webber record for 30 mins was 419 pullups (and 61 squats) made on January 2011. Meanwhile, nevergore did not say anything about time limit. In fact, from the description, it might have taken a while since the daughter was pretending a bit.

Second, nevergore's daughter was a level-10 gymnast. It's just where the elite gymnasts are before they entered national or national competitions and become the 'real elites'. I google level-10 gymnastic skills, and it doesn't seem what nevergore said to be exaggerated.

27 posted on 10/31/2012 3:14:14 AM PDT by paudio (5Bs: Bain, Big-bird, Binders, Bayonets, and... Bullshiter ! <= 0bama's campaign message)
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To: Grams A
Not only can we hold a baby on our hips, we can do it while also stirring a pot of food cooking on the stove, mentally putting together a grocery list, talking on the phone and corralling a toddler who is creating mayhem.

My wife wants in on the secret to corralling the toddler.
28 posted on 10/31/2012 3:22:13 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Scutter
I look at a volleyball player and wouldn't expect her to be able to do a pull-up, but I know she's fit.

Volleyball - best spectator sport ever invented.

30 posted on 10/31/2012 3:40:08 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Casie

I noticed the same thing when I was a water safety instructor back in the early 60s but it started with the brick on the bottom of the pool at the deep end. Women had few problems, men struggled.


31 posted on 10/31/2012 3:44:31 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: paudio

Thanks! In fact, she was ready to petition for “elite” status but we decided against it. There are a lot of ‘technical’ reasons why not to...


32 posted on 10/31/2012 3:52:17 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: neverdem

My kids are losers, but I don’t care - they’re still smart.


33 posted on 10/31/2012 3:55:12 AM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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To: R. Scott
I guess WWII US Airmen didn't call their life jackets “Mae Wests” for nothing! Some things just float! Haha!
34 posted on 10/31/2012 4:00:57 AM PDT by Casie
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You posted “On a side note, when I was training lifeguards for the Red Cross in college one of the trials was to tread water for 5 minutes while holding a 10 pound rubber coated brick. I would LOVE doing the demo- treading water, talking away about how to best support the brick close to your body, holding it with both hands, and explaining the pros and cons of each different kick. Then I would casually place the brick back on the deck and send the first three trainees in. I’d give them a count down and start the stopwatch. At “go!” the muscular guys would grab the brick off the pool deck and sink straight to the bottom! While many of the curvier girls would bob right along and never get their bangs wet. Even the littlest girls still had more buoyancy in their thighs, butt and breasts than an average guy. And it definitely gave us an edge in that one test! :p
I spent most of those days retrieving bricks off of the bottom of the pool. But it was good fun, and almost everyone we taught was smart enough to let the brick go if they got into trouble.”

Why? Women have a significant higher percentage of FAT body composition. Fat is buoyant. Muscle is dense. Your females floated because they were buoyant corks.


35 posted on 10/31/2012 4:06:04 AM PDT by mountaineer1997
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To: nevergore

You’re welcome. Congratulation for being a great parent to your great and lovely daughters!


36 posted on 10/31/2012 4:08:44 AM PDT by paudio (5Bs: Bain, Big-bird, Binders, Bayonets, and... Bullshiter ! <= 0bama's campaign message)
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To: neverdem

I saw girl once who did 47 pullups. She could actually do more but she was embarrassing us guys and thought better of it.

I only made it to 38 and thought I was hot stuff as I bested the other guys.


37 posted on 10/31/2012 4:10:16 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Happy Rain

Here and there there are special police or firefighter or military tasks that women are more suited for (e.g., certain undercover or small-space tasks), but for the vast bulk of assignments you are absolutely correct.

On the other hand, how many fat, middle-aged policemen do we see who couldn’t or wouldn’t run down a criminal for anything?

Most of our jobs that require such physical strength should of course be held by men. But rather than give them early retirement in the forties or fifties, when their physical powers fade, if they haven’t been promoted up into management they should be given extensive retraining for second careers.


38 posted on 10/31/2012 4:11:31 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: neverdem
I don't think I ever could do a single pull up. I can't recall ever completing one regardless of the motivation.

Chin ups I could do in my more vital youth, a fair number of them.

I could never handle much weight in a bench prtess, either.

I could do as much as any of the other lads could (weight-wise and stamina-wise) regarding any normal lifting requirement. I hit for average with relatively few home runs. Also, lack of great speed pushed me more toward the middle of the offensive line in football, although I could pass a football (and throw a baseball) with the same or better end result than most of the other lads.

I believe there was something about the way my arm and back muscles grew that made these "over hand" efforts more difficult.

For that matter, I found the lasses with the same percent of body fat as the really lean lads to be less attractive than the lasses populationg the more normal ranges. My wife belonged in the more "normal" subset, although she was quite athletic. Such is life.

39 posted on 10/31/2012 4:13:36 AM PDT by stevem
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To: neverdem

Pull ups are not needed to be in the kitchen cooking.

Yea, it’s sarcasm. Lighten up.


40 posted on 10/31/2012 4:21:27 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Casie

They did add a lot of buoyancy to the chest area.


41 posted on 10/31/2012 4:33:19 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: nevergore

Former level 10 here.

Your post brought back great memories of whooping the boys fannies in gym classes.

Ahhhh....those were the days.

Rope climbing races were always fun too. LOL.


42 posted on 10/31/2012 4:54:52 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: neverdem

Nope, they sure can't.

43 posted on 10/31/2012 5:05:32 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: neverdem
I've never been able to a single Marine Corps pullup...although I never put any real effort in learning to do so.I could do plenty of Army pullups,however...as well as pushups,which Sergent King often invited us to do about 44 years ago.
44 posted on 10/31/2012 5:06:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Ambassador Stevens Is Dead And The Chevy Volt Is Alive)
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To: nevergore
Seems the thread has hit a


45 posted on 10/31/2012 6:04:46 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: FatherofFive
Volleyball - best spectator sport ever invented.

I ref volleyball. Without a doubt, the best looking women athletes.

46 posted on 10/31/2012 6:06:21 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Vendome
I saw girl once who did 47 pullups. She could actually do more but she was embarrassing us guys and thought better of it.

Good to know there's at least one woman out there with some smarts.
47 posted on 10/31/2012 6:06:45 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

She was hot as hell too.

We dated for a few months. Fun, fun, fun and soft like a woman should be.


48 posted on 10/31/2012 6:11:20 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Dr. Sivana
My wife wants in on the secret to corralling the toddler.

Chicken wire.

49 posted on 10/31/2012 6:22:41 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (I am not going to vote for Romney..... I already have.)
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To: neverdem
I remember reading that women’s arms bend out more at the elbow than men’s and consequently, they have a mechanical disadvantage when it comes to doing pull ups. Anybody out there ever hear of that?
50 posted on 10/31/2012 6:27:50 AM PDT by stayathomemom (Beware of kittens modifying your posts.)
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