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Question: Ideas about how to realistically "Go Galt"?
11/7/12

Posted on 11/07/2012 2:53:04 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

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Thanks in advance.
1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:53:06 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

I was thinking the same things. My wife is from Venezuela and she knows exactly what ObamaNation will ultimately become.I told her that if Obama wins perhaps it would be a good time to temporarily move overseas and do some missionary work.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:27 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’d be interested in realistic suggestions too. Not sure where to start with this myself. Feel free to ask me any questions that might help render better answers.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:47 AM PST by Utmost Certainty (Our Enemy, the State)
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To: SoFloFreeper

If you haven’t already, have a good six month supply of food on hand, so that you can at least eat, if nothing else.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:51 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
We know there are dangerous plans upcoming initiation and we know "forces" are in place.

What we don't know is how we will respond when tried.

In my almost 65 years, I've never been tried

Many men have via military/combat

I enlisted but went to Korea instead of Viet Nam so .. I, and I think many conservatives, have never been tried.

And I don't want to think about nor talk openly ... but I think many are thinking thoughts we never wanted to consider.

5 posted on 11/07/2012 2:59:09 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Good question, and one for which I have no answer.

But here’s a couple of things I’m doing - I’ve been holding my savings until this day, thinking about adding on to the house and/or buying a new car. No chance now - I do NOT want to spend any more than necessary in this economy. In essence,

I’m going Galt on the spending side only, choosing not to give up my job (unless it gives me up first). They’d just fill it with someone else so the net effect would be bad for me, not so much for anyone else.

Big issue now is where to put my savings where it will hold its actual value and cannot be confiscated by a bankrupt government. Precious metals seem a little high right now, and are a bit of a gamble. Perhaps not as much a gamble as the US Dollar but still a little risky.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:59:39 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

That all depends on your financial situation.
Can you leave the country and survive on what you have?
Central and south America have some really great spots for expat families, and the Philippines, where I am, is great for single guys.

Check out Internationalliving.com and escapefromAmerica.com


7 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:03 AM PST by AlexW
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m thinking exactly the same things. Figuring out how and what to pare down to get as independent as possible. And as far away from government intervention.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:33 AM PST by JustaCowgirl (Mitt Romney -- Obama asks for votes for revenge, I ask for votes for love of country)
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To: meyer

As somebody said, skills are worth more than gold. You can trade skills more easily and they are far more portable than gold or anything else.

Your wealth should be tied up in things you can use, like clothes, food, tools. Having it tied in some sort of financial arrangement, whether it be bonds or gold or whatever, is not as valuable if nobody is buying.


9 posted on 11/07/2012 3:03:44 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Bookmark.


10 posted on 11/07/2012 3:04:20 AM PST by OldPossum
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To: SoFloFreeper

Above all, I think we need to have a way of staying in contact if FR and the right-wing internet goes dark.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 3:04:45 AM PST by oblomov
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To: SoFloFreeper

Texas. See you there.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:13 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

All those blue state people are in for some surprises, even though they were warned. For one thing, all Catholic schools will begin to close after this year rather than obey the HHS mandate. I wonder if all these “blue” communities will be happy about the additional taxes they’ll be paying for all those new students. And Catholic hospitals (one out of six of all hospitals in the US) will close as well.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:35 AM PST by mkmensinger
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To: meyer
"Big issue now is where to put my savings where it will hold its actual value and cannot be confiscated by a bankrupt government. Precious metals seem a little high right now, and are a bit of a gamble. Perhaps not as much a gamble as the US Dollar but still a little risky."

One of my big fears is that an increasingly desperate US government will find ways to confiscate retirement accounts under some guise of protecting them and also impose a capital assets tax to get at the wealth that people are trying to protect. I don't know how to fully protect against this, but my sense is that people need to move valuables out of the reach of the US government which is a tall order. Even Swiss bank accounts turned out not to be inviolable.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:50 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Truth29

Keep in mind it only takes about 90 days to starve to death.

If it comes down to it, I can choose to starve to death rather than be enslaved.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:55 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: Jonty30

Read Ferfal. having 6 months of food is nice. I can just about bet the guy that eats it won’t thank you. I have been trying to get folks to watch Dr Zhivago for years. If you haven’t you might consider it. The folks with resources have left or are leaving. Only the Bolsheviks will “have” when the dust settles. Go “to the mountains” but before you go you might want to have a little chat with Randy Weaver. That really worked out for him.


16 posted on 11/07/2012 3:09:39 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: mkmensinger

perhaps they will close, but I wouldn’t bet the farm on it. Catholic Church has let the babymurderers run the organization in the US for years. Bet they’ll find a ‘stupak’ compromise before any hospitals close down. in the long run, those buildings will get taken over by the union nurse managers to house seniors while they are sedated and euthanized - gently of course.


17 posted on 11/07/2012 3:12:19 AM PST by oldmomster
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To: SoFloFreeper
Am happy to hear ideas...I have to say my spouse was literally in tears last night, thinking about what dangers we face (not just as a family but as a society and a nation). We prayed together, asking God to guide us. HE knew this was going to happen, and HE can use this for HIS glory.

Well said...

Romney received 4 million fewer votes than did McCain four years ago. I was stunned and numbed by the results.

Michael Savage correctly predicted that Obama would win. We can only hope and pray that President Obama makes the right decisions affecting the future of all of the people he represents.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:25 AM PST by olezip
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To: wastoute

I know what you’re saying. If it is bad enough that having six months of food, for tough times, is not secure, there is no security at all, not even if you’re loaded up the backside with all kinds of ammo or guns or whatever.

But you can still create a situation that allows you to provide for yourself in case you end up between jobs and such.


19 posted on 11/07/2012 3:14:54 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: mkmensinger

That’s my job. So I’ll be out of work again in May. Thanks Obama!


20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:15:55 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: tsowellfan

Australia


21 posted on 11/07/2012 3:18:57 AM PST by Principled
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To: SoFloFreeper

Is it possible for you to garden? If you don’t have a yard, there are many sites devoted to container gardening and gardening in small spaces. From July until October of this year, we harvested an average of 5 to 7 lbs. of vegetables and fruits. We ate some and preserved and shared the remainder. Canning and dehydrating food is worth considering. Perhaps you would be interested in the gardening thread on FR.


22 posted on 11/07/2012 3:20:03 AM PST by Silentgypsy (If you love your freedom, thank a vet.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Going Galt is impossible, the next best alternative is bankrupt the system. That is very easy, get it while you can, cut back on your income, go on food stamps, get your ebt card, try to fit your life into every hand out that you can possibly receive, start taking more than you contribute, take it down fast, but have your guns ready because the takers will freak out when it’s all gone!


23 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:27 AM PST by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: meyer; SoFloFreeper
I’m going Galt on the spending side only, choosing not to give up my job (unless it gives me up first). They’d just fill it with someone else so the net effect would be bad for me

And we certainly can't have that now can we?

SFF, galting only works if the result costs the govt money. Will you pay your taxes?

24 posted on 11/07/2012 3:21:58 AM PST by HomeAtLast
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To: knarf

“And I don’t want to think about nor talk openly ... but I think many are thinking thoughts we never wanted to consider.”

You are not alone.


25 posted on 11/07/2012 3:23:13 AM PST by MachIV
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To: SoFloFreeper

Very important to be healthy and in shape because Obamacare won’t be there for us when something serious happens.


26 posted on 11/07/2012 3:24:02 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: SoFloFreeper

>>>>Thanks in advance.

I’m in the same situation. I may be a bit younger than you, but my circumstances are probably also a bit more precarious.

Do you know about this:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/11/private-city-in-honduras-will-have-minimal-taxes-government/


27 posted on 11/07/2012 3:24:17 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Principled

Australia is a good choice!

I was thinking Costa Rica or some other Central American country or some place where the dollar will go further.


28 posted on 11/07/2012 3:24:46 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: HomeAtLast
Will you pay your taxes?

Of course I will, but the unemployed auto worker and construction worker that would otherwise have worked for my benefit would not, and would instead be a cost to the government. The auto worker, in particular, was probably a liberal anyway.

29 posted on 11/07/2012 3:25:08 AM PST by meyer (Proud member of the 53%.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

With my husbands health problems since 2009, we are not good, debt-wise. We have to concentrate on getting rid of debt. We have several months of food put back, and don’t plan on making any large purchases. We need a new roof, but buckets will have to do for now. I can live with that. We need to live more self-sufficiently.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 3:27:18 AM PST by sneakers (Go Sheriff Joe!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The only way to do it is like GW Bush did in 2008 and buy a 100,000 acre ranch in South America.


31 posted on 11/07/2012 3:28:49 AM PST by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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To: olezip

Just my opinion, but I believe America is a hinderance to end times prophesy, we are a stabilizing force protecting Israel from an end time that revolves around them. BO will make us irrelevant, thus allow the final battle to occur.


32 posted on 11/07/2012 3:29:53 AM PST by qman (The communist usurper must go!)
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To: wastoute

>>>Texas. See you there.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

More importantly, though:

Milton Friedman once said that the U.S. became a strange sort of democracy because it rested on special-interest groups. The special-interest group is the real political unit, not the individual. If this is so, then it makes sense that conservatives should coalesce, not just online, but geographically. I know it’s impractical (it certainly is for me at the moment) but we should all be figuring out ways that we can live closer together; the idea of many of us moving to Texas is not so silly. While it’s fantastic that we can all communicate via the Internet and other forms of digital technology, that doesn’t help us create a political-unit.


33 posted on 11/07/2012 3:31:25 AM PST by GoodDay
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To: Truth29

Actually, that has already been discussed in some articles in recent times, but for the life of me I cannot remember the term for it. I think the number “1035” was in the title of it. Nevertheless, I think you are correct. As reality bites the idiot government, they will get desperate and start moving in.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 3:32:58 AM PST by MachIV
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To: GoodDay

I think Idaho would be more ideal.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 3:34:06 AM PST by MachIV
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To: SoFloFreeper

Friend, You won’t have to “Go Galt”. Galt will come to you once we try to borrow at the ever-accelerating rate that is necessary to keep the status quo.

You won’t like it.

Better advice: Think depression. think what can you do to make life more tolerable, and in some case simply possible. How many kids will return under your roof - or will you have to move in yourself with someone else.


36 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:00 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not just get on with your life like everyone else?


37 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:42 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not just get on with your life like everyone else?


38 posted on 11/07/2012 3:36:56 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: HomeAtLast

Being self employed and seeing my savings being eaten up by having to pay taxes out of it because the economy is so bad hardly any work is coming in now is really getting me down. Before 0 was in office, I was constantly busy and had plenty to pay taxes without having touch my savings. Now with the added burden of Obamacare I fear I’m going to slide from the middle class to ? I guess if that happens to a large enough portion of the middle class there won’t be enough people paying in to the Ponzi scheme and the 0 government system will implode in on itself o that the useless idiots can see what they’ve brought on themselves. Revelation is coming true right before our own eyes.


39 posted on 11/07/2012 3:37:48 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: qman

You know, you may have a point. A lot of folks have for a year or more believed the system to be so far gone they want to just hurry up and crash the whole thing with the idea of starting over with a clean slate. I don’t think it’s that simple, and will probably have huge implications many of those folks never calculated, but something to ponder nevertheless.


40 posted on 11/07/2012 3:38:53 AM PST by MachIV
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To: Truth29

IIRC, Nancy Pelosi has already suggested this — maybe around ‘08 or so. I think the way she had it figured out was that all 401(k), etc., funds would be put into one big government pot and then they’d take care of distribution.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 3:39:00 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not just get on with your life like everyone else?


42 posted on 11/07/2012 3:39:18 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Why not just get on with your life like everyone else?


43 posted on 11/07/2012 3:39:28 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: tsowellfan
I was thinking Costa Rica or some other Central American country or some place where the dollar will go further.

I would be very wary of any country like that. When the American economy implodes, and the global economy with it, which is now inevitable, I wouldn't want to be in a country that views me as a foreigner, and especially if there are larger, vehemently anti-American/anti-white, neighboring countries. Australia may be alright, but they too have problems. I would like Poland, but the world is going to be a much darker place, and Poland is usually not the place to be when that happens.
44 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:26 AM PST by jjsheridan5
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Exactly. And please stop with the self-pitying. You are not in a concentration camp waiting to be gassed. You belong to the fattest, wealthiest, longest lived group of people on Earth. Ever.


45 posted on 11/07/2012 3:41:46 AM PST by Skylab
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To: jjsheridan5

(Sigh). What darker place? Mark my words, the world will go on as before and nothing much will change.


46 posted on 11/07/2012 3:43:11 AM PST by Skylab
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To: Jonty30

What form of slavery do you believe you will be subjected to?


47 posted on 11/07/2012 3:43:45 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Jonty30

What form of slavery do you believe you will be subjected to?


48 posted on 11/07/2012 3:43:55 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: tsowellfan
"I was thinking Costa Rica or some other Central American country or some place where the dollar will go further."

Depending on what you want for a standard of living, look at Panama, too. However, Obama is not above interfering in the internal government affairs of Latin American countries when he wants too - like Honduras.

49 posted on 11/07/2012 3:46:02 AM PST by Truth29
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To: jjsheridan5

Panama has been considered an option, FWIW. We used to check out the site Christian Exodus.


50 posted on 11/07/2012 3:46:28 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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