I agree the GOP fell flat in GOTV - again. They got out-hustled in key swing states. But don't pretend that fraud is a signficant part of urban Dem voting percentages.
But dude... they did steal it. My advice is to speak the truth to evil.
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And then there is this:
In Florida and Ohio, 5% of voters only voted for President (did not vote for Senator). In Va and PA, it was almost even. The FL senate race was not tight but the VA race was tight. The Dem was behind for much of the night.
That tells me there was some last minute ballot stuffing.
There are so many hopeless dead issues that lead to the disaster. Move on, fight the fraud, start the Tea Party and maybe along the way we can impeach the impostor and get a real American president.
NO. Well, er, yes.. we probably should abandon the issue, if only temporarily from a strategic perspective. BUT, while counterproductive, it IS CORRECT.
It's been correct starting from the day that the property-owner-ONLY vote was taken away, well over a hundred years ago. And since then, it's just the matter of degree. By giving non-property-owners votes, it just enables the Franklin maxim about being a republic up until the day that the public realizes they can vote themselves largess from the public treasury.
I will say this about Franklin - he was slightly wrong about his grammar. It's not like a switch gets turned once the public figures this out. No, it's a steady progression, from the day that the taxpayer property-owner vote started to be watered down. The only real change is the point at which it is realized. It's another issue for discussion as to if that realization point is before or after the point at which anything short of civil war can be done about it.
Vote fraud is not only illegal, it is also dishonest and immoral. It is not to be tolerated anywhere, anytime, or by anybody, democrat, Republican, communist, or socialist. It makes not one whit of difference whether or not the vote fraud changes the outcome of an election. It is not to be tolerated, EVER! Neither are the voices who would discourage the apprehension and punishment of those who commit vote fraud.
I’m doubtful that the machines changed over the votes. Although at least in Minnesota, I’m pretty confident a lot of voter fraud happens.
In MN:
1. No photo ID is required.
2. No utility statement is required
3. You may register at the polling place on the day of the election (without ID of course).
Here’s all someone needs to do in Minnesota to vote.
Voter arrive at polling place and ask for a ballot.
Polls worker “I don’t have your name in my list. You’ll have to register here. What is your name, and where do you live?”
Voter “Mickey Mouse. I live at 555 Broad Street.”
Polls worker (talking to 2nd voter) “Will you vouch for him that he is telling the truth?”
2nd Voter. “Yes”
Poll worker “Very well. Here is your ballot”
Voter then votes and gets into van with 10 other voters and goes to 20 other polling places throughout the day.
Think about the intensity these liberals have for their beliefs and the lack moral stature of so many of them. Do you really doubt there’s not at least a thousand in all of Minnesota that do this?
Ohio, I doubt it’s less of fraud, but the early voting basically allows the campaign workers to get a bus and fill it up with every black person the come across and drive them to the polls. I suspect minority voter would probably be a lot less if it were not for early voting.
Yes..
let go of they stole it..
let go of it was the evangelicals fault..
let go of the it was the catholics fault..
let go of it was the woman vote fault...
let go of the it was the youth, hispanics or blacks fault..
Hell, even let go of the gop-e fault....
18% turnout in the primaries gave us the worst candidate since hoover, and one that can barely qualify as a rino, let alone a centrist moderate.
so, put the blame where it belongs... on the backs of the voters...
So, whether all the fraud and tampering that did verifiably happen was enough to change the outcome, I don't know. But it must be punished and stopped!
No, they stole it. Are you seriously consideration that this administration’s complete non-compliance with the military voting registration act didn’t disenfranchise military voters?
In swing states like OH, FL, and VA military absentee ballot registration was down from 70-92%. This was a deliberate act by the Obama criminal enterprise, and it’s EXACTLY in keeping with liberal principles.
You are right and wrong at the same time. I think they did steal it. However, the GOP does nothing about it; so, yes, we may as well let go of the “they stole it” meme. After narrowly surviving the hanging chad cheatfest of 2000, W should have made election reform a priority.
It is easier to use some wacky idea like stolen election than discuss the truth that Romney was a sucky candidate and way too liberal for the principled people of America who vote that way. Keep picking losers like Romney and you will continue to see the Romney lovers say the election was stolen instead of personal responsibility that Romney just plain SUCKED!!!
The Alinskyites have much fewer moral scruples. They could have infiltrated the R campaign with dozens of moles. If commies and jihadists can infiltrate the Pentagon, then it's that much easier for them to infiltrate a campaign.
And what about Florida, where the averages were off by two points? And Ohio, where we know there was massive voter fraud. It doesn't need to be a massive nation-wide conspiracy, just a focused campaign of cheating in targeted swing states.
A. There’s massive Democrat vote fraud
B. The Stupid Party refuses to do anything about it
C. Quit whining about it
The Polls were based on identical democrat turnout to 2008. However the turnout was way lower in the democrats as we knew it would be due to the polls that showed the democrat base was not energised.
Interestingly enough the republicans were very energised and turned out in droves. Yet Mitt got less votes than McCain.
However I do see the elections matched the imbalanced polls. Only one way or reason that could happen. Vote fraud. High Treason.
So get over it, suck it up and realize that we have become a demockery. Dont swallow the blue pill, that is insanity. You are going to be able to overcome the sh&^ storm in our future better if you keep your head out of the sand.
Unless every pollster was corrupt (and I doubt that), there is no stolen election. The final vote totals came out very close to the polls. Just like in 2008...and 2004...and most of the election years before that. Give up “the election was stolen” idiocy.
As far as the polls go. The media owns the polls. And the media is in the pockets of the democrats in case you did not figure that out. You can’t let up on vote fraud. Something has to be done to stop it or your vote simply does not count.