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Dear Republican Congress, Give Obama and His Boys Everything They Want
Townhall.com ^ | November 11, 2012 | Doug Giles

Posted on 11/11/2012 2:03:56 AM PST by Kaslin

A cigar aficionado and amigo of mine named Irwin penned a note to the Republican Congress the night after Obama got elected for four more years of this slop, and I thought I’d pass it on to you. Check it out ...

Dear Republican Congress,

As a conservative Republican I am begging you to give president Obama and those who voted for him everything they want.

They want higher taxes on the rich and companies. Give it to them.

They want higher capital gains taxes that will hurt their investments. Give it to them.

They want a system that will make Medicare insolvent by 2024 and Social Security insolvent soon after that. Give it to them.

They want policies that will lead to constant double-digit unemployment rates for minorities and young people. Give it to them.

They want an educational system that entraps the poor in failing schools. Give it to them.

They want higher energy prices. Give it to them.

They want to spend trillions of dollars fighting global warming while China and India continue to tap oil and coal. Give it to them.

They want 20 trillion dollars plus in debt. Give it to them.

They want the Obamacare penalties to kick in next year. Give it to them.

They want a larger, more powerful Washington DC. Give it to them.

They want a more secular society that is increasingly hostile toward religion. Give it to them.

They want a more “fair” society run by bureaucrats. Give it to them.

They want socialist cronyism. Give it to them.

They want to go down the road of Europe. Give it to them.

In addition to the aforementioned, I say that we legalize weed from sea to shining sea. Wait ... not just weed but acid. Think of how creative everyone could be and how it would distort the Obama voters’ reality from the truly sucky conditions his policies have created. That’s what you call a bona fide two-fer, folks. You’re welcome.

Oh, and we mustn’t forget cocaine and heroin legalization. And bath salts! How could I forget bath salts? Bath salts help spice things up during an unemployed weekend! Calgon’s calling. Nothing like dumping drugs into a culture of entitlement. I can’t imagine that going south.

Yes, I join with my friend Irwin and say that we give it to them and find out once and for all who is right. If we are right, they will have no one to blame but themselves, and maybe we will finally get true change in this country and in the Republican party so that we have a real choice in the years to come.

If we are wrong, then so be it. I will gladly repent of my evil conservative ways and become a socialist … I mean Democrat.


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I am not sure If I agree with this
1 posted on 11/11/2012 2:04:08 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Townhall is out of its mind.

Just one thing ... let them have the internet ...

How does THAT grab ya ?

I have no numbers, but I'll guess we're about 50 / 50 split .. those that work away from home and those that stay home.

I honestly don't know where I'd go if FR was taken down or over.

I'd feel intellectually starved and what's left of my mind would atrophy in a day or two

Take away the internet and lock in control of the money ...,

Now THERE'S a combination for ya' ...

I can't buy more coffe and I can't get on FR.

I wonder what lead tastes like?


This "let them have everything" thread has been around here a couple of times and in my opinion ... we don't need the thought ptocess.

2 posted on 11/11/2012 2:15:58 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

That’s because you know what will come of it. The socialist elites live in la-la land and really don’t know. Some of them were truly baffled by what happened in Benghazi (but others knew exactly what would happen and just acted stupid).


3 posted on 11/11/2012 2:16:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Kaslin

Doug needs to be talked off the ledge.


4 posted on 11/11/2012 2:23:10 AM PST by onona (Don't mean nothin)
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To: Kaslin

5 posted on 11/11/2012 2:35:09 AM PST by MestaMachine
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To: Kaslin
Makes no nevermind.

I would be inclined to agree IF the blame could be laid on Dear Leader and the Demo-Rats.

The Repulbli-Tards could give the RATS all of the above and when we turned into Greece with unemployment hovering around 12-14%, in a depression, $20 Trillion in debt, illegal aliens hovering around 20 million, property values in the tank, death panels, etc. (probably within 2-3 years) they will STILL (aided and abetted by their corrupt, biased media) blame it all on BOOSH...and worse yet, get away with it.

6 posted on 11/11/2012 2:37:21 AM PST by neveralib
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To: Kaslin

If we are wrong, then so be it. I will gladly repent of my evil conservative ways and become a socialist … I mean Democrat.

So we vote for over the cliff and into the abyss knowing the answer to the question, “no matter what “we” do “we” will be blamed”, so by God it is past time to do the right thing, and stand tall doing it.


7 posted on 11/11/2012 2:40:56 AM PST by wita
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To: Kaslin

Hey then don’t complain when Boehner follows your advice.


8 posted on 11/11/2012 2:41:56 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Kaslin

I understand the point he is making. The reps are in a no win situation. If they try to block O’s plans, they will be obstructionists. Because things are going downhill quickly, the accusation will be they are responsible because they didn’t give O’s plans an opportunity.

If they give O what he wants, they will be blamed by everyone for not stopping the mess we will be in.


9 posted on 11/11/2012 2:43:47 AM PST by ican'tbelieveit (School is prison for children who have commited the crime of being born. (attr: St_Thomas_Aquinas))
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To: Olog-hai

“That’s because you know what will come of it. The socialist elites live in la-la land and really don’t know. Some of them were truly baffled by what happened in Benghazi (but others knew exactly what would happen and just acted stupid).”

They’ll still blame Republicans. Or ATM’s.


10 posted on 11/11/2012 2:44:06 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ari-freedom
Like Boehner and Mitchel aren't going to give the Democrats everything they want!

They will huff and puff for the GOP voters, but in the end the Democrats will get what they want, the GOP leadership doesn't want to be considered 'mean'.

11 posted on 11/11/2012 2:46:12 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Kaslin

Pretty much what Rush was saying last week.


12 posted on 11/11/2012 2:47:18 AM PST by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks like Right-Wing extremism.)
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To: Kaslin

It’s just a ridiculous idea. The Democrats would drive us as far into debt as humanly possible and then institute a 75% income tax and 50% VAT tax. Everyone would “learn their lesson” but the entire economy and our standard of living would be destroyed forever. It’s not even funny to joke about giving the Democrats everything they want.


13 posted on 11/11/2012 2:47:26 AM PST by JediJones (Newt Gingrich warned us that the "King of Bain" was unelectable. Did you listen?)
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To: Kaslin

Let’s make a deal. Bet the farm. Give them their budget deal if they give us the truth about Benghazi. They stonewall, we stonewall. Draw a line, stand firm. Even drag Romney back out and question him about what he knows and why he really went silent about it. At least we’ll gain some political ammunition to counter their crap.

Benghazi is the soft spot. Rip it open come what may.


14 posted on 11/11/2012 2:47:36 AM PST by haffast
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To: Kaslin

We dont have a Republican congress, we have a Republican house. The senate is, and has been since jan’07, when all our current economic woes began, dim-0.


15 posted on 11/11/2012 2:47:49 AM PST by weezel
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To: JediJones

People do not want anything cut. They want all the bailouts to come. They want the Fed to keep printing money. They do not believe we of gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff. They think we can patch it over, that we can somehow come up with a magic solution. You cannot have a budgetary solution if you do not change what the role of government should be. As long as you think we have to please the world and run this welfare state, all we will argue about is who will get the loot. “

Ron Paul


16 posted on 11/11/2012 2:51:12 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Kaslin
bookmarking here Kaslin. We're heading toward it anyway, (imho). Sometimes, and I think this is what the author intended, one person or all the people have to loose a great battle to win the war. We are now embroiled in a great war, a war where Conservatives are losing due to lack of common sense from and by half of our people. To turn things around, one must continue to fight, but tactics must change, is what I perceive the author to be saying.
17 posted on 11/11/2012 2:51:44 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Kaslin
How sweet the thought but we all know that the electorate's remedy for failed socialism is not conservative reform but more socialism.


18 posted on 11/11/2012 2:56:19 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Kaslin
I agree.

Without Allende, there would have been no Pinochet.

We cannot afford to go back and forth with these idiot Commies who are burying us with incrementalism. Let's bring it all down, go Galt.
Our once proud cities have already mostly been destroyed despite our desperat fighting, time to fan the flames and wait for the reconstruction after it's over.


19 posted on 11/11/2012 3:02:40 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: Kaslin

desperat = desperate

iPad!


20 posted on 11/11/2012 3:04:47 AM PST by Bon mots (Abu Ghraib: 47 Times on the front page of the NY Times | Benghazi: 2 Times)
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To: nathanbedford
Since we are not shooting (we are not shooting too much at each other for the moment) at one another yet, what do you think our options are? Do we heat it up by letting them have their way or do we heat it up by attacking, either way (imho) it is going to heat up. Attacking will gain us the blame. I'm looking for a way for Conservatives to not be blamed for the coming crash. Is there a way? Or am I missing something?
21 posted on 11/11/2012 3:07:10 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Is there a way? Or am I missing something?

There is a way and it's going to be painful. Every person who can qualify for any freebie needs to go and grab it. Entitlements, the pablum of the Utopian liberal masses, are there for everyone. Conservatives have been opposed to them in principal and have not taken advantage of them out of pride. If everyone were to partake we could collapse the system without blame.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 3:16:43 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Kaslin

This is insane. Don’t give them anything. If the American people want what the dems have to offer, they would have given them the House of Representatives. They did NOT. On the contrary, Obama spoke like a Republican—balanced budgets, reducing the deficit, fiscal responsibility. And the American people left the adult party in control of the House.

Unless and until the dems get control of the House by election, they should not be handed it by traitorous, stupid, angry Republicans throwing a tantrum because their guy was not elected president. The fate of millions is at stake, not making a political point.


23 posted on 11/11/2012 3:23:02 AM PST by nonsporting
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To: liberalh8ter
FRiend while what you say is true, I still have my pride. I want to keep my pride. Looking for another way, FRiend. May not find another way. And yes there will be pain no matter the course. We lost this battle. Would like to win this war though.
24 posted on 11/11/2012 3:23:42 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Kaslin

This strategy might work if the Fed were shackled. But as long as it can print money to fund obama’s programs, the pain will be delayed.


25 posted on 11/11/2012 3:26:40 AM PST by gotribe
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To: nonsporting
This is insane.

No disagreement with you, and war is always insane. We did lose this battle though. What do Conservatives do to win the war? Remember President Hoover? or should that question mark be an exclamation point, and a battle cry.

26 posted on 11/11/2012 3:27:36 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals
I completely agree however, it's where we're going, only my suggestions takes us there, rapidly. Conservatives could take the money, squirrel it away and use it to rebuild the economy. Think of it as safe-holding the Republic's seed money.

The only way to prove to liberals their methodology is wrong is to make them suffer the consequences of it.

27 posted on 11/11/2012 3:29:30 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: Kaslin

Not a bad idea if the entire country were Democrats. But unfortunately the good folks who are conservative would suffer from Dem foolhardiness and the entire nation would go into an unrecoverable tailspin. I do not mind the idea of liberals choking on their own swill but not when conservatives will suffer the collateral damage.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 3:29:43 AM PST by chuckee
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To: Kaslin

Actually, to some extent I do.

Republicans shouldn’t leave positions of power. They shouldn’t allow changes that would expand Dems control over people’s minds, votes, etc. But as far as all these economic things, intrusive laws, energy, taxes, etc, I say let them do it. They have a “mandate”, the MSM says so.

If we let this country go to hell the slow way, people will get used to it (the new normal) and $7 a gallon gas will not be so strange. Faster is better - let them be shellshocked at the plans the dear leader has for their lives.

Will Smith, huge O supporter was shocked when he did a French interview and they told him they wanted 70% taxes in France. Guess Willie doesn’t read enough to know what the leftist masses have in store for evil rich folk- I say tax all these celebs at 70% and we can watch them squirm because they will NEVER admit in public their leader is a disaster. Tomorrow. It would be so sweet.


29 posted on 11/11/2012 3:30:14 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: liberalh8ter
make them suffer the consequences of it

Not total disagreement, and the truth is liberals and Conservatives are going to suffer no matter which way it all goes. That is a given, and will probably become worse. To crash or not to crash? Just one of the questions.

30 posted on 11/11/2012 3:33:47 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Kaslin
Sort of like making your 12-year old smoke a whole pack of cigarettes the first time you catch him smoking.
31 posted on 11/11/2012 3:38:20 AM PST by Oratam
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To: listenhillary

“They do not believe we of gone off the cliff or are close to going off the cliff.”

Having read numerous leftist comments and websites over the years, and a lot more recently, I can tell you this is the crux.

The average Democrat simply believes there is so much money held by rich folk and companies it will NEVER run out. (Amazing, when you think how they believe our oxygen is practically gone and the damage a single SUV can do to the earth).

When you press them, they say, Ridiculous, there is plenty of money. The capitalists/bosses/government/rich people are just being selfish and lying, nothing is going to happen. They have so much money, they can pay all that Obamacare pensions taxes etc and it’s all there and the right wing crazies who get all their idiotic news from Malkin and Fox and Hannity will see the world won’t end tomorrow.

They really believe this, but as they talk, you can see they truly don’t understand what is necessary to run a business. My favorite recent comment - “The bosses are just selfish - giving healthcare shouldn’t cost a business more than an extra 5%”


32 posted on 11/11/2012 3:40:41 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I’ve never applied for food stamps or an obamaphone out of pride. But this is what they expect of me, this, I gather, is how I should live.

Obama is telling Mexicans to come to the US and get food stamps. Maybe learning from his new morality is what this country needs. This is what they want me to be.

Starve the beast. Take what they keep telling you they want you to have, give nothing back except what God asks from you.


33 posted on 11/11/2012 3:45:54 AM PST by I still care (I miss my friends, bagels, and the NYC skyline - but not the taxes. I love the South.)
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To: Kaslin

I agree with it. In the meantime do away with the EITC. Do away with energy , housing and free phone assistance. Raise the standards for food stamps an SSI. Make the playing field even again.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 3:50:10 AM PST by pnut22
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To: liberalh8ter

What if instead every person (instead of every person who qualifies) apply. Imagine what could happen if say 60 - 70 million applications came flooding in for various entitlements. What if we all “lost” our SS cards and need a replacement? All at the same time.

I’m not qualified for an EBT card, but I can go stand in line and let whoever you need to talk to explain to me that I’m not qualified. Would such an effort seriously gum up their system?

Just because you apply for something doesn’t mean you have to accept it.


35 posted on 11/11/2012 3:58:59 AM PST by paint_your_wagon
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To: Kaslin

If we give them amnesty, America is finished permanently.


36 posted on 11/11/2012 4:01:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

The voters said Tuesday they believe freedom is anachronistic.. that it`s time for Amerika to adopt “cradle-to-grave” coverage for every phase of our lives. The electorate, though feeling the hit from failed statist economic policies, said, “give us more socialism.”

So, with much of the article I agree. Give the people the stagnation and national decline they apparently are willing to accept. Instead of the freedom to forge their own way with a “sky`s the limit” mentality, Americans now readily accept the shackles of authoritarian rule... so long as they get a free bowl of rice.

So give them Obama`s taxation agenda and let the feel the brunt of it. All of it. They sorely need a hard hit upside the head from time to time, and this is one of those times.


37 posted on 11/11/2012 4:01:57 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Amen, FRiend!
38 posted on 11/11/2012 4:05:00 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: I still care
Truly, if we're to change what's happening it has to come from us.
39 posted on 11/11/2012 4:05:58 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: paint_your_wagon
Indeed. While you're gumming up the system, one less person is receiving freebies. Of course, I still advocate for collapse. What else can you do when our pResident is running TV commercials in Mexico telling them to come over and get food stamps!
40 posted on 11/11/2012 4:08:01 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: knarf

Well: Look at it this way.

They are going to take pretty much what they want anyway.

Do you really thing Boehner and Mitch McConnell are going to stop them?

If you do I have a bridge for sale-—cheap.

Boehner has already sold out.This lame duck session is goin to be a SOB. Pehaps if Republicans are smart enough to get new leadership for the next Congress it might get somewhat better.


41 posted on 11/11/2012 4:20:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Kaslin
This is the most stupid strategy I could ever imagine. The US electorate gave Obama every thing he wanted four years ago. He got a majority in the house and a veto proof senate. He chose to squander that mandate by wasting it on Obamacare. The Tea Party stopped that mandate by obliterating the house Democrats two years later.

Now we're just supposed to roll over, play dead, and give Obama his will again? No way!

42 posted on 11/11/2012 4:21:41 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: cripplecreek

“If we give them amnesty, America is finished permanently”

Quite a quandary we face, no?

1. Refuse to support amnesty, the hispanics support dems by 4-1.

2. Support amnesty, and the resultant new hispanic voters (along with the current ones) will support dems by 4-1.

Immigration should`ve been seriously handled in the 1980s before the cancer metastasized to its present state. It`s inoperable now.

Amerika is finished as a 50-state union. The only chance for a future is an amicable separation along the lines delineated between “red” and “blue” states. Some population shifts will need to occur to create some form of contiguous linking. among the “red” regions.

Other than that, we`re screwed.


43 posted on 11/11/2012 4:21:41 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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To: Venturer
I'd expect a straight man to put up a fight before being gang raped in prison ...

.....

Unless maybe he ain't straight

???

44 posted on 11/11/2012 4:22:43 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Kaslin

I agree they should give just enough votes that the democrats have to vote unanimously to raise the taxes. I would be very vocal about it not being the fix all that the dems claim it will be. At the same time I would agree to raise the debt ceiling if and only if they do away with baseline budgeting. No more automatic raises simply by not passing a budget. Obama has been very good at leaving things until they are at the crisis point. They need to get out ahead of him .


45 posted on 11/11/2012 4:23:01 AM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: Kaslin

Mr Giles, Sir:
I respectfully submit things don’t work that way. This last election proves first of all that Mainlineing Socialist Media (MSM)control the country. Opponents to socialist government intrusion and expansion will be portrayed as obstructionists no matter what they do and if they capitulate they will still be denegrated. Plus those expanded programs will be that much harder to eliminate once in place and their disillusioned supporters no longer supporting them.

In short Mr.Giles that’s a dumb idea.


46 posted on 11/11/2012 4:31:41 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("Vengence is mine".....Thus sayeth the Lord.)
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To: Kaslin
If you give the Liberals 4 years of what they want this country wont be worth living in, nor will there be anything left to salvage.

Regarding the legalization of drugs, why bother? The most destructive, addictive drug - alcohol - is already legal, so drink up until you can't stand up, beat your wife & kids, then go for a nice drive & run head on into oncoming traffic.

Doug Giles is a moron. I suggest he try his ideas out at home by giving his pre-school children the keys to the gun & liquor cabinet & see how that works out.

47 posted on 11/11/2012 4:33:46 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: knarf

I resent your accusation.And I wholeheartedly resent the way you put it.


48 posted on 11/11/2012 4:34:01 AM PST by Venturer
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To: ScottinVA

We aren’t as finished as you think. The GOP holds all 3 branches of government in 24 states. The democrats hold all 3 in 14. Our challenge is to regain state power over our own self determination.


49 posted on 11/11/2012 4:37:11 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Kaslin

“I am not sure if I agree with this.”

It may not matter as it might be coming anyway.

They came up with a favorable vote count, a large number of “brilliant”, “intellectual” Progressives went to the polls and voted, and the press has indoctrinated a large part of the population into being “caring”, “loving” Socialists who hate “the rich” and “greed”.

What strange times these are.

IMHO


50 posted on 11/11/2012 4:39:21 AM PST by ripley
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