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Advice to California's GOP: Leave — or better yet, change
Los Angeles Times ^ | November 12, 2012 | by Steve Lopez

Posted on 11/11/2012 9:26:23 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Memo to the California GOP:

Rough couple of weeks, huh?

What could be worse? I'll tell you what. In the state Legislature, Democrats won supermajorities in both houses. Do you know what that means? It's like handing your teenager a credit card, a checkbook and the car keys so he can drive to an all-night orgy.

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To: Bigjimslade
"If you do choose to leave, please go to a true battleground state."

Yes an influx of of a couple hundred thousand Voting Conservatives into Ohio could change us back to Red.

22 posted on 11/11/2012 9:58:34 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: fifedom

In other words, stop grossing and go to the orgy with your teenager.


23 posted on 11/11/2012 10:01:33 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The “Free S**t Army” wants Republicans to get in a bidding war with democrats to see who will promise the most free stuff.


24 posted on 11/11/2012 10:01:56 AM PST by Iron Munro ("Strange how paranoia can link up with reality now and then." -- Philip K. Dick)
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To: Bigjimslade
If you do choose to leave, please go to a true battleground state.

Going to a red state will increase the population of that state in the census, giving that state more weight in the electoral college.

25 posted on 11/11/2012 10:02:28 AM PST by arista
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To: Astronaut
We might restore the Republic out of the ruins of the big government nanny state, but forget about elections or democracy. We are finished.

You make excellent points. The country is finished and we'll never see anything like it again in our lifetimes. To paraphrase Reagan, we are the last best hope for freedom in the world. When the U.S. is done, where do you go? As for a Republic rising out of the bankrupted nanny state...forget it. It took the likes of Washington, Madison, Jefferson , Franklin and Adams to create this one, and I don't see any of their kind on the political horizon.

Sorry to be so depressing but I've been really down since Tues, and I plan on doing what the rest of the country obviously does, sit back, watch reality TV, refuse to be informed and just vote for whoever promises the most "free stuff".

26 posted on 11/11/2012 10:07:34 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: YankeeReb

Yes, it makes me indescribably sad. Rank and file conservatives had the heart to win, but we were failed by our so-called leaders. Now those leaders cant wait to make a deal with Obamugabe on taxes, immigration, etc... Sellouts all.

I plan to keep my head down, make as much money as I can, take care of myself and those I love, and wait for the welfare checks to stop. Only then can we think about restoring a once great country.


27 posted on 11/11/2012 10:19:19 AM PST by Astronaut
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To: YankeeReb; Astronaut

I’d love to say that you’re both wrong but you are only too right. My parents escaped from the Communists only to be here again. Everything you both said is true, imo.

They already came for our world’s finest healthcare and are in the process of destroying that. I fought it as hard as I possibly could, to no avail as Comrade Giffords threw her district under the bus.

I feel like one of the last people standing/working in my town and I’m not exaggerating. Half of this the town is on welfare and/or meth/crack. After, they seize my 401K and the last American jobs in my company are done, I too am turning into a looter parasite. (ok, probably not really but at least going to minimal work, just enough for the mortgage and pets)

I’ve never collected one dime of anything, am penalized for not having offspring (especially the anchor baby kind that attend all the schools around here), and have been paying in (aka taxed in their Ponzi schemes) for umpteen years. I’m over being their slave while the rest of the moochers sit around with their greedy paws out for more of our money.


28 posted on 11/11/2012 10:20:09 AM PST by Borax Queen
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To: Liberty4California

Do it if it makes sense for Return On Investment (ROI). If not, don’t do it.


29 posted on 11/11/2012 10:20:42 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Notice how it is always about how the GOP “marches to the
right”? By definition we don’t march, we stay put. Let’s be
be clear. It is the liberals who are willing to drive the car down
Hwy 1 around Big Sur at 90mph, midnight, with the lights off.

The ideal GOPer as described in the article now owns a home
in California. His name is Mitt Romney. The only problem is
that newspapers like the LA Times can never be honest enough
to tell the truth about people like Romney when the choice is
between Romney and a real moonbat lib.


30 posted on 11/11/2012 10:21:07 AM PST by Sivad (Nor Cal Red Turf)
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To: tennmountainman

sure, so then the cartels can more easily enter the rest of the country?


31 posted on 11/11/2012 10:38:35 AM PST by RitchieAprile (the obsteperous gentleman..)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Advice to California, go ahead and mint your own money and you’ll find out right quick what you’re worth sovereign. When the shtf, Cali won’t be anyone’s idea of paradise...


32 posted on 11/11/2012 10:39:39 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Own It.)
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To: Vaduz

Hey, GOP. Be the taxman for the Democrats. That’s the ticket!

Oldplayer


33 posted on 11/11/2012 10:44:30 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Here’s a plan for California conservatives: Quit the GOP, re-register as Democrats, and make common cause with the State’s conservative Dems.

There are really 3 political parties in California; The Liberal Democrat/RINO Party, the conservative Democrat Party, and the tiny remnant of the GOP. A look at the map proves this.

Democrats now have a super majority in the legislature. That means that a map of Senate and Assembly districts is mostly blue. However, maps of the returns for the propositions aren’t mostly blue; they’re mostly red. The State’s liberal/RINO heartland is concentrated along coast. The eastern part of the State, while Democrat, is far more conservative. Prop 30 won along the coast while Prop 32 won the interior.

So why jump ship? The RINOs in the State GOP hate conservatives. They loath the TEA Party more than Democrats do. They would rather lose an election than see a conservative win and they have been sabotaging conservatives in this State for years. So if we can’t make a difference in the CA-GOP, then why not try to help conservative Democrats? The maps show that they’re out there, but they aren’t a majority of their party; the LA and San Francisco machines run right over them. Conservatives who’ve been exiled from the State GOP could make up the difference.

Why not rot the Democrats’ super majority from the inside out? All it would take are a few more pro-gun, pro-life, anti-tax, free-market, conservative Dems to gum up the works in Sacramento. They exist, but they need a little help.


34 posted on 11/11/2012 10:47:58 AM PST by Redcloak ("...and that, my liege, is how we know the Earth to be banana shaped.")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Memo to the California GOP:

The next meeting of the CA Republican Party will be in the back of an old VW Beetle, parked in the Mohave. The meeting time will be when the 2 of you gets there!! /s

35 posted on 11/11/2012 11:15:12 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (More Republicans stayed home then the margin of victory of O's Win...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Think about it, GOP. You've marched so far to the right, you practically make your party's conservative icon look like a card-carrying liberal.

I wish this guy had said this at the outset, it would've saved me the time of reading his piece of crap article.

Anyone who cannot see that it isn't the GOP that has moved has his head too far up his arse.

36 posted on 11/11/2012 11:46:11 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Astronaut
Idiot Sean Hannity and his “just wait till 2016” crap makes me laugh.

You're a great American...yukyuk...

His schtick is way dead.

Hannity is like listening to a political radio Disney...Him having his own show, proves political Pollyanna's abound.

Rush isn't much better, as he got too fat, too rich, too disconnected from real life.

Bet the rent, free America and smaller less controlling, less intrusive government will not be coming back by traditional means.

37 posted on 11/11/2012 11:51:20 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"Your first option is to cut and run. Frankly, I regularly hear from Republicans who so despise California and everything it stands for, I'm surprised they keep subjecting themselves to so much misery. Wouldn't it be better to sell everything, pack up the station wagon and move to Georgia or Kentucky? They think, act and vote red in those states, and they probably hate California at least as much as you do."

If it were me, I'd pick this option. Although, contrary to the author's assumption, I don't "hate". That's the province of most whacked out liberals I've run into, no matter how much they try to hide it. But, I am learning to, compliments of people like this author.

Leave, and let these people roll around in the muck they've created.

38 posted on 11/11/2012 11:53:27 AM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: Bigjimslade

Nonono go to Blue state. Too much chance republicans from Kali are Arnold types.


39 posted on 11/11/2012 11:58:51 AM PST by Kozak (The means of defence again.t foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home JM)
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To: Astronaut
You are unfortunately correct. Our country is irretrievably in the dependency stage of democracy. The takers are in control and will always vote for more stuff. They will do it all the way to the end which will come when the US can no longer get away with printing or borrowing more money. Some form of tyranny will follow. It is our inescapable fate. We are not the first democracy to go this route.
40 posted on 11/11/2012 12:11:12 PM PST by gleneagle
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