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States petition to secede from union
CBS News ^ | Nov 12th, 2012

Posted on 11/12/2012 2:41:49 PM PST by TaraP

They don't want to take their country back. They just want to leave it behind.

As the dust settles in the wake of President Obama's decisive reelection last Tuesday, the White House petition website has been flooded by a series of secession requests, with malcontents from New Jersey to North Dakota submitting petitions to allow their states to withdraw from the union.

Most of the petitions submitted thus far have come from solidly conservative states, including most of the Deep South and reliably separatist Texas. But a handful come from the heart of blue America - relatively progressive enclaves like Oregon and New York.

All told, petitions have been filed on behalf of 20 states: Alabama, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oregon, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas.

Many of the petitions invoke the Declaration of Independence's dramatic assertion that "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government."

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1 posted on 11/12/2012 2:41:54 PM PST by TaraP
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To: All

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION= 30,976

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B


2 posted on 11/12/2012 2:43:39 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: TaraP

Texas is at 30,000 so far. (needed 25k in a month, received 30k in 3 days)


3 posted on 11/12/2012 2:43:39 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: Sporke

Where do I sign?


4 posted on 11/12/2012 2:44:34 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: TaraP

Aren’t these petitions from individual groups and not state legislatures? If it was from state legislatures I can see trouble ahead. I think the fed’s will ignore them.


5 posted on 11/12/2012 2:44:34 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: dfwgator

Well now, you get to go to the White House’s web site and put down your name and address!

How cool is THAT?


6 posted on 11/12/2012 2:45:36 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: TaraP

This is a waste of time. Why help Obama weaken America?


7 posted on 11/12/2012 2:46:09 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: SkyDancer

These are individual names...

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B


8 posted on 11/12/2012 2:46:09 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I would love to sign a petition but am genuinely afraid to. I imagine we would end up on the no-fly list and the IRS would be auditing us. Yes, I am afraid of the Obama administration.


9 posted on 11/12/2012 2:47:23 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Sporke

I better hurry up and move there while it’s still part of the US...


10 posted on 11/12/2012 2:47:50 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Democrats are evil. Republicans are stupid.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You and me both, kid.


11 posted on 11/12/2012 2:48:07 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: TaraP

So it’s not the states but organisations that are petitioning.


12 posted on 11/12/2012 2:48:14 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Why have DHS work to assemble personal information of political opponents for Watch Lists when you can email it to Obama wrapped in a bow?


13 posted on 11/12/2012 2:48:34 PM PST by Shadow44
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To: TaraP

I think the reason for the Obama administration buying up billions of rounds of ammunition may be coming a little bit clearer....


14 posted on 11/12/2012 2:48:41 PM PST by GiovannaNicoletta (In the last days, mockers will come with their mocking... (2 Peter 3:3))
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To: ilovesarah2012

HOWEVER!!!! I’m mighty mighty angry....but not dumb. I’m NOT going there and I’m NOT signing a petition.

I have no clue who’s gleaning those names...


15 posted on 11/12/2012 2:49:35 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: TaraP
If my memory serves me correctly, since Texas entered the Union as a Republic in it's own right, I think it does not need permission to secede.

I may be off but that is what is sitting in the back of my mind.

16 posted on 11/12/2012 2:50:06 PM PST by Slyfox
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To: Brad's Gramma

Besides, why the Hell should we ask in the first place?


17 posted on 11/12/2012 2:50:43 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Shadow44

Yep. I won’t even go to that site anymore. Not that they don’t already know who I am, where I live, etc., I’m just not going there.


18 posted on 11/12/2012 2:51:06 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Crucial
This is a waste of time. Why help Obama weaken America?

We've already weaken America when we turned away from God.

19 posted on 11/12/2012 2:51:29 PM PST by dragonblustar (Allah Ain't So Akbar!)
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To: SkyDancer

Interesting Video by Ron Paul..

Ron Paul About The Secession Of Texas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FD11BcCMdg


20 posted on 11/12/2012 2:52:04 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

True...I wonder how many states he will try and fight this?

18 already.....


21 posted on 11/12/2012 2:54:34 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: TaraP

I wonder if my county can secede from the rest of Florida? That alone would work.


22 posted on 11/12/2012 2:55:05 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Who we elect is not as important as who they bring in with them.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

“Well now, you get to go to the White House’s web site and put down your name and address!

How cool is THAT?”

Cooler than a witch in a broom factory. Do they ask if you own a firearm?


23 posted on 11/12/2012 2:55:41 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The goal is to equalize outcomes based on race without regard for performance or merit.)
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To: TaraP

I agree with a lot of things that Ron Paul spoke of during the campaign. There are like 15 states (organisations) that are petitioning for secession from the union but not the states themselves. I’m waiting for the state legislatures to band together with like states to leave the union.


24 posted on 11/12/2012 2:56:15 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral)
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To: TaraP
malcontents

I like that word better than the anarchists do. Or Occupy Wall St for that matter. Are they still alive? Oh, that's right, they and the muslim brotherhood are in the White House with Trumpka and Hoffa.

Scarey stuff...

5.56mm

25 posted on 11/12/2012 2:56:18 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I have no clue...I’ve not been there.

(I like your analogy.)


26 posted on 11/12/2012 2:56:36 PM PST by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: TaraP

Unless the State Legislatures do something, and this condition is something everyone calling themselves a Conservative should know, this means nothing and makes Conservatives look like the loons the media portrays them to be....


27 posted on 11/12/2012 2:57:37 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: TaraP

This is just stupid!

If a state wants to succeed, they just do it! They don’t go on to a website and do a silly petition.

IF... A petition is to be directed anywhere, it needs to be to state legislators and governors!!


28 posted on 11/12/2012 3:00:14 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: TaraP

This may not be as hard as it would have been four years ago.. They don’t like us anymore than we like them.. Where do I sign?.. Git it on.. :)


29 posted on 11/12/2012 3:00:59 PM PST by carlo3b (Less Government, more Fiber..)
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To: TaraP

This is NOT states petitioning. The White House has a site where anyone at all can start a petition, and Obama has pledged to look at the ones that get a certain number of signatures.

So I could put up a petition to require that all White House meals be vegan, and if lots and lots of people sign on, Obama looks at it.

These are citizens starting their own petitions and they are not binding on the states.


30 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:04 PM PST by DBrow
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To: montanajoe

Texas GOP official: state should secede from ‘maggots’ who reelected Obama..

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/10/texas-gop-official-state-should-secede-from-maggots-who-reelected-obama/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed28The+Raw+Story)


31 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:04 PM PST by TaraP (On Christ the Solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

You can still fly, just on Ron Brown Airline.


32 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:24 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: TaraP

It’s beginning. About damn time.


33 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:24 PM PST by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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To: montanajoe

I think the petitions send the right message to the WH.


34 posted on 11/12/2012 3:02:34 PM PST by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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To: Crucial

I guess you would think the Colonies protesting/rebelling weakened Great Britain too, eh?


35 posted on 11/12/2012 3:03:09 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: dfwgator

Besides, why the Hell should we ask in the first place?
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Exactly.
Just do something rebellious like raise your Speed Limit to 95 and wait for the Fed to say you can’t or they will withhold your funds.
Say OK, and withhold the states funds to the Fed, recall your National Guard, Senators, Congressman (though a lot of states might want to leave the bloodsuckers and leeches where they are).

Then see who blinks first...when one appears to be ‘ahead’, others will follow so you can expect the Fed to act swiftly.


36 posted on 11/12/2012 3:03:38 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 "Hope in one hand and $hiite in the other and see which fills up first".)
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To: firebasecody
“I think the petitions send the right message to the WH.”

If the message is all Conservatives are loons and we don't ever want to win a Presidential election again you may be right..

37 posted on 11/12/2012 3:06:13 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: TaraP

” As the dust settles in the wake of President Obama’s decisive reelection last Tuesday, the White House petition website has been flooded by a series of secession requests, with malcontents from New Jersey to North Dakota submitting petitions to allow their states to withdraw from the union.”

“decisive reelection”, “malcontents”. No, no bias here.


38 posted on 11/12/2012 3:08:45 PM PST by Castigar
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To: Osage Orange

I think I’ll just side with Lincoln on this one.


39 posted on 11/12/2012 3:09:19 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: Crucial

Thank you. Seems as if these petitioners don’t care at all about the bloody or final sacrifices of our U.S. military Veterans, to protect our American freedoms and way of life, our unity, and our willingness to stand against the tyrants who threaten them. So says the Declaration of Independence, so is denied by these petitioners.


40 posted on 11/12/2012 3:14:25 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine .)
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To: SkyDancer

If it was from state legislatures I would see cause for hope.


41 posted on 11/12/2012 3:14:59 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Brad's Gramma

http://www.johnspeedie.com/healy/goldberg.wav


42 posted on 11/12/2012 3:15:57 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Crucial
This is a waste of time. Why help Obama weaken America?

I guess I will just post what you said again......And ask, what type of opposition are YOU doing?

Anything? Writing letters? Yeah that's helped.

43 posted on 11/12/2012 3:16:05 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: Crucial

44 posted on 11/12/2012 3:17:09 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: ilovesarah2012

“I imagine we would end up on the no-fly list and the IRS would be auditing us. Yes, I am afraid of the Obama administration”

So, under what circumstances might you actually take a stand? I’m thinking the disappearance and persecution of a few hundred thousand citizens just might impress a few “undecideds”.


45 posted on 11/12/2012 3:18:28 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Crucial

It may well be a waste of time, but it is now certain that the United States we all thought we had is no longer. We have a thoroughly corrupt system - to include all three branches of the Federal Government with the rot having already consumed most state and local governments, including the courts, and spreading rapidly to the rest.

I would much rather live in a state or group of states that recognizes and honors Natural Law and the freedoms that spring from it.


46 posted on 11/12/2012 3:18:35 PM PST by rashley (Rashley)
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To: Crucial
I think I’ll just side with Lincoln on this one.

You'd be siding with the American Caesar and original statist. Lincoln Fairly Tales are just so much reconstructed history. It sells books and movies.

47 posted on 11/12/2012 3:19:27 PM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: dfwgator

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-withdraw-united-states-america-and-create-its-own-new-government/BmdWCP8B


48 posted on 11/12/2012 3:21:45 PM PST by Sporke (USS Iowa BB-61)
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To: TaraP

Include me in!!

With this stolen election, the rule of law is dead and the Constitution lies in tatters and shreds.

I served in the military (please don’t thank me) to protect and preserve the American way of life - but this isn’t waht I served to protect.

IMO, our only hope to preserve the liberties and Freedoms for which America has stood for 200 years is to divorce the blue states and secede.


49 posted on 11/12/2012 3:23:30 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: TaraP

Include me in!!

With this stolen election, the rule of law is dead and the Constitution lies in tatters and shreds.

I served in the military (please don’t thank me) to protect and preserve the American way of life - but this isn’t waht I served to protect.

IMO, our only hope to preserve the liberties and Freedoms for which America has stood for 200 years is to divorce the blue states and secede.


50 posted on 11/12/2012 3:24:23 PM PST by DustyMoment (Congress - another name for white collar criminals!!)
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