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WE LIVE IN A WORLD GONE MAD (What the heck is happening with those who are defending this country?)
Powerline ^ | 11/13/2012 | John Hindraker

Posted on 11/13/2012 7:40:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind

In the post immediately below, Scott recaps some of the recent developments in the Petraeus scandal. I want to add one or two more, and also elaborate a bit on one of the items that Scott mentioned.

The most significant of the recent bombshells, I think, is the report that Eric Holder knew about the scandal as of late summer, when the FBI contacted his office to get permission to interview Petraeus and Paula Braodwell. Holder apparently claims that he never mentioned this potentially election-derailing news to his boss and good buddy, Barack Obama. I find this claim–that, while many others in Washington knew of the Petraeus investigation, including Congressmen like Eric Kantor, Obama himself was blissfully ignorant until three days after the election–wholly implausible, just as I find implausible the claim that it was sheer coincidence that the scandal didn’t become public until then.

The least significant development, but one of the weirdest, is the replacement of the FBI agent who began the investigation on behalf of the bureau. The agent, whose name apparently has not been disclosed, was removed from the investigation after he “grew obsessed” with it, and specifically with Jill Kelley, to whom he sexted shirtless photos of himself.

Jill Kelley

The story I want to return to is the one involving another general, John Allen, who succeeded Petraeus as the commander of American and allied troops in Afghanistan. As a form of collateral damage, apparently, the FBI has found that General Allen, like the FBI agent, is obsessed with Jill Kelley. She must be quite a woman! Allen can be printed, in most editions, in under 1,500 pages. So what on earth were General Allen and Mrs. Kelley writing so as to fill up 20,000 to 30,000 pages? Poetry? Love notes? The longest military treatise ever? Assume it took General Allen a mere five minutes to either read or write one page–no doubt a low estimate, when it comes to writing–and use the mid-point of 25,000 pages. That would mean that Allen devoted 125,000 minutes to his correspondence with Mrs. Kelley, or 2,083 hours–in other words, a full work year (40 hours times 52 weeks). No wonder we aren’t winning in Afghanistan!



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: affair; benghazi; jillkelley; military; navyseals; resignation; threatmatrix; threatmatrixbenghazi
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1 posted on 11/13/2012 7:40:41 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

wow.. human nature..who’d a thunk.. the difference is, thanks to American’s appetite for this crap, now we hear about it, 24/7.

And isn’t it convenient that all these higher ups are now so completely discredited, that they won’t be believed...and are now busy “putting their lives together” that they can’t testify?

They will all testify in a couple of years, when the whole thing is forgotten and the press has moved on.


2 posted on 11/13/2012 7:44:26 AM PST by Chuzzlewit
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To: SeekAndFind

I think someone in this adminisration is releasing this information to the media to bring the military hierarchy down ...


3 posted on 11/13/2012 7:44:41 AM PST by Ken522
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I think what we are witnessing is the simultaneous suicide ad murder of a once great nation by awful, awful people.

And there isn’t going to be any stopping it.


4 posted on 11/13/2012 7:44:57 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

We’re so screwed........


5 posted on 11/13/2012 7:46:26 AM PST by basil (Second Amendment Sisters.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think part of the problem with our military is this long protracted nation building BS. Troops are going for multiple tours and families are being torn apart. They are away from their families over and over and sit in a backwards miserable land. Structure in all forms is breaking down.


6 posted on 11/13/2012 7:46:37 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sure seems as though Kelley has been playing the role of femme fatale to a number of men in positions of authority. Maybe she’s just cursed with a come-hither projection, or maybe she really enjoys the attention.

Just an observation, not a condemnation.


7 posted on 11/13/2012 7:47:03 AM PST by jagusafr (the American Trinity (Liberty, In G0D We Trust, E Pluribus Unum))
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To: SeekAndFind
I won't be surprised if all the JCS aren't replaced by Jan 2013.

5.56mm

8 posted on 11/13/2012 7:47:22 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Ken522

Is there not a part of the Alinsky plan to discredit and dismantle the military?


9 posted on 11/13/2012 7:48:22 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Ken522

“I think someone in this adminisration is releasing this information to the media to bring the military hierarchy down ...”

I think you’re right, since zero is considering the appointment of J.F.Kerry to the Sec of Defense position. Very troubling.


10 posted on 11/13/2012 7:48:36 AM PST by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: Chuzzlewit
But, Barney Frank who openly lived with another man while in government gets a liberal pass. I am sick of MSM being the National Enquirer. Well, I guess the progression is inevitable when the MSM has becme a bunch of leftist liberal hypocrites.
11 posted on 11/13/2012 7:48:36 AM PST by Bitsy
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we’re finally realising that everyone is pretty much the same, even those we think should be above certain behaviors.


12 posted on 11/13/2012 7:48:49 AM PST by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SeekAndFind
So what on earth were General Allen and Mrs. Kelley writing so as to fill up 20,000 to 30,000 pages?

Er...let me guess. Something other than romance?

13 posted on 11/13/2012 7:49:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: annieokie; penelopesire; maggief; Protect the Bill of Rights; thouworm; SE Mom; Nachum; onyx; ...
More stinky socks.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, please advise.


Benghazi Index

14 posted on 11/13/2012 7:49:44 AM PST by MestaMachine (TREASON!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

We have a degraded culture. Affairs, sex and perversion have always occurred with people of power, but at least everyone paid respect to the idea of moral behavior.

Now, respect for propriety hasn’t completely disappeared, but it has obviously declined. Furthermore, sex, entertainment and pleasure-is everywhere in our society. Temptation is much greater, so odds are, more people will be caught by it.


15 posted on 11/13/2012 7:49:44 AM PST by PGR88
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t want to paint with a broad brush here, but the idea that ‘leaders’, elected or unelected, are somehow the cream of the crop is just fantasy. Sometimes it’s not that the cream that rises to the top, but that s**t floats.


16 posted on 11/13/2012 7:50:01 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: SeekAndFind
I guess the thing I never realized is that Holder has run the FBI for 4 years. In four years, you can gather material on virtually every enemy that can possibly arise. They hold the strings on every player in this government except possibly the most squeaky clean. Regardless of what goes down, none of it will ever touch Obama. This is now Venezuela.
17 posted on 11/13/2012 7:50:50 AM PST by throwback (The object of opening the mind, is as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Democrats saved this juicy little story until after the election so that CNN could salivate over sex instead of asking questions about Benghazi that need to be asked.

As far as I’m concerned, the General (and the other one for that matter) can or could screw anyone they want with no more repercussions than Bill Clinton’s blow jobs, or the buggering Obama’s CINC directives now condones.


18 posted on 11/13/2012 7:51:03 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: chris37

“Well, I think what we are witnessing is the simultaneous suicide ad murder of a once great nation by awful, awful people.

And there isn’t going to be any stopping it.”

Agreed. We had our chance, but it wasn’t “pure” enough. So, now we can only watch helplessly as the country is dismantled and remade to Marx’ liking.


19 posted on 11/13/2012 7:51:25 AM PST by brownsfan (It's over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The only way to fix this whole mess is to attack Iran.


20 posted on 11/13/2012 7:52:50 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (There goes the dominoes...)
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To: SeekAndFind
To quote Van Jones, "TOP DOWN, BOTTOM UP, INSIDE OUT, CHAOS."
21 posted on 11/13/2012 7:53:59 AM PST by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone watch the show ARMY WIVES? people have affairs.. They’ve had then since the beginning of time. I am not saying it’s right, but why is everyone shocked?

By then way, I am surprised the Clinton Analogy isn’t talked about more.


22 posted on 11/13/2012 7:55:56 AM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: SeekAndFind

Does anyone watch the show ARMY WIVES? people have affairs.. They’ve had then since the beginning of time. I am not saying it’s right, but why is everyone shocked?

By then way, I am surprised the Clinton Analogy isn’t talked about more.


23 posted on 11/13/2012 7:55:58 AM PST by Hildy (hen the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

RE: The only way to fix this whole mess is to attack Iran.

Beware the Iranian Femme Fatale posing as an American Journalist...


24 posted on 11/13/2012 7:56:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

in reply to the title...all branches of government have become an arm of the left wing...that means loyalty to the left wing of the Democrat party first before loyalty to the USA or its citizens. Party firs comrads.


25 posted on 11/13/2012 7:56:50 AM PST by dalebert
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe we are witnessing the beginnings of a culture decaying from within because it has replaced the Judeo-Christian worldview with secular humanism.

Let’s look at what America has become and what is coming soon. First, we have killed off ONE-SEVENTH of our population! And we not only acknowledge it but call it a constitutional right. And one of our major political parties is completely beholden to it.

Second, we can no longer say that it is only courts that have redefined marriage. Several legislatures-elected representatives of the people-have done so, with more to follow. The ultimate effect will be destruction of the institution of marriage, the most necessary institution to keep civilization from collapsing. Research the statistics on what happens to children born in a 2 parent nuclear family versus a single mother.

Our current rate of illegitimate births is in excess of 40% and trending upwards. Also, our overall birth rate is declining which is an indicator of a country in decline. So, we have an even greater percentage of children being born outside the family, with the resultant increase in criminal behavior, sexual promiscuity and other social pathologies, and decrease in educational achievement and professional success.

The behavior of Petreaus et al is merely in line with what the culture of America has become.

Now that I’ve livened up everyone’s day, go take on the world.


26 posted on 11/13/2012 7:56:50 AM PST by almcbean
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To: SeekAndFind
The least significant development, but one of the weirdest, is the replacement of the FBI agent who began the investigation on behalf of the bureau. The agent, whose name apparently has not been disclosed, was removed from the investigation after he “grew obsessed” with it, and specifically with Jill Kelley, to whom he sexted shirtless photos of himself.

This is getting more interesting every day.

27 posted on 11/13/2012 7:56:53 AM PST by TruthWillWin (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Ken522

“I think someone in this adminisration is releasing this information to the media to bring the military hierarchy down ...”

I agree. Cleaning house, and revenge. A coup.Or, as oblahblah would say, “A coupe.”


28 posted on 11/13/2012 7:57:20 AM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When will guys like this learn? If you don’t want the problems, then keep yourself zipped up.


29 posted on 11/13/2012 7:58:02 AM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: TruthWillWin

RE: This is getting more interesting every day.

It would be even MORE interesting if secrets were leaked as a result of a GAY relationship. Now that would be DADT also (DO ASK DO TELL ).


30 posted on 11/13/2012 7:58:47 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: Ken522
I think someone in this adminisration is releasing this information to the media to bring the military hierarchy down ...

My thoughts exactly. This is looking like a purge.

31 posted on 11/13/2012 7:58:53 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmmmmm Wasn’t it a sex scandal that put Obama in the U.S. Senate?

Obama knows how to use scandals against his enemies while keeping his own scandal on the “Down Low:.


32 posted on 11/13/2012 7:59:19 AM PST by Venturer
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To: SeekAndFind
We've become so "open-minded".....
....our brains are (finally) falling out.

jmho....

33 posted on 11/13/2012 8:02:42 AM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

“Coupe DE VILle”


34 posted on 11/13/2012 8:05:51 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: Ken522

The Administration is successful in their ‘fundamental transformation’ of the US. With all the corruption, who would consider this a great nation worthy of sacrifice? How fast this has all changed! I do not recognize this as the nation where I grew up. Shoulda took those ‘red baiting’ alarms more seriously. You can never go back.


35 posted on 11/13/2012 8:06:06 AM PST by griswold3 (Big Government does not tolerate rivals.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Great and Lovely Idea!
Aint going to happen
Not as long as the MB control the White House, judicial and Military.


36 posted on 11/13/2012 8:08:25 AM PST by himno hero (hadnuff)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t doubt Holder never mentioned it to obama. obama is a puppet and is only told what to do and say. He’s never asked for an oppinion.


37 posted on 11/13/2012 8:09:49 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Remember when you print from email, you get all the downstream crap, including previous responses. Obviously lots of emails, but probably reams and reams of duplication. In an investiagation, they'd have to analyze all of it.

Powerline estimated it would take over a year's worth of time to write 20,000 pages, such that one would have time for nothing else

38 posted on 11/13/2012 8:13:02 AM PST by chiller (Do not consume any NBCNews;MTPTodayNightlyNewsMorningJoeMSNBCBrianWilliams)
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To: SeekAndFind

Our own little Mata Hari. I’m so proud of my country.


39 posted on 11/13/2012 8:17:26 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: chris37
"Well, I think what we are witnessing is the simultaneous suicide ad murder of a once great nation by awful, awful people.

And there isn’t going to be any stopping it."

This should come as no surprise. Obama & the RATS hate the military & Obama is doing his best to dismantle & degrade it.

When we elect a Commander In Chief - who could not even pass a background check, himself, there is temptation to 'follow the leader'.

Think about it. Is their behavior any worse than what Obama has been doing to our country?

Their behavior is about sex - Obama's behavior is about TREASON.

40 posted on 11/13/2012 8:20:41 AM PST by LADY J (You never know how strong you are until being strong is the only choice you have. - Author Unknown)
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To: brownsfan

Since 1998 we’ve settled. We settled for Bush the Elder. We settled for Dole. We settled for Bush the Younger. We settled for McCain. By the time we had settled for Romney it was too late. They had everything in place to steal the election.


41 posted on 11/13/2012 8:21:43 AM PST by Terry Mross (I haven't watched the news since the election. Someone ping me if anything big happens.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Glad General Allen is on top of things over there. Pathetic !


42 posted on 11/13/2012 8:25:02 AM PST by tartar1000
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To: tartar1000

Things may not be as they appear.


43 posted on 11/13/2012 8:26:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Obama: "If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.")
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To: jagusafr
Why not condemn? She looks like a streetwalker, the exact kind that FR is so quick to type "I'd hit it" and "not guilty"--

Cheap, slutty-looking women always get a pass.

44 posted on 11/13/2012 8:27:50 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: SeekAndFind
Stalin's purges featured "show trials".

0bama's purges feature "sex bombshell circuses".

The end result is the same. The patriotic and "unreliable" soldiers are disgraced and removed, the toadies are installed, and absolute power is cemented. Then the gulags start filling.

In a few years we will probably be invading Finland in the winter with brass bands - except in our case it will be Israel...

45 posted on 11/13/2012 8:29:11 AM PST by Gritty (The can no longer can be kicked down the road. We're all out of road, there's only an abyss-Mk Steyn)
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To: SeekAndFind

Having spent some time in the intelligence community, I am reminded of an old saying “Don’t believe everything you see in the funny papers” or words to that effect.


46 posted on 11/13/2012 8:31:06 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: jagusafr

Wasn’t there a similar situation during the civil war with one lady involved with numerous senior officers? Any historians or civil war buffs here?


47 posted on 11/13/2012 8:33:27 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: throwback

Holder’s apparent failure to bring this IMMEDIATELY to the Current Occupant of the Oval Office was not an oversight. The information was getting to the real power broker there, Valerie Jarrett, and was also going out the pipeline to David Axelrod, even though he is not “officially” in the White Hut any longer.

It is as though the Chicago Mob were now holding the White Hut as their own fiefdom.

Obama is now largely a figurehead, useful only as a mouthpiece for the Mob, which is why he has to keep the earpiece in and read what is scrolling past him on the Teleprompter.

When Obama goes off-script, the powers behind figuratively start crapping bricks.

Which are useful later, when broken in two and used as ammunition to launch at anyone making an assault from the outside.


48 posted on 11/13/2012 8:34:21 AM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is the “purge of generals” underway??

That is always in the playbook for those who have dictatorial aspirations, you know. Think Stalin, Castro, Hitler, and many others.

49 posted on 11/13/2012 8:34:49 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Is the “purge of generals” underway??

That is always in the playbook for those who have dictatorial aspirations, you know. Think Stalin, Castro, Hitler, and many others.

50 posted on 11/13/2012 8:34:49 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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