Skip to comments.SanFran Chronicle: If they want to secede, let 'em
Posted on 11/14/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by TheWryFederalist
It's barely been a week since President Obama's re-election, and some people can't believe, truly can't believe, that things didn't go their way.
As of Wednesday morning, 37 states had posted petitions on the White House website to secede from the United States of America. (Some not-so-brilliant citizens of Georgia and South Carolina actually have two different secession postings each, but I'm counting those knuckleheads only once.)
I'm sorry to report that this not-so-illustrious group includes California, where nearly 7,000 citizens have signed a petition quoting the Declaration of Independence and insisting on the right to set up their own government.
This is clearly part of a movement to draft all the states, and Lord knows that there are certainly enough foolish people in each and every state in the union who would be willing to put their name on anything at all. But seeing as this country did fight the most bloody war in its history over the secession of the chattel slavery-holding states, it's sad to see that those are the same states that currently boast the most popular secession petitions.
Louisiana (around 30,000 signatures). Florida (about 24,000). South Carolina (around 28,000). Alabama (nearing the 23,000 mark). And last but never least, Texas, which rates as the state most likely to secede at more than 80,000 signatures.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/If-they-want-to-secede-let-em-4035092.php#ixzz2CEQjDxxO
(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
Seven states have exceeded the petition limits that call for an administration response. Others will join them shortly.
Of course no one believes the statists in the White House would ever say 'go ahead, see you later". It will take a cataclysmic event like a financial collapse to get the ball rolling and for legislatures of states that oppose Obama's socialistic fascism to declare their state's independence.
Bring it on.
I didn't know there were rules for secession already laid out. If Emperor 0bammy gives his go ahead, then is s state then out?
It’s an opening, a crack in the anti-secession cabal.
Is the size of the succession movement a warning?
Actually, being a former leftist, I can say that they very well might be happy to let those states go. Remember, those states are a huge impediment to their plans and if they’re not part of the US, the resistance to their agenda will be much reduced.
Imagine if the California contingent in the House didn’t have to contend with the similar-sized Texas contingent telling them “no” every time they want something.
How would we ever be able to secure that much border?
I don’t think that there is any legal provision for states to secede. There are constitutional processes to admit new states, but none that I am aware of to allow states to leave.
If a state declared its independence from Obama’s rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.
Reading the responses on SF Gate are hilarious. They think that CA would prosper if the union broke up? What complete tools. Do they think our govt would magically change? CA would continue their spending ways. Only difference would be that there would be no one to bail CA out when they finally go over the cliff.
I so want something to come out of this secession movement. Just to see CA sink into complete anarchy after they go over the cliff.
What kind of a name is Caille? (any guesses about the sexual orientation) Anyway, Caille, let me interpret all these petitions to you: they are a referendum on the legitimacy of the governing authority of the Obama Administration (hint = there is none). When you falsify elections, the people refuse to recognize your governing authority. Martial law is Obama’s only other option (but will the military support him? hmmmm....)
States did not post any petitions
If you want to secede you will have to do a real petition, on paper, and submitted to the state governments.
They can reform into: The Real United States.
Let those states that wish to leave secede from the United States
Without being too flippant, wasn't this decided in 1861-65, where the answer was that the side with the largest army got to make the succession rules?
“but I’m counting those knuckleheads only once.”
Mean spirited remarks have never fed even one hungry child.
The slave States are now the ones run by Democrats. The ones that have indebted their citizens and all others with Trillions of dollars of debt, abortion, loss of freedoms etc.
Secession is a bitter concept for a leftist.
The thing that rankles them most is that people will be escaping their fascist subjugation without being severely punished for it.
The second thing they fear is the exposure of the contrast between economic liberty and collectivism. Given the choice, the unproductive will choose to live off others, and the productive will chose liberty. They can’t survive with this choice available and they know it. That’s why they implement all their schemes at the federal level instead of in the states.
Well in that case:
Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
If a state declared its independence from Obamas rule, what would happen? That is uncharted territory.
Didn't Santayana say "Those who do not remember Lincoln are condemned to repeat him" ... or something like that?
Signing the petiton is just asking for a visit from the Feds.
Don’t be stupid. Don’t be a target.