Skip to comments.SanFran Chronicle: If they want to secede, let 'em
Posted on 11/14/2012 1:05:46 PM PST by TheWryFederalist
It's barely been a week since President Obama's re-election, and some people can't believe, truly can't believe, that things didn't go their way.
As of Wednesday morning, 37 states had posted petitions on the White House website to secede from the United States of America. (Some not-so-brilliant citizens of Georgia and South Carolina actually have two different secession postings each, but I'm counting those knuckleheads only once.)
I'm sorry to report that this not-so-illustrious group includes California, where nearly 7,000 citizens have signed a petition quoting the Declaration of Independence and insisting on the right to set up their own government.
This is clearly part of a movement to draft all the states, and Lord knows that there are certainly enough foolish people in each and every state in the union who would be willing to put their name on anything at all. But seeing as this country did fight the most bloody war in its history over the secession of the chattel slavery-holding states, it's sad to see that those are the same states that currently boast the most popular secession petitions.
Louisiana (around 30,000 signatures). Florida (about 24,000). South Carolina (around 28,000). Alabama (nearing the 23,000 mark). And last but never least, Texas, which rates as the state most likely to secede at more than 80,000 signatures.
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/article/If-they-want-to-secede-let-em-4035092.php#ixzz2CEQjDxxO
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Cute, but who’ll bail CA’s ass out when it hits the fiscal wall, genius?
You are not the only Idiot.
Is the sucessionist expression a faint precurser of a coming Social War?
After the Civil War, the Supreme Court held in Texas v. White (1869) that there is no constitutional right for a state to secede.
The question then comes down to who is willing to shoot first. Let's say Texas does issue articles of secession. Will Obama pull the US military out of the new Republic of Texas? How about the EPA, OSHA, NASA or a thousand other federal agencies? Essentially Obama would ignore secession until United States facilities started being forcibly taken over by Republic of Texas forces. Pretty soon you would have a Fort Sumter situation where the Texans would have to shoot to remove US forces. Then after dozens of US troops have been killed by the Republic of Texas, would the rest of the military call for retreat or attack against the rebels?
Perfect Newspeak! Petitions are in protest of Federal oppression vis-a-vis tax slavery, i.e. we work so Obama supporters can 'share' the product. But he reverses the roles, and infers that we protest because we want our slaves back. Satan is the father of lies and its amazing how well his socialist followers apply his talents.
“Many things that are absurd notions at one time have become inevitabilities.”
Just like the thought of Obama winning a second term. ;>)
Obama’s not the problem, he’s the symptom and the result.
The problem is a bloated government that maintains its power by giving out freebies to people who vote for more freebies.
If not secession, then a strong application of the 10th amendment is necessary to provide a place where these freebies are not given out so freely, nor are the productive citizens penalized in order to provide them.
The sorting process would then begin.
“Its an opening, a crack in the anti-secession cabal.”
I’m still waiting for someone, anyone, to propose a solution as to how you overcome, electorally, a majority now utterly dependent on government handouts and a political party determined to grow that majority to the greatest extent possible other than separation or surrender to it.
As I said, no one believes the Leviathan Moocher government will say have it your way and good luck to you.
It will take a precipitating catastrophic event.
like a financial collapse as some pretty smart money guys are saying is looming over the horizon.
When the USSR collapsed in the early 90s, its vassal states inside and outside of it declared their independence and the Kremlin was powerless to prevent it.
Secession petitions are a waste of time. The only way this can gain any momentum is for state legislatures to pass laws telling the fedgov to pound sand. We need an umbrella alliance of red states to organize and focus the effort. Get enough state legislatures to join the alliance and pass laws telling fedgov to shove it and maybe something can happen, but forget anything coming of it without action by state governments.
> Martial law is Obamas only other option (but will the military support him? hmmmm...
Such suppositions make one want to go out and buy a lot of popcorn.
Ignore their claim to authority until they try to use force to enforce their authority.
States did not post any petitions
If you want to secede you will have to do a real petition, on paper, and submitted to the state governments.
If the desire to secede widespread is its expression a statement by many of our fellow citizens that they can no longer live with the left?
Is the expression of the desire to secede a faint precursor of a coming Social War?
but Im counting those knuckleheads only once.
Mean spirited remarks have never fed even one hungry child.
You are absolutely correct about the bloated government, but that is precisely why it will never go for a strong application of the 10th Amendment. That only leaves secession.
It’s symbolic, but I’m having fun with it.